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Leonard
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posted November 07, 2025 02:05 PM
I have watched a lot of these and they are all good, but this one seems useful for those that wander in Grizzly country, and of course moose, too. Personally, I’ve yet to see a moose, never been to Alaska. Actually, I never had a strong desire to get up there. Even those Alaskan Cruises. Talk about BORING! So you want to dress up to go out on deck and look at the Killer Whale's. Kinda Ho Hum, for this kid, but I know some are thrilled. BFD. Wandering off topic, sorry.
Anyway Tim Sundless, forget how he spells his name but he has damned good advice and he is a gun nut of the first order. He has vast experience in the woods, the western and northern woods. And his experience shows. His advice is better than good, it’s excellent, and near as I can tell, flawless.
He has so many wrist busting large caliber handguns, I bet he doesn’t know the exact number? One thing I liked about him is that he likes and uses a 25’06, a rifle caliber that I’ve always fancied. Of course, I always favor the Ackley Improved version, but any 25 ‘06 chambered rifle is very cool, as is the 270 Winchester, which was my very first centerfire rifle, that I owned. I shot ‘06 in the Army, but until I got out and bought a real rifle, all I ever owned was rimfire 22’s. Anyway.
So, if you watch a few of his videos, you quickly learn that he has a lot of money tied up in firearms, both rifles and handguns. And he uses them, he’s not just a collector. His videos are very informative and authoritative, he knows what he is talking about. His wife is a fine looking woman with intelligence, BTW. Neither here nor there, but she’s an asset and knowledgable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__dTNClr40A
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 07, 2025 03:46 PM
WHAT ???? ............ No .41 Mag ???? The Shade of the great Elmer Keith must be weeping over this omission. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Actually, a pretty good video. The guy seems to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
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posted November 07, 2025 07:47 PM
Yeah, not there because it’s not enough gun for grizzly bear, in his opinion. He doesn’t think my Red Hawk 44Mag is enough. And I have a hundred rounds of new brass just sitting, already primed, I just have not ordered the hard cast bullets yet. Not that I’m ready for Alaska, but if I go, that’s one detail I won’t need to worry about.
And besides, it’s 71/2” and I have a couple holsters that will work, but it’s not quick to draw, ya know? So it’s not ideal but 5 center hits from a cool shooter is the best I can do. And the buddy I bought it from had it while he was up the 40 mile river. Oh, and that’s where he FOUND a 41mag in that river and asking around, was able to return it to the guy that lost it. Far as I know, it’s a true story.
But anyway, my RedHawks has spent a few years in remote parts of Alaska. However, Vic said he really preferred to carry his cheap Model 500 Mossberg with slugs. And said most of the other locals did the same.
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
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posted November 07, 2025 09:19 PM
Something that I don't see a lot of ink on is the shooter's mind-set...... Grizzly Bear or back alley self-defense;
Take a shot with a hand cannon and see what happens or fire something 'substandard' center of mass until the gun goes 'click'.
If ya got reason enough to shoot once, ya got reason enough to shoot 'em all.
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posted November 08, 2025 12:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZFg0JfYcZI
above is moderately interesting. Try it. But, a hundred elk is a bunch.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 08, 2025 06:39 AM
I understand what the guy is saying and in principle, agree with most of it.
However ........ He's treading on some really thin legal ice, damn near to the point of taunting Game & Fish. Never a good idea.
Like Granpa used to say; "The fish would'nd got caught if it had kept it's mouth shut".
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posted November 09, 2025 08:35 AM
Good morning, Peanut Gallery!
Ko Ko,just thought of something Buffalo Bore said, that seems particularly valid. Talking about salvaging rib meat and not considering that it’s worth the effort, then getting busted by overzealous game cops. There is no doubt that they will hammer a hunter with little regard for practicality. They seldom give you a break on fish measurements, either. When you don’t have a tape measure but they do, of course. And I remember one year with maybe 20 guys, lots of dove flying at a peak time and here comes this guy with a home made device to measure your shell capacity! That shell restriction was probably written for a 100 years ago to detour market hunters. But to write up some guy that forgot to replace a plug while coyote hunting seems kinda chickenshit. Anyway, My view of game wardens runs to the negative side based on actual harassment experience.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: I also remember one time California fish and game was searching a friend’s truck….just because he could, and was 3/4 of the way confiscating a couple bobcat that were not in season. But Lyle said wait a minute! then he produced his AZ license and his border declaration! The chastised warden put them back in the truck.
