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Leonard
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posted November 24, 2025 01:16 AM
Reading the last couple of testimonials, I get the impression that some peeps have a more profound experience with silencers than I have myself experienced. My understanding of the effect of a silencer is a 140-165db unsupressed to in the neighborhood of 125db, approximately. This is not like the movies, a “pift” sound, it’s still a noticeable gunshot!
Suppressors reduce a gunshot to maybe the effect when you are in the pit pulling targets a hundred yards away from the benches. They only reduce the noise, they don’t make it go away!
IDk? 125db is still loud. It’s not like; Wait a minute, Melvin! Did you just take a shot, or did you sneeze, a minute ago? lol 😂
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
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Kokopelli
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posted November 24, 2025 06:31 AM
It would be my luck that I would get lost and the search party wouldn't hear the shots from my suppressed rifle. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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UTcaller
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posted November 24, 2025 09:51 AM
Maybe that’s why the 2nd Coyote gives the “what the hell just happened to my partner” look right before I shoot him too.😂
Good Hunting Chad
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TA17Rem
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posted November 24, 2025 04:27 PM
Chad with suppressor do you have to change or tailor your loads for it? Also going from 224. cal to 30 cal. suppressor whats difference or does it stay same noise wise?? [ November 24, 2025, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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UTcaller
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posted November 24, 2025 04:47 PM
Tim, My load is exactly the same as when I was shooting unsuppressed. Only difference is I was shooting a 26” barrel and was getting 3800 fps. When I got the Suppressor I cut 5” off the barrel and threaded it. It now runs about 3650 fps. But accuracy is a bit better. They say when you use a larger caliber suppressor with the smaller caliber rifle it is a little louder, by how much I don’t know. I wouldn’t think it would be much though.
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R.Shaw
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posted November 24, 2025 07:27 PM
Just to add to what Chad said.
If your load is really close to hot, when you add the silencer it will be too hot. I worked up a load a little on the hot side and had to reduce .3 to .5 in order to not have any signs of pressure. Velocity remained close to the same.
My accuracy also improved, however that might be attributed to the fact that a person starts shooting a lot more relaxed when you are not subconsciously bracing for impact.
The best sounding silencer is caliber specific. If you shoot a .224 thru a 30 caliber can, the actual loudness is close to the same, but the tone is much different. The 223/556 cans available today are mostly tailored towards the ar. For the most part this means shorter (less volume) with reduced back pressure so the firearm will cycle. Both these characteristics tend to make them louder.
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Leonard
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posted November 25, 2025 10:03 AM
So, if you are choking down hot varmint caliber, say 22-250, is there an advantage to getting one rated for auto fire? Maybe I’m just too complicating the process?
Anyway, you want to standardize the thread pitch on the adapter, as much as possible and then to make your “can” universal and able to be used on everything you have.
I want to know what covers the most “ground” for instance, if you buy the can made specifically for coyote cartridges, can you use it effectively on your deer rifle?
Or, if you think you can cover more applications by buying the suppressor rated for 30 caliber Magnums, will if be moderately effective on a 243?
I’m just trying to figure out if there is a reason for tailoring your purchase to a specific rifle, and what is it that makes one more servicable, universally?
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TA17Rem
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posted November 25, 2025 11:20 AM
Nephew showed up today with his can, his is 30 cal. and mounted on an AR with 24" barrel. I wanted to shoot it in town, but he wouldn't let me. LOL
He says it pretty sweet as far as being quiet.
I have a 204 bolt gun threaded, 22=-250 Bugara, and my custom AR in 224 Valkrie. Plan to get 22-250 ackley threaded later. I don't plan on cutting any barrel lengths either. I dont plan on shooting any bigger cal. than 224 and may try it on a 17 center fire later.
so which one should I get 224 or 30 cal., 7"? Do I need one with muzzle brake as well? I have not decided on a brand yet but don't want a cheep one or a high dollar one, try meet in middle on price. I plan to go through Scheels store as they handle all the paper work so may have to choose on what brands they have. thoughts/input on matter..
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UTcaller
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posted November 25, 2025 12:28 PM
When I bought my can in 2017. I kept hearing that if you want the best suppression go with the caliber closest to what you shoot. So I went with a Thunderbeast ultra 7” .224 caliber suppressor because I thought I would mainly be shooting it with my .22-250 Ackley, .222 Remington, .204 Ruger,.17 Tactical and .17 Ackley Hornet. And they are all threaded =1/2-28.
But after seeing a few other people getting the .30 caliber suppressors I wish I would have gone that route. Then I could have used the one Suppressor with all the ones I mentioned but I could have also used it with my (2) 6mm Remingtons and my .270 Winchester and I would have had all my rifles threaded=5/8-24 and had a 1 can fits all deal.
