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knockemdown
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posted July 01, 2011 07:40 AM
I know you guys like this stuff, so have at it!!!
IS commenting on this video cop bashing???
WOWeeewow!!!
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Leonard
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posted July 01, 2011 08:32 AM
Man, no wonder our legal panel quit! How can they defend shit like this?
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 09:09 AM
"Man, no wonder our legal panel quit! How can they defend shit like this?"
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Shit like what? All the driver had to do was sign his ticket and he could have driven on down the road. It is common policy in most states to require drivers to sign the ticket. To refuse means a trip to jail where you must pay your bond before release. Pretty dang good Police work displayed in that video.
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TOM64
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posted July 01, 2011 09:13 AM
I can only hope they showed the video in court and fired the stupid lying cop and then awarded the guy and his wife a ton of money including the guys retirement checks.
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TOM64
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posted July 01, 2011 09:17 AM
So Rich, how fast was he going? The officer didn't know and couldn't say. Then he searches the vehicle without consent or even asking for consent, it was "something he had to do" piss poor police work and a bogus charge. Did you miss the 40 mph speed limit sign?
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knockemdown
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posted July 01, 2011 09:18 AM
Read the comments below the video, guys.
Mr. Rich, in Utah, there is NO law requiring a driver to sign a traffic ticket. Some states, yes, but not applicable in this instance.
Also, he was awarded $40,000 for ridin' the Taser lightnin'. Peanuts, if ya ask me...
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 09:39 AM
"Also, he was awarded $40,000 for ridin' the Taser lightnin'."
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Sometimes it is easier for the state to pay damages than go to Court. I don't like Taser guns--never did and never will. I don't know Utah law, but around here it is the Officer's discretion as to allowing the driver to take the ticket and drive away or place him under arrest. As for the search of the car, it was legal. It is called the "hand span" rule.
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Leonard
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posted July 01, 2011 10:15 AM
Well, to me and my opinionated opinions, this looked totally chickenshit, from start to finish. That little NAZI needs to be fired.
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JD
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posted July 01, 2011 11:38 AM
There's a lesson here for all of us.....NEVER disagree with a Nazi....just nod and smile and agree with whatever they say the law is.
Actually that Nazi seemed pretty decent as Nazis go.....after all he didn't put the boots to the guys wife when she started protesting.
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Leonard
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posted July 01, 2011 01:08 PM
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NEVER disagree with a Nazi....just nod and smile and agree with whatever they say...... JD
Seems reasonable, at first blush. But, I remember a case in NYC where a black man had a night stick shoved up his anal cavity by a couple of New York's finest. So, you suggest it's better to grit your teeth, smile, thank the officer and maybe request another dose of compliance?
If I had the means and the opportunity, and I was the dude in the video, I would be tempted to kill the son of a bitch and claim self defense.
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 01:38 PM
I have known ever since the first video camera's were installed in those Police cruisers that is was a very large mistake. There are several people on these boards that have no clue about the dangers lurking out there for our Policemen. I have been there and done that. Sure there are bad guys out there wearing badge's, but they are the minority. the so called "victim" in that video was a loud mouthed, non-compliant asshole who deserved to go to jail. I would have never used a taser on anyone back in the day, not even if they had existed. Times have changed since then, and mostly for the worse.
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DanS
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posted July 01, 2011 01:38 PM
The sad thing is some cops will defend this piece of crap, or "Turd".
I wonder how Mr. Policeman would feel if he didn't jump when one of his superiors told him to do something and he was tasered?
What a dirtbag. Maybe Karma will come back and get this little nazi puke. Hopefully he will get pulled over, out of state, by another storm-trooper, and get treated as fairly as he treated this man. Hope he empyies his bowels when it happens too.
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If I had the means and the opportunity, and I was the dude in the video, I would be tempted to kill the son of a bitch and claim self defense.
I thought the same thing. Only he will get rewarded for criminal behavior, you or I wouldn't.
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 01:45 PM
DanS,
We had guys like you out there back in the 1970's too. When they got stabbed, had their legs broke, teeth kicked in or something, guess who they always called to come help them.. The Police of course. I well remember one of our worst dirt bags lying on a bar room floor in a very large pool of blood. I remember his words "I don't wanna die". It ain't purdy out there in the real world Dan, I hope that you never find that out the hard way.
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DanS
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posted July 01, 2011 02:04 PM
Rich,
Guys like me? What kind of guy is that? One that doesn't like abusive people? Lying authority figures, and thieves?
I always thought I lived in the real world, whether it be my time in Korea, Japan, Phillipines, or multiple states on both coast and in flyover states like Missouri.
I'm not much of a "hang out in the Bars" type person. Though I have spent more than my share of time in one during my youth.
Never had my teeth kicked in, or legs broken. Never called the police to come help me after a fight either.
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csmithers
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posted July 01, 2011 02:30 PM
No reason to call the cops. EVER. Fire department responds quicker.
I'm sure the guy in his own blood didn't call the cops. Someone else called for him. And I bet the cops never arrested a suspect so when he was well enough, he did what most right thinking Americans do and handed out some well-deserved vigilante justice.
If the cop in the video was RIGHT, then the "non-compliant loudmouth" would have never been rewarded a settlement. Cops...
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 02:36 PM
"Guys like me? What kind of guy is that?"
The kind of guy who would say this-----
"What a dirtbag. Maybe Karma will come back and get this little nazi puke. Hopefully he will get pulled over, out of state, by another storm-trooper, and get treated as fairly as he treated this man. Hope he empyies his bowels when it happens too."