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posted November 09, 2025 09:51 AM
Hell .......... I had a warden once tell me that a shotgun had to be plugged to hunt coyotes.
Fortunately, I was using an O/U that day but still ......... Ya got an unplugged shottie full of #4 Buck, ya bust a covey of quail on the way out and do a practice swing on them, warden see you and it's "You're in a heap o' trouble, boy !!!"
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posted November 10, 2025 09:15 AM
Richard, do you even own a shotgun? Have you ever bought a box of #4Buck? Perhaps in your Washington days or when you were San Fernando Red? Before your immigration/migration! I should spill the beans, around town; you ain’t a real native Arizonan, Bucko!
I’m jest funnin’ y’all! Take care, keep yer powder dry! hey, you ever tried metal detecting? I bet you could find some spent #4Buck, maybe some old lead bullets, before the Ban.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 10, 2025 10:18 AM
Well ......... I have my first love, a 20 Ga. single shot Ithaca. Killed my first deer with that gun back about '68. Distance measured in feet, not yards.
Since I really suck at wing shooting, my other shotties are coyote dedicated. An O/U and a Pump, both 12 Ga.
Also in the stable is a real beast; Savage .223 / 12 Ga. O/U with a 1.5 to 4 power scope. It's butt ugly but for cold calling in unknown cover it's proven it's worth more than once. I have a .22 adapter for the .223 barrel so this thing will do a whole lot of stuff, just not any one thing great.
Copper plated lead BB is the load of choice thru XX Full choke.
Can't remember the last time I fired any of them.
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posted November 10, 2025 10:22 AM
Yes, metal detecting can be awesome. There's stuff out in that desert that needs to be found.
Some places, like around Fort Bowie, it's actually illegal to use a detector.
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posted November 10, 2025 12:36 PM
Is that right? Why would it be illegal to use a metal detector around Fort Bowie? Although I can maybe understand it while thinking of Custer’s Last Stand.
And this is another of my pet peeves. They will let some University cocksucker collect artifacts everywhere, but for citizens, it’s illegal and they will take it away from you, popularly known as confiscation. I have found artifacts in the desert, every one on public lands while hunting. I just stick these things in my pocket, don’t document any of it, therefore I don’t remember where I picked it up, but when I see things that seen out of place, I pay attention. I think I have three or four scrapers, stumbled on in usually either Arizona or Nevada, and they look the same, for the same use and hundreds of miles different and yet they appear to have the same usage. Four inches long, triangular worked granite and all I know is that I picked them up hundreds of miles apart and over many years of wandering with a rifle.
I’ve also stumbled on what you might call quarries, Places where someone spent considerable time chipping and shaping artifacts and implements and all the evidence of an industry, shaping similar stone, one time jasper, another place obsidian and another place on Hopi land, granite pebbles chipped into rough skinning and scraping tools shaped by ancient man for a specific (what’s it called? “FIELD EXPEDIENT” would be a military description, then discarded, as they can make more, easily enough, someplace else.
It’s just fascinating to stumble upon this evidence of man, hundreds or thousands of years earlier, same place, and probably hunting, just as I but in their case, living off the land. These were hard people, if not they wouldn’t survive. Lots of evidence just laying around, waiting for me to stumble on it, It’s humbling and fascinating.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 10, 2025 01:44 PM
Somewhere in my pile of VHS artifacts I have a tape of a re-enactor making a spearpoint with a hammerstone. There's a dead calf to represent the 'kill' to be butchered. The spearpoint is modified with the hammerstone for heavy duty cutting and the small flakes (razor sharp) set aside for fine slicing. With the meat drying on jerky racks the point is again modified for use as a scraper for the hide. That done, what was the point was then fashioned into a knife and hafted, again by percussion flaking with a hammer stone.
The guy made it all look so easy. ........... Believe me, it ain't !!!
