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TundraWookie
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posted March 06, 2012 03:22 PM
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If we have a coyote going west a blocker will come from either the south or north rd. and move in as a back up and to help keep the coyote moveing to the oringanal shooter on the west road or to turn the coyote back into the section for the stalkers.
How are you maintaining contact with gunners and blockers? Seems dangerous if you're within shouting distance.
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TA17Rem
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posted March 06, 2012 04:06 PM
2-way radios. They are legal here for coyotes if you have the permitts, we do... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
As of late some guys even use them on calling stands to talk with one another and let the other know there is an approaching coyote or two.. Each state is different though and a guy should check the laws to see if they are legal where they are...
Speaking of legal do you know its illegal to have big-game sounds on a E-caller in some states.
As a general rule most anyone can have them on there E-call just make sure you are not out calling coyotes when a big-game season is still open or a goose season..
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TA17Rem
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posted March 06, 2012 04:15 PM
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Thats pretty good Randy. So where do you fit in. I've seen you do the same from time to time...LOL
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Rich
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posted March 06, 2012 07:11 PM
"The only person dumber than the village idiot is the person who argues with him!"
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Right on Randy. The only way THAT guy could be any dumber is if he was twins. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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TundraWookie
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posted March 06, 2012 08:15 PM
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As of late some guys even use them on calling stands to talk with one another and let the other know there is an approaching coyote or two
What's up with guys calling the coyotes (or TWO) and you're not out there doing it in Your home state? Driving, bumping, running, gunning, and tackling the coyotes is more fun for the "crew" I guess.
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posted March 06, 2012 09:57 PM
What shot/load was that guy using to get so much blood? My shotgunned coyotes don't leak much until I start skinning.
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TA17Rem
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posted March 06, 2012 11:49 PM
At the time the load was either buckshot or dead coyote. He just uses buckshot now..
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What's up with guys calling the coyotes (or TWO) and you're not out there doing it in Your home state? Driving, bumping, running, gunning, and tackling the coyotes is more fun for the "crew" I guess.
I do it all wookie, calling and hunting..
None of the other guys do any calling. Not very productive here..Yeah its alot of fun no matter how you do it or get them as long as its legal...
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TA17Rem
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posted March 07, 2012 12:56 AM
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Tim thinks that we have forgotten his favorite coyote shotgun which is an old Ithaca pump. He don't know how it shoots because he has never patterned it.
Do you think I should???
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posted March 07, 2012 06:21 AM
As of late some guys even use them on calling stands to talk with one another and let the other know there is an approaching coyote or two..
Tim nothing new there with 2 ways and voice activated mics and ears buds, I have hunted with a few guys who used them in the early 90's. Hands free and only have to whisper to make them work.
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TOM64
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posted March 07, 2012 06:46 AM
TA "As of late some guys even use them on calling stands to talk with one another and let the other know there is an approaching coyote or two.."
TW "What's up with guys calling the coyotes (or TWO) and you're not out there doing it in Your home state?"
TA "I do it all wookie, calling and hunting..
None of the other guys do any calling. Not very productive here.."
So which is it tim?
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 08:34 AM
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I do it all wookie, calling and hunting..
I wouldn't exactly call driving and herding coyotes "hunting".
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Rich
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posted March 07, 2012 09:35 AM
"I wouldn't exactly call driving and herding coyotes "hunting"
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I don't either. Add the beer and four wheel drives, c.b. radios etc. is not at all sporting.
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TA17Rem
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posted March 07, 2012 10:38 AM
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I wouldn't exactly call driving and herding coyotes "hunting".
Its the oldest form of hunting known to man and was done before dogs where brought into use..
Anyway its just another way of getting them, if you don't like it too fucking bad...
I don't consider shooting coyotes with a shotgun very sporting either , but I don't go around bitching about it.. Useing a snowmachine like Wookie does is'nt very sporting also...
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 10:55 AM
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Useing a snowmachine like Wookie does is'nt very sporting also...
I don't herd and chase down animals with the machine, just get access to call. It would be the same as you use your truck when out calling. If you consider driving your vehicle to a stand to call not very sporting, better get out those hiking boots for the long walk west.
Call it what you want, I wouldn't call the Meenasota "Crew's" method "sporting" by any stretch of the imagination.
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posted March 07, 2012 11:05 AM
As an aspiring ground sluicer, I can't poo poo other legal methods. Damn, if TA likes to hunt coyotes like a southern deer drive, I could care less. There are plenty issues to jump him about, if you have a mind. I don't (personally) get it, but if these grown men "get off" on drives and ambushes, at least it keeps them away from the house, beating their wives.
