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Leonard
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posted November 15, 2025 10:14 AM
Tim, you know one maker is offering to pay the Tax stamp fee for you, now. The one that is seeing the Treasury or whoever collects the tax stamp money. Just saying, you don’t have to wait.
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
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posted November 15, 2025 04:08 PM
yeas to my understanding you will have to recheck zero after you put one on. the dam thing is threaded so you can use it to tune your rifle as well just like a barrel tuner. Maybe Chad can give you more info on it. But thing is you not going to lose accuracy or people wouldn't use one.
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TA17Rem
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posted November 15, 2025 04:11 PM
Yes Leonard but you still have to wait for it to clear, can't just walk out the door with suppressor. I believe here its like a 1-3 month wait for it to clear. after first of year I just walk into Scheels and buy one and walk out the door just if I bought a gun.
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UTcaller
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posted November 15, 2025 06:19 PM
Yes, I do believe it does something with the harmonics. When I first bought mine I put it on and sighted it in at my usual 1” high at 100 yards. And yes I’ve found it to be more accurate with the suppressor than without and it has less recoil. But if you take the suppressor off it doesn’t shoot in the same place, seems like mine shoots 3” high and 2” to the left. But when I put the suppressor back on it’s right back in the center and 1” high. I’ve done it multiple times same result. Mine is a Thunderbeast 7” titanium suppressor ran me about $1100. You can get them in stainless steel but they are a bit heavier. But they are less expensive usually about $700-800.
Good Hunting Chad
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TA17Rem
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posted November 15, 2025 07:39 PM
I'll look into that suppressor, thanks Chad.
I have muzzle break on my AR if you take it off its just like suppressor the point of aim changes..
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Leonard
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posted November 16, 2025 09:07 AM
Yes, I understand the sales pitch, more enjoyable shooting and all that. I don’t have to worry about protecting my hearing, I lost that many years ago. And have you seen those outrageous suppressors
they make for shotguns? Man! You really need to be a TRUE BELIEVER to lug something like that around. They appear to be double barreled, maybe 6” wide by 7 or 8 inches long. Looks more like a cruel joke than a hearing protector? Think THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!
If you need some shit like that to protect your hearing, you need to take up some alternate Hee Man activity like knitting, or competitive pie baking!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted November 16, 2025 09:29 AM
Don't they have 'Muffs' available that allow normal hearing but cut off at high decibel ???
Seems like that would work at the range. For a couple of shots hunting without, my hearing ain't gonna get much worse anyway. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Leonard
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posted November 16, 2025 10:15 AM
ko ko, my hi tech hearing aids do that, limit the deciples to maybe 125db?
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Kokopelli
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posted November 16, 2025 12:49 PM
Then ......... Other than the 'Cool Factor' you really don't need a suppressor ???? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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UTcaller
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posted November 16, 2025 02:48 PM
The “cool factor” never was part of the consideration for me. My hearing was first. Which I have lost a lot of. But once you’ve heard the difference between suppressed vs. unsuppressed for me I can’t go back. Bonuses are less recoil and from what I’ve seen accuracy. Draw backs are they are long and bulky if you don’t cut your barrel off. If I had stayed with a 26” barrel in my .22-250 Ackley the barrel would have been at 33”. But I cut 5” off and it sits at 28”. But I did lose about 150 fps in velocity. Overall I have zero regrets and I would not go back to unsuppressed but that’s just me. Shotguns are another story being suppressed. I think that is a waste of time. Again just my opinion
Good Hunting Chad
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TA17Rem
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posted November 16, 2025 05:12 PM
I got two pair of the special ear muffs yeah great for at the range. Hunting I've tried them but they suck if wind blows a little. My hearing comes and goes and has alot to do with work, once laid off some of my hearing comes back. I can hear the seat belt chime alarm. LOL
Just one shot in open field has not really bothered me main thing is stay away from truck or side of a building in open its fine.
I will try Nephew's suppressor first and if I think it be ok to use then i'll get one. If i feel I dont need it then i'll go buy another thermal, I hate removing one to replace on another rifle.
I think I'll put it on my AR if its pain in ass on a rifle, length wise as I'm not chopping any barrels. will see in week or so.
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Leonard
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posted November 17, 2025 09:42 AM
i just don’t know? One thing, like on my truck guns, the barrels are 28 and one is 30”. That gets the explosion a lot further from your ears. So maybe thats part of the equation? You cut off 5” then add 7 inches of suppressor. You are still getting the explosion a certain distance from your exposed ear, if you are following along?
Then, Let’s say you are a target shooter. The repetition is cumulative, they say. But a hunter is out in the woods sun up to sundown, maybe never firing a shot, but you needed to lug that freaky thing all friggin’ day….to protect your hearing? Know what I mean?
Maybe when the price get’s more realistic?
Good hunting. El Bee
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R.Shaw
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posted November 17, 2025 07:15 PM
Unsuppressed = uncivilized
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Leonard
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posted November 17, 2025 10:46 PM
Hardly persuasive, Amigo!
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Kokopelli
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posted November 18, 2025 02:14 AM
Actually, 'civilized' makes sense.
Less blast, less recoil, less anticipated flinch, better accuracy.