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posted November 10, 2025 10:53 PM
I’m sure you are right. As I understand, there are a few methods. Like pressure flaking with antler. I think I saw a You Tube video once of a guy that made some elaborate stuff and now I don’t remember what it was called, but very expertly done. So I guess a fella can learn it with enough determination. I only have one obsidian point and it’s small enough that it could have been an arrowhead. The thing is, many you think of as “arrowheads” are way too heavy that shooting them with a bow is not possible. Think maybe less than 3/4” and they are so delicate, they will probably shatter if they hit anything besides flesh. Primitive bows were not very strong. From what I’ve seen they would pull them back from the hip and let go immediately, nothing like modern, or even Midevil archers. I could be wrong but I’ve seen a few demonstrations of specific Comanche and Sioux types. You probably know more about that than I do?
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 11, 2025 08:16 AM
Ok ................ This got me curious. Went out and weighed some stone heads on the Grain scale.
Had to estimate the total weight of a couple of broken ones. Interesting results.
The smaller heads that would seem to be the proper shooting size were between 126 and 202 Grains.
Larger heads that seem more like lance points were anywhere from 420 to 600 Grains. In my mind, awfully heavy to be shooting out of a simple self-bow.
My own set-up is 180 Grains, point, adapter & insert for a 14% Forward of Center balance point.
'Assuming' that these larger points are actually arrow points they would give an extreme F.O.C. which, ironically is currently in vouge with some of the Traditional shooters.
The next time I'm in Globe I'll stop in the Besh Ba Gowah Park and ask some questions. Should be an interesting conversation.
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posted November 11, 2025 10:41 AM
koko, Have you ever heard that many, or at least some of the tribes used two part arrows? As I understand, the rear was substantial length of wood from a branch or twig. The front would be of reed with a point and jammed onto the wood section. The problem, before fletching became popular was that a uni type stick would be far too heavy for true flight, they would nose over instead of sailing straight. This technology was hundreds of years in development. What we see in the movies, the learned scout would examine an intact shaft briefly and announce the name of the tribe that used this arrow based on some markings that made them distinctive from every other tribe. Possibly BS.
While some of it may be due to the availability of certain types of trees or bushes, (for shafts) It seems to me that these people could be sworn enemies and trading partners at the same time. Like, a tribe that had never seen a white man might have a trade tomahawk that he got in exchange for furs or beads, since they loved their ornamentation. Or blankets. Other than Navajo, I doubt many of them were weaving their own Egyptian cotton sheets and pillow cases.
Another interesting commodity was Teepee poles. I have heard that the closest location for Lodgepole pine was in Minnesota, since that’s where the Sioux came from originally. But when you think about it, they were setting up Teepees a thousand miles from Minnesota. Other tribes like apache made a wiki up by bending branches into a hut and maybe throwing skins over the top.
One device I always thought was clever as hell was to take nicely shaped war club head and jambing it into a branch of a tree and leaving it for the branch to grow around it next year and then harvesting a nice hafted weapon. So that’s a type of long range planning you don’t see much of today.
All of these territories were as flexible as their ability to defend the land. Once they burned all the firewood in some place they kinda had to move on, if they wanted to be warm next year, but that doesn’t mean that they can claim a thousand miles of prairie as ancestral hunting grounds. Easy to claim but difficult to defend and that’s where the rubber meets the road.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 11, 2025 12:55 PM
The two part projectile goes back to the days of the Atlatl. A 'Dart' about 5 feet long with a hardwood foreshaft & stone point. Big and heavy for the momentum needed to penetrate the Ice Age Mega-Fauna. When a hit was made the foreshaft would break or come loose and the main shaft could be reused with a new foreshaft & sharp point. Much easier to carry a few short foreshafts than a quiver full of 5 foot long Darts.
Sooooo ..... With the mass extinction of most of the Mega-Fauna aprox. 40,000 years ago the Atlatl was no longer practical for hunting. Too much motion to throw needed to be stealthy.
Enter the bow and arrow.