(I can't believe I said that!)
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted March 07, 2012 11:31 AM
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I don't herd and chase down animals with the machine, just get access to call.
And we don't chase down coyotes with the truck, just drive them to a location to get a shot if a coyote happens to come in that direction...
A coyote runs or walks to a caller, same here they run or walk to where a shooter is stationed...
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 11:55 AM
I'm all for killing predators by any legal method allowed. Calling such strategies "hunting" is up for debate I guess. Alaska does not apply the word "hunting" to aerial shooting programs. They don't call the guy with the gun a hunter either, just a shooter. It's simply that....shooting.
Drive, herd, coral,...whatever you want to call it, I simply don't consider it to be "hunting". Keep on keepin' on boys.
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 12:15 PM
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I wouldn't exactly call driving and herding coyotes "hunting".
Its the oldest form of hunting known to man and was done before dogs where brought into use..
Anyway its just another way of getting them
You're not denying that you're driving animals in the above statement, just saying that it's the oldest form.
No false claims, just stating the obvious that you already post out there. It's fine if you and the "Crew" want to drive and herd coyotes to runners, gunners, blockers and tight ends, have at it. You're shooting a pushed animal, that's all. If you weren't out there walking the fields would those animals have naturally gone in the direction you wanted?
That snow looks like a walk in the park, I'd love to have hard packed snow like that to snowshoe in. Even with 40 inch snowshoes, expect to sink down a good 18 inches in the fluff here.
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posted March 07, 2012 12:20 PM
I've been known to herd mice and other vermin into a corner where I could stomp or whack them. Not very sporting and I certainly wouldn't call it hunting, but it accomplishes an end.
Some don't have the resources or skill set to call animals into shooting range so they come up with other methods to get the shot. If it's legal, and flips that person's switch, have at it. Might even be fun to do a time or two, but in the end, I'd get mote satisfaction out of outsmarting them rather than cornering them. That's just me though.
What's your call sign on the radio Tim? Maverick, Iceman, or Jester maybe?
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TA17Rem
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posted March 07, 2012 12:39 PM
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Might even be fun to do a time or two, but in the end, I'd get mote satisfaction out of outsmarting them rather than cornering them.
Try it sometime and let us all know how easey it is and don't forget a few pic.s of your results...
There is no cornering them, its all open country and they can run anywhere they like. Just have to be smart enough to stay one step ahead of them..
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 12:53 PM
So you have guys that can call them in, yet you choose to drive them? Speaks volumes about your calling ability on your home turf I guess.
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posted March 07, 2012 12:55 PM
Tim why don't you just try calling them in with that top of the line MA-21. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted March 07, 2012 01:03 PM
TundraW. say's
If you weren't out there walking the fields would those animals have naturally gone in the direction you wanted
so my question is to you, when you snowmobile into a spot, do you go back later to the same spot and find critters are using your trail from the past trip??. do you set snares/traps along any previous made trails??. call from the trais?? do some critters respond using old trail??
ai'nt taking any sides to your pissing match with Tim but from my gatherings, it seems you pick anything he posts apart and just find anything to hammer him on. this is one that really seems unjustified from my view.
i've done a few group pushes for coyotes and its anything but easy.
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TundraWookie
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posted March 07, 2012 01:25 PM
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so my question is to you, when you snowmobile into a spot, do you go back later to the same spot and find critters are using your trail from the past trip??
I've seen fresh tracks on trails I've been on before. These are typically established trails. I try not to break trail unless totally necessary to get to a point to call.
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do you set snares/traps along any previous made trails??. call from the trais?? do some critters respond using old trail??
I don't trap, but know many trappers who set trails. The animals want to naturally use the path of least resistance, which is typically a hard packed trail.I will usually pull the machine off the trail and setup off the trail to call. I don't see animals using their senses to travel as being the same thing as them being pushed to move in a specific direction by direct human pressure. If we could watch from the sky and see the route a coyote would have traveled before the "Crew" arrived, do you think it would be the same? I know the same argument could be asked about trails in the snow, however no direct pressure is put on those animals to use that trail.
Trying to compare a drive to calling like this statement is simply ridiculous and not even close to an apples to apples comparison.
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And we don't chase down coyotes with the truck, just drive them to a location to get a shot if a coyote happens to come in that direction...
A coyote runs or walks to a caller, same here they run or walk to where a shooter is stationed...
By that mentality pushing a coyote with a helicopter to a shooter would be the same thing as a coyote being called in? The logic to the above argument is just not there.
edit to add: I'm sure this type of shooting is not easy. I'd think being good at wing shooting would help with fast moving coyotes.
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