I’m sure it’s not perfect but it would have been fine and not broke the bank buying multiple suppressors. [ November 25, 2025, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]
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TA17Rem
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posted November 25, 2025 04:50 PM
Thanks Chad.
I talked to O'Neal opps few years back on it, don't remember brand but he was big pro-staff for it I think his gun smith builds them or something. He went on to tell me his brand was the quietest on the market according to the sound readings they did on it, splitting hairs here. He said they used best sound meter there is to check it and others and bla bla bla. He didn't know at time I'm familiar with sound meter and how it works and what those numbers mean. Sure he may have been right about being the quietest but those little numbers he gave me of others didn't make a whole lot of difference, just splitting hairs and trying to blow smoke up people asses to make sales. and his brand was pretty spendy at time.
Well, I decided to fuck the tax stamp deal and decided to pay it. Got suppressor picked out and just starting the paperwork, also got a quick attach for it so it's easier on threads if I switch back and forth. I think the model I got is 5.5 inches in length. also found out its the same as Nephews but mine is 224 cal. and his is 30 cal.
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UTcaller
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posted November 25, 2025 05:21 PM
Good deal I’m sure you’ll like shooting suppressed, I’m yet to hear someone say they regretted it….😁
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TA17Rem
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posted November 25, 2025 05:40 PM
I can't hear anyway! LOL I'm now logged into ATF, purpose of that is to speed up the process of getting it all done. Back to store and fill out rest of the papers tomorrow.
I looked at few suppressors and since I'll be also using it on a AR I needed to get one with a flow through system. (excess gas dumps out the front rather than blow back) I have a adjuster on my Gas block on AR as well so good there. Brand is a Huxwrx, Flow 556K.. (Leonard probably pulling hair out about now) ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Leonard
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posted November 25, 2025 10:04 PM
I am so unmotivated it’s pathetic. When TA makes up his mind, it’s explosive 🧨 and a $200 tax is but a trifle! Why wait, as Elon might say? Forget the universal suppressor, Dude! A discriminating gentleman such as yourself needs custom Tailored suppressors for every friggin’ gun in the arsenal. When ya got it, ya otter flaunt it!
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
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TA17Rem
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posted November 26, 2025 07:47 AM
couple funny things happen at scheels store. They have a display case full of different suppressors with a little card in front that kind of explains type of suppressor and also the price and quick run off of its application. Salesman comes over so i pick his brain little farther on suppressors and gave him idea of what i wanted. I got a little scared at this point as the salesman thought a 223 was a smaller caliber than a 224 Valkrie so then i would have to go to a 30 cal. suppressor. I cleared him up on that or schooled him you might say. So we got the caliber figured out so he points at 3 of the high dollar suppressors. LOL I told him i want one in the middle on price. LOL
I got registered with the ATF last night from home on my computer as this will speed up the process of getting that stupid stamp/approval. Once logged in on ATF site they said they made some changes which start today to also speed up the process so we will see how long it takes to get approved. I'm also registered as a silent killer once I'm approved. LOL It can take little as 3 days or 3 month's.
Oh! My reason for getting a suppressor. Cause Shaw and Chad have one. how's that? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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UTcaller
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posted November 26, 2025 11:28 AM
And like Randy said, the only thing that I had to get used to was the anticipation of the loud boom and more recoil of shooting unsupprressed that didn’t happen when the shot went off shooting suppressed. I think they told me when I bought mine it would have like 50% less recoil. And it seems right from what I’ve seen.
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Leonard
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posted November 26, 2025 03:03 PM
I was not aware of what a brutal experience is for some of the Peanut Gallery? Just to discharge a weapon?
I’ve said repeatedly, that my hearing has been damaged since I was in the Army, and I had already served my 3 years and separated before I could legally buy a beer, or vote. Now, they fucked up and allowed 18 year olds the privilege. This is a serious mistake!
18 year olds are motivated by things that do not apply to adults. They might worry about a car payment, or getting laid, or having enough gas to get them through until next payday. Think about the silly things that you worried about when you were 18. It’s even worse now!
They are still on their parents car insurance until they are 26. I’m not sure about this, but it used to be that kids couldn’t sign a contract until they are 21 years old. Maybe they need a co-signer? I’m not up on the legal status, but a kid will vote for a president of he promises free beer. They do not worry about rent or car pmts. Usually, they are being supported 100% by their parents and they live at home and they abide by rules that their parents issue and enforce. 18 year olds don’t pay rent, their parents bought them a car and pay to keep the lights on. They are members under the parents smart phone plan, so they probably pay nothing and don’t contribute to the mortgage.
So what do kids worry about? Getting laid and getting beer and gas money from their parents. They always think they are so very educated, even going to college, (paid by mom and dad)
In short, they have no worries that an adult has, but some smart politician started with a slogan: Hey if they can carry a gun and fight, and die for their country, they aught to be able to vote! Yeah right! It defies logic, but now they vote and they will vote for reasons that responsible adults would never consider. In fact, I don’t remember what the hell motivated me at 18, but my perspective is way different today than when I had just barely graduated from high school.