In many tribes the two piece Atlatl Dart became a two piece arrow. The arrow shaft made of a light reed material fitted with a hardwood foreshaft & stone point. Most arrows break right behind the point so the foreshaft could be replaced, salvaging the rest of the arrow. If you've ever thrown a long branch, you likely threw the thick, heavy end to the front. Just works better that way & is the weight Foreward Of Center concept. Primitive man may have been primitive but he was in many ways clever. His arrows were balanced F.O.C. and with feathers to the rear (Birds fly so feathers on the arrow will make them fly also, Yes ?? ) He had a working system to fill his needs.
Different tribes had different styles of equipment and ways of shooting. Ishi (Google him) shot with the bow horizontal and released with his thumb. Very unique style.
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posted November 11, 2025 02:38 PM
The book about him is pretty good reading and very interesting. Especially for anyone that uses a bow.
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posted November 11, 2025 02:48 PM
You know knapping arrowheads or points or whatever isn't real hard but does take a little time to get familiar with the rock or glass . The late wife and I, when we ere out hunting and exploring,would pick up broken bottles or just chert chips and knock em out sitting around camp and would leave them in obvious places a kid might be nosing around. Camps in places like Desert Creek or some places up north that get frequented by people on the weekends etc.
Whenever we went back by them you could guarantee those points were gone.
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posted November 11, 2025 03:00 PM
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Yeah, the Anthropologists and the Archaeologists hate you doing that as much as the kids who find them love it.
Probably illegal on Public Land though. The eggheads really hate knappers and think that they are the only ones to be allowed to even touch an artifact.
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posted November 11, 2025 03:46 PM
OK Walt, I wonder how many of your points I have upstairs with other artifacts?
You know a place where I used to find interesting points and other worked stone and jasper. Around telephone poles along the highway. The stuff dug up around the hole, after years of rain etc. I used to find nice agate and other pieces of almost gem quality chert jasper and other gem quality glassy stone. Around the loneliest highway in America Hwy50, lots of good gem quality rock, you know for tumbling etc.
There is a lot of stuff laying around, all you have to do is keep your eyes open.
There will be a lot of this stuff on the quiz, so pay attention!
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 14, 2025 06:47 PM
Got a new AR barrel on the way and nephew picked up a suppressor. I'll wait for mine after first of the year and price for dam thing be around 800.00..
Due to lack of snow around here most of the traditional hunters have not been after coyotes too hard in last 3 years and you can tell as the coyote numbers are getting up there. Should be a good year if we don't get snow again.
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posted November 14, 2025 08:59 PM
I’m just not convinced. First of all, my hearing has been shot since my Army days. Second, does that contraption interfere with the barrel harmonics? Don’t try and tell me your accuracy’s still the same.
I just don’t know? Here’s the thing. You can buy a Glock 19 for less than $500. But a fucking suppressor, as simple as it is and yet they START at $800 and the fancier ones, you’re looking at $1200.
Again, you can buy a real nice S&W 44Mag for $1200. Compare the engineering and the tooling that goes into that nice shooting handgun: then lay a $1200 surppressor next to it and start pondering relative WORTH!
I’m saying you boys are being fleeced! Those gadgets might be actual worth maybe $250, in my judgement.
I don’t know? Seems like a bit of a scam? Yeah, I “might” probably get one, one of these days; when they are priced honestly!
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 15, 2025 03:29 AM
Yeah, ya gotta wonder how much of the high $$$ cost of a suppressor is to lawyer proof liability on the things. Somewhere, somehow, someone will find a way to hurt themselves or others with one. And then sue.
Let's face it ....... any half-way competent Millwright / Machinist with access to a decent lathe should be able to turn one out in a long afternoon. The engineering is not that complicated.
In my mis-spent youth there were even rumors of nere-do-wells making them out of oil filters, but I have no direct knowledge of that.
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posted November 15, 2025 05:28 AM
think it falls under pay to play type deal. I'll be getting mine without having to pay for tax stamp. I suppose I could build one but have to pay triple the price just for equipment to make it. Is a lic. needed to build them?
Nephew got his to play with we can mount it on any gun with threaded barrel, see how it goes, maybe I'll change my mind at end of year.
Yes I agree Leonard they are little over priced. Have you looked at prices of a new pick up these days? A few guys around here are just getting their pick-ups restored rather than buy new.
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