Works for me. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Leonard
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posted November 19, 2025 05:31 PM
if you say so. i guess? First of all, anything this side of 300 Weatherby doesn’t bother me. My 300Winchester is sufferable, but that fucking Weatherby is a bitch. I’ll tell you a hard recoil is a 12 gauge 3 1/2” DEAD COYOTE! those fuckers tend to jar your fillings loose! And seems like they are about ten bucks a round?
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TA17Rem
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posted November 21, 2025 05:21 PM
Got my new AR barrel. pretty nice work on it. Came with direction for break in a little different than norm. and also a small container of bore paste for lapping. Nephew got same barrel about a week ago and his is shooting nice clover leaf pattern. Break in will take about 8 rounds total if that.
If anybody wants check company out it: Eabco Arthur Brown company out of Garfield Mn. they make barrels at nice price.
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Leonard
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posted November 22, 2025 10:04 PM
Again, There is no denying that we have a concentrated push selling suppressors. Chas, this is not directed at you, so please do not take it personal.
All the hunt mags, shooting and hunting etc. they are strongly pushing suppressors ‘til the cows come home. It is strongly portrayed as something, not only cool, but essential. It is the Rubric Cube and the Hula Hoop of the generation. I saw a slip up in one of the publications very recently, and believe me, it is RARE. Way out of proportion to the “actual” number of units actually in the field. Every hero shot these days must show the cool people with their cans proudly displayed. My personal opinion is that ownership is most likely hovering below 20%. We are a very conservative group, collectively and it takes a fairly intense hype to move that needle. No doubt forgiving the Federal tax stamp will help. but it’s going to take years before suppressors dominate in the field and at the range. At least ten years and more like 20, when you consider shotguns. The first attempt is Ludacris, so much so that it will NEVER prevail.
That’s my uncivilized opinion; for what it’s worth. Comments welcome.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted November 23, 2025 07:42 AM
with night calling and thermals being legal in many states its younger generation that's buying up the suppressors. Same group that sees a new F-P addy about new great sounds or a better E-caller, the kids buy into all that crap. Now you got the thermal pimps and suppressor pimps. always hated anything related to pro staff.
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UTcaller
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posted November 23, 2025 12:42 PM
No offense taken here Leonard. I don’t care if someone gets a suppressor or not. The only regrets I have to buying one is I didn’t or couldn’t buy one sooner. Wish I could have bought one 40 years ago. That and I wish I had bought a 30 Caliber Suppressor instead of my .22 Caliber suppressor. I could have just threaded all my guns the same and used the one Suppressor for all my rifles. But oh well. Again being one of the cool kids never entered my mind.
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Leonard
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posted November 23, 2025 01:16 PM
There are some people, the Avantguard that have to be the first on their block, all the cool shit, etc. etc.
I like to think that most predator hunters are a different breed. They aren’t the trendy type. Fine taste, yes, but they think very conservatively, except Tim. lol
Anyway, as a group, we aren’t motivated to popular things just because everybody has one. If I’m wrong, ko ko, do not hesitate to correct me where I err.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted November 23, 2025 02:13 PM
Yup ........... There are those who have to have the latest & greatest technology just because it's .002 % better than what they already have. Cutting edge gizmos and all of that.
Then there are those who figure a 30-30 was good enough for GranPa & it's good enough for them. If it ain't broke ............
Takes all kinds to make the world go round and at one time, that 30-30 was the latest and the greatest.
What bothers me is more & more we depend on guides and technology over woodsmanship. I recently watched part of a 'hunting program' and I swear, the hero host would starve to death alone in a field of rabbits & ripe sweet corn. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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posted November 23, 2025 02:28 PM
Several years ago around the time Lucky Duck was just coming out with their callers, I hunted with a guy who was testing some of Rick's new sounds. His two sons were along as well. They were somewhere around 10 years old. The dad had a suppressed AR and the two boys shared a suppressed AR.
First stand a coyote came in on my side and I shot it. After the shot the boys looked at their dad and commented how loud my rifle sounded. A couple stands later, a coyote responded and the oldest of the two boys was to my left about 10 yards away. He shot the coyote. I could not believe it. No ringing ears. No concussion to my face. I could actually hear the action cycling. What a pleasant experience.
We ended up shooting 8 that day and I never pulled the trigger after the first stand. It was then I decided I wanted one. Does it help with multiple coyotes on one stand? I doubt it. However I did speak with a man at one of those expos that claimed it increased their coyote kills by 60%. How the hell do you determine that?
I don't give a shit about looking cool. Adding a suppressor makes shooting a rifle fun again. That's my bottom line. Let's see. Back in the day I used to blow a mouth call all day. Now I mostly push buttons. What a pleasant experience.
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TA17Rem
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posted November 23, 2025 04:06 PM
Koko 250 savage ruled the roost in these parts back in the day.
I know what you mean Randy and thats why I stuck with a 17 centerfire, about half as loud as the 224 cals.
Got notice this maybe my last week of work then I'll be out pushing few buttons as well.
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posted November 23, 2025 04:47 PM
Like Randy mentioned, now when I’m on a stand with someone that is shooting unsuppressed it sounds like someone is firing a cannon when they shoot, regardless of the Caliber they are shooting.
Good Hinting Chad
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