IT was a huge mistake allowing the 18 year olds to vote. A very large percentage don’t bother for maybe ten years, probably not even registered to vote, don’t get around to it until they are, on average, ten years older. But some do, and these are the ones that would vote for Al Gore because he will save the planet.
It’s like that! You can’t make any sense out of their reasons, but for sure, the things they worry about are much different than their parents. Why worry, mom and dad will take care of everything, pay all their bills and give them spending money. What a deal!
For sure, they will vote for whoever Taylor Swift tells them to vote for! For a boy, it’s whatever some quarterback thinks will make the best president. For all those other down ticket names and propositions, it’s doubtful, or 50/50 if they even look at any of the crucial issues that everyone else is worried about.
It was a bad decision, folks! So, live with it or do something about it. IDK?
Good hunting. El Bee [ November 26, 2025, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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TA17Rem
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posted November 26, 2025 04:51 PM
Well back in the day i was old enough to carry a gun and serve like many others but if not 19 or 18 no beer. Stay on base you get served at bar but off base you screwed till old enough.
Well I went back to finalize all paperwork in triplicate the way it seemed, got fingerprinted and mug shot taken and now just waiting. Got email from ATF and they say they will start to view my documents.
I was walking around store looking at things and then this dam gun jumped out and hit me. LOL Rem. 600 chambered in 222 for a little over 800.00 all factory yet. I started getting chills and body started to shake as well, got weak in the knees even. I had a hell of a time walking away from that deal. I told myself if its still there when i come back to pick up suppressor I'm going to buy it.
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UTcaller
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posted November 26, 2025 05:39 PM
I’ve got that exact rifle with a 18” barrel. Nice rifle indeed….
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Leonard
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posted November 26, 2025 05:53 PM
Damn, Tim. You should have jumped on it! Model 600 and 660 are very nice little rifles and they are under appreciated. It won’t be there when you go back!
I bought a M660 new, in 6mmRem. It was stolen New Year’s Eve 1975. So I came across a M600 and bought it. It’s a nice little gun and every male in my family wants it when I pass away. It is such a versatile and handy little gun. I can make day stands on coyotes and I can hunt mule deer in the mountains. Of course, that vent rib is a non starter, but easy to fix. Whoever priced a used M600 for $800 understood its value.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 26, 2025 06:19 PM
Yeah those older rifles are real beauties for sure. I have three I won’t part with. A Model 600 .222 Remington with a 18 inch barrel no vent rib. A Model 660 6mm Remington with a 22” barrel no vent rib either. And a Remington Model 722 .244 Remington with a 26” barrel. All in mint condition.
Good Hunting Chad
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TA17Rem
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posted November 26, 2025 07:26 PM
Yeah, maybe so it be gone by then. I like to think on it for a spell. The price was 899.00. could buy another suppressor. LOL
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TA17Rem
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posted December 01, 2025 10:11 AM
Oh I see now what's the application for suppressors for shot guns. Few companies make these assault type shotguns kind of like a AR but in 12 Ga. and then fit a suppressor on them.
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TA17Rem
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posted December 02, 2025 08:31 AM
Oh my Christmas has come early. Got email and my stamp is approved, Scheels called as well to verify. It took 4 days! My gun smith called as well and I'm dropping off my AR to get that new barrel installed. Two different towns to drive to so i'll make a round robin drive and get it all done today.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 02, 2025 09:38 AM
Suppressors for shotguns I dunno .......If I had an AR style 12 ga. I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be for hunting Quail & Timberdoodle while wearing Tweeds, but more for home defense. In that case, I wouldn't want suppressed. Would rather it roar like the Devil stubbing his toe and shooting about 3 foot of flame out the barrel. Shock & awe and all of that.
Maybe for a tricked out slug gun for deer ????
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Leonard
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posted December 02, 2025 05:23 PM
I wonder why not long ago, it used to take more than a year for approval of the application to buy a suppressor. Now, our boy gets it approved in a day and a half? I think it was just fucking with the troops. I watched a You Tube video just a couple days ago about approving concealed weapon permits, by county, in California. Some took weeks and some took months, depending on the politics, you know Democrat, or anti gun jurisdictions. Said in Hawaii, you were looking at years and don’t be surprised if they lose the application somewhere along the way-sorry! Guess you will have to reapply?
I did hear that some counties will approve the application, but the charge is close to a thousand dollars. And you had better not have so much as a parking ticket going back years.
I heard that even in the counties where it’s possible, it still takes 6 months. Now compare Orange County to Po Dunk Minnesota where our buddy gets a suppressor approved in a day or so and gets multiple notifications.
IDK? Good hunting. El Bee
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