I watched the video Dan. All the so called "victim" had to do was sign the dang ticket and nothing bad would have happened to him. Not such a hard thing to do.
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DanS
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posted July 01, 2011 02:53 PM
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I watched the video Dan. All the so called "victim" had to do was sign the dang ticket and nothing bad would have happened to him. Not such a hard thing to do.
How about, all the so called "Cop" had to do was write, recipient refused to sign citation, issued the ticket, and allowed the guy to be on his way.
Maybe that is too hard of a thing to do for some LEO's, but then he wouldn't have been justified in using the power of electricity. Making this man submit to his uncalled for commands. Well actually this cops bad judgement and hard handedness cost them $40,000.
BTW, why should the cop be afraid of being treated as fairly as he treated this guy? If he treated him correctly as you said?
I am a big believer in "what goes around comes around". Maybe that is why so many people, are not so trusting of cops. Karma can be a bitch!
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JD
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posted July 01, 2011 03:14 PM
I don't know Rich but it seems to me that if the risks of the job are so great that you have to tazer someone over a questionable speeding ticket, maybe you should find a career in something other than law enforcement, just a thought, it IS after all how the rest of the "real world" handles life and our careers.
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 06:00 PM
JD,
I have already stated that I don't like Taser's, would never use one on anybody and that I think that Taser's are a bad idea. There are in fact some bad Cop's running around out there, but I don't see the Officer in the video as being one of them. He obviously was issued a taser gun and trained how to use it. He also had one of those silly video camera's in his cruiser, and that is also a bad idea in my opinion.
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csmithers
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posted July 01, 2011 06:36 PM
This is the EXACT REASON there SHOULD BE a dash cam in EVERY police cruiser in the US of A! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
BECAUSE if there was no dash cam! The entire strory would be different. The tasered guy's word against the officer. And... We all know what that would have turned out like.
And another thing. Sometimes calling the cops is like going into the hospital to have a plantars wart removed and getting a leg amputated instead. How many times have you heard of a mom, a dad, a neighbor calling the police because someone is acting crazy? They just want the police to come in and "keep the peace" but someone ends up shot 12 times because they wouldn't put down the garden rake!
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Leonard
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posted July 01, 2011 06:47 PM
Tasered because he wouldn't sign a citation? The NAZI said that he thought the man was running away and that's why he did it. He's handcuffed....... and he was going to run away from his wife and his vehicle? Pulled over for speeding? Damn, man! He wasn't a bank robber!
Here's my opinion. A citizen has the right to dispute a traffic stop, right then. Is the only option to meekly sign it and thank the officer for his trouble, then miss a day of work to appear in court?
Since when can't a motorist disagree and dispute a violation? It may not get him anywhere, but I would think he can voice his displeasure at the stop and the so called violation.
And Rich. I know where you are coming from, I know the brotherhood and all that. But, did this guy look like a dirt bag? He was just driving along, minding his own business and winds up tasered and arrested? Does this really seem reasonable?
Okay, I know the signature on the ticket is a promise to appear and not an admission of guilt. But, refusing to sign a ticket is grounds for handcuffs and getting the shit knocked out of him with that taser? It sure looks like an abuse of power, to me?
I know they claim that if you don't sign it, that theoretically, they can haul your ass before a magistrate, right now but how often does that happen? And, in the case of a refusal, do the majority of agencies arrest the offender, on the spot, or is there a more calm, reasonable solution? Such as explaining to the man the ramifications, should he refuse to sign the ticket?
I don't know, I'm trying to understand how the man has a job to do and all that, but I don't see the justification for what he did?
You have to consider that ultimately, it will be a jury of ordinary citizens that will decide if excess force was used; not all his buddies down at the station.
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Cdog911
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posted July 01, 2011 07:09 PM
Tasers were invented because it looked bad to just shoot people for no reason. Well, no good reason.
I remember in one of my first training meetings, one of the guys in the group had asked for permission to carry a stick. The Sheriff showed up with his stick, and a department issued jar of petroleum jelly to go with it. When the guy asked what the jelly was for, the Sheriff told him straight up, "Because when someone thinks they'll accomplish more with a night stick than they can with people skills, chances are you'll tend to be the first to use one, And, chances are, somewhere, someday, someone will take your stick from you and shove it up your ass. The jelly will make it hurt less." LOL His request was withdrawn.
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posted July 01, 2011 07:15 PM
Lol. That's a goodun, Cdog.
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Rich
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posted July 01, 2011 08:43 PM
"And Rich. I know where you are coming from, I know the brotherhood and all that. But, did this guy look like a dirt bag? He was just driving along, minding his own business and winds up tasered and arrested? Does this really seem reasonable?"
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Leonard,
The guy didn't look like a dirt bag until he opened his mouth. Everything went down hill from there. The Officer started out nice, and only used force when necessary. He obviously was new to Police work or he would have secured the man in back seat of his cruiser immediately after the cuffs were on. I was worried about the Officer's safety because that woman could well have came out of the car with a gun. In this case it appeared that the Officer was out there alone until the scene was pretty much secured. It is extremely dangerous out there Leonard. I am going to stop posting in these anti-cop threads because I see both sides while several guys here only see things from ONE side of things. That fact is because they have never walked the Walk of a Law Man.
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Leonard
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posted July 01, 2011 10:04 PM
All I know is the police serve the public and are 100% volunteers.
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