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Topic: Brass Trimming.
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Cayotaytalker
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posted April 07, 2013 08:24 PM
I know I didnt have any luck with a sharpie blkacking one out with smoke might work good enough.
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Cayotaytalker
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posted April 07, 2013 08:58 PM
I will try and post some photos of what I have been up to.This is my reloading bench. over kill but works. There was to be two more photos but they didnt take.
The edit was just to add the work bench coment.
[ April 07, 2013, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: Cayotaytalker ]
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Prune Picker
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posted April 07, 2013 10:26 PM
CT, that's a nice bench. I'm not sure you can overbuild one. If you have any thoughts about adding a progressive press in the future you will be glad you built a sturdy bench due to the vibrations encountered with a progressive. As far as Lyman products, no worries as far as quality goes, they make good "stuff"
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Kokopelli
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posted April 08, 2013 03:43 AM
Cayotay Dude;
Listen very carefully.........
"Anything worth doing is worth over-doing!!!!"
(And there are few things more worthless than a wobbly workbench.)
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Az-Hunter
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posted April 08, 2013 06:23 AM
One thing you will come to grips with is, it's to low. To my mind, a reloading bench should always be at the height you can comfortably stand in front of to utilize properly.
I can't imagine sitting, and operating the handles and levers of my loading equipment.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted April 08, 2013 06:39 AM
it took nine firings before I found a 243AI brass that needed trimming...hate to trim brass and not a primer pocket cleaner.....yet...lol
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Baldknobber
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posted April 08, 2013 06:51 AM
Well, I take the redneck approach to brass trimming. I put a brand new piece of brass in the trimmer, set the stop on the trimmer to that length and then trim away. Hasn't seemed to hurt my accuracy any. I reload so hunt and save $ so Im not that anal about it. Seems to work for me.
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Dave Allen
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posted April 08, 2013 06:52 AM
Benches are certainly a "preference" type of deal,I have yet to buy or build the ideal one.
That being said, I'm with Vic. I like to stand up, years ago I stiffened up reinforced an old TV entertainment center we were going to get rid of.
The press is on top, and everything below makes for good storage ect..It's redneck for sure but works..
[ April 08, 2013, 06:54 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
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Leonard
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posted April 08, 2013 07:27 AM
That's exactly what I thought, looking at the photo; not high enough. I don't always stand, depending, but I spent much time locating the bar stool that was the right height.
These things evolve.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cayotaytalker
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posted April 08, 2013 07:32 AM
Dave and Vic It might well be a bit low it's 8'long,2'wide and 34''tall.I'm on curb watch for somthing that would fit on top just right for storage.
This bench could be a combo bench of sorts. I work off of a chair reloading. But stand at it for odd jobs. But it's ment to be reloading only.
I just cleaned two carbs one a quad one a motor bike. And had to replace the primeing bulb on a lawn mower did that one off the tail gate of a pickup. The two carbs mostly hand held and standing up.
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Dave Allen
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posted April 08, 2013 08:31 AM
Oh' I think you're good. I just prefer to stand up when re-sizing brass, press operation, ect..
My buddy sits, and uses an old desk, like I said we all have different "preferences" in how we do things.
Might need to get after the dream reloading bench, you may have provided the insperation !
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TA17Rem
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posted April 08, 2013 09:22 AM
I'm the same as Leonard, I use a stool to sit on when I reload. Sure gets old if you have to stand all the time..
Cayotaytalker if it gets to be a hassle cause its to low just put some cement blocks under the legs to raise it up some...
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Dave Allen
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posted April 08, 2015 05:55 PM
I thought this might be worthy of bringing a two year old thread back ?
I noticed Dave mentioned trimming after the 1st firing.
I wonder about trimming to minimum spec when the brass new and just forget about it ?
That's kinda what I've been doing anyway. This might be a topic again where we can all exchange info from. Plus we should probably all get AI's anyway !!
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TOM64
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posted April 08, 2015 08:15 PM
I clean primer pockets, can't stand not to.
Well that was 2 years ago and before the Dillon, LOL.
I still hate to trim brass
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knockemdown
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posted April 09, 2015 03:10 AM
I do what Dave does. Allow that virgin brass to form fit & spring back in your chamber on that 1st firing, then trim the whole batch to uniform size.
And being that my flashhole de-burring tool's cutter indicates on case length, after trimming 1x fired to a set min. length, that brass gets a "one & done" ride on the de-burring tool. Seeing the amount of shrapnel that bitch cuts away from inside the flashhole of some brass makes doing so worth the effort...
+1 for Improved shoulders!
Just received the PT&G bolt for my 6x45AI build, should be a cute little sucker...
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted April 09, 2015 05:39 AM
I noticed on the 223 , the brass length changes with each firing..
You guys were right, with the AI's , the brass doesn't want to walk.
I use the Wilson trimmer. That thing is bad ass. I put the brass in a metal sleeve, the sleeve sits on the rail, and start spinning the cutter..
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Leonard
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posted April 09, 2015 07:45 AM
I will concede this much. If you are "reloading" on a progressive, who gives a shit about primer pockets? The whole thing screams PRODUCTION PISTOL RELOADING, and MACHINE GUN RIFLE RELOADING.
In almost fifty years, I have never even given it a thought towards a Dillon press. Because I'm not a volume shooter, blasting away at targets, etc. In a hunting application, I question the need?
You have people (like Victor) that get into comp pistol and that's a volume situation and if you already have it, then I can see using it for some bottleneck cartridges. Especially suited for all you blasters out there. Or, anybody with an AR who loves to pull the trigger. And, loves to pull the trigger....
I have never trimmed any handgun cases? I have never trimmed any Ackley cases? I don't hate neck trimming. I don't hate neck turning. I don't hate chamfering. It's good therapy.
Good hunting. Good hunting. El Bee
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TOM64
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posted April 09, 2015 09:31 AM
Ya ElBee, this thought of progressive presses never took more than a "be nice to have" even as a machine gunner. But when I decided to get serious about pistols, I found myself shooting 150-200 rounds each trip. That meant a Dillon and I'm glad I did it.
But it also showed me I took too much time prepping cases. Need to spend more time shooting and less time fretting the small stuff.
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