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jimanaz
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posted January 16, 2015 02:34 PM
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Do my old eyes deceive me or did I just see a photo of Dan (the man) in one of the previous?
Negative, those are all yours truly before I began to totally boycott razors.
Naw, just 6 1/2 feet. Camera angle makes it look taller than it is.
Paul and I conspired to hit all of his honey holes and show the rest of you how us Arizona boys do it. Hope everybody has a firm understanding now. Thank goodness Russ saved the entire camp from getting skunked. Paul passed on a fox before Bella ran it off. I sure wish he hadn't. Hey, at least I SAW a coyote.
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Fourth, my partner also wears one of those suits and I can't break him of it. Any suggestions?
As a matter of fact, yeah. Call Rancho Safari and order one. Then you won't have to go into In and Out looking like you just came off the set of the latest Rambo movie.
As for the ladder and setup,K.I.S.S. Don't be putting a bunch of shit on it that's going to make it heavier or snag on brush. Packing it is already the biggest PITA of using one. A simple eye bolt of suitable diameter mounted to one of the steps will anchor your fancy shooting stick.
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Aznative
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posted January 17, 2015 07:22 AM
I saw somewhere where a guy put a swivel bass seat on top of a ladder with a pod in front to steady the rifle. He also added a backpack frame to make carrying the thing easier. I've never used one due to storage issues on my camper truck, but do believe a good five footer that could also be used to climb over barb wire fences could be very useful.
Koko has and aluminum tool that attaches to a steel T post but they don't make those any more. I think someone feel off of and caught his balls on the post and now sings soprano.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 17, 2015 08:26 AM
Apparently they are now called a `Safe-T-Stepper` and are still available.
Mine was sold under the name `T-Post Step`
I love the hell out of mine. Can almost cross a fence without breaking stride.
YMMV
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Aznative
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posted January 17, 2015 10:57 AM
After that campout where you showed me you t post stepper I tried but couldn't find one online. I just assumed they were out of business. BTW: they make a plastic cap to protect your gonads. They would be a good investment to IMHO.
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Aznative
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posted January 17, 2015 10:58 AM
Dammit KOko, I found them but they are currently sold out.
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Cdog911
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posted January 17, 2015 11:56 AM
Most coyote round here are so hinky by the middle of hunting season that a decently elevated deer stand isn't high enough to keep one from seeing you and bugging out. I've tried just about everything that has been suggested here over the years, that's legal in Kansas to do, but drew the line on the ladder concept. Probably missing out on something, but my li'l voice tells me to not waste my time. Besides, I already have everything that will tote sumpin totin' sumpin.
As far as fence crossing, we are forced to do that as much as we sit down. Sometimes twice as much, since you have to walk in, and walk out for each stand. Kevin and I have noticed that our legs keep getting a little shorter each year, and the crotches on our cammy overalls show it. Looked at a number of simple homebrew ideas to make the process a little less difficult, but only because it's bad form for your partner to reach under and hoist your nut sack over that last inch of wire as a matter of courtesy.
I considered cutting garden hoses into three foot lengths, slitting them open lengthwise and placing them over the top wire to cover the barbs. Just leave them there for the entire season. Put them out the first time you go to a place and you oughtta have most places covered within a matter of the first few weeks of hunting. We hunt the same 6,000 spots over and over, so how big a deal can it be. Or, use a three foot length of heater hose that you carry in and out with you each time, because garden hose would be hard as a rock in cold weather. Heater hose would be cost prohibitive to use for a LOT of places and used garden hoses are very available come Spring when people are replacing theirs for the summer.
Another idea we had was to fashion two short chains, about 6 inches or so - no longer - with small hooks on each end that could be used to hook the top wire, pull it down to the second of third from the top, wrap it and secure the other hook to hold the top wire down midway between two posts, making it easier to cross a fence and be able to still use your hands for balance rather than be trying to balance and hold the wire down at the same time. Two of these would be handy to allow you to tie the second wire and top wire together at the top and the third wire to those beneath it to create a "cross through".
Pretty much solutions in search of problems, but I'm 50 now and not the gymnast I used to be. Crossing at a T-post is always dangerous because of the wobble and no stepper thingy can stop that. Had a horse once that reared up and came down on top of one, impaling herself through the brisket. Don't wanna look like that. Probably make the same Gawd awful sound if and when I did.
As to those special sounds, killed number 82 yesterday for the season using them and I will say that this particular library is unique in that Rick Paillet edited them in such a way as to leave intact certain aspect of the sound sequences and cadence that are usually edited out by other sound sources, such as gasps, grunts, and other sound that defy description. I've heard a LOT of jacks die before and this library is about as spot on as it can be in recreating that sound as accurately as possible.
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2015 12:16 PM
Saw lanky dudes like Les Johnson cross a barbed wire fence, just stepping over it without hardly breaking stride.
But, here's a question. Do you separate middle wires for a partner, crawl underneath while he pulls up on the bottom strand, go up and over the teebar, solo? I don't need anybody holding my nutsack, thank you. Must be a Kansas thing?
.... Sorry Lord, and be with the pygmies.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Lone Howl
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posted January 17, 2015 01:04 PM
I'm skinny, 6'3, long ass legs. Stepping over fences is usually no problem...but I use a sitting pad with a canvas cover that a buddy made, to drape over the wire. Sort of a dual purpose piece of equipment.
Mark
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Lone Howl
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posted January 17, 2015 01:05 PM
If a partner can't step over, I separate the wire for them to step thru.
If someone's sack is in danger...well,they are on their own.
Mark
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 17, 2015 01:43 PM
Here's my ladder. A few more details to work out, but ready for some action..
Turns out, the wood ladder was a piece of crap, just too wobbly.
I switched back to a fiberglass 250 lb rated and its solid as a rock. The feet have wider pads which will reduce the risk of me falling into a freakin cholla ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Actually, its a little lighter than the wood for its size!
One mod that I want to do is install a platform to rest my feet and monopod. Secondly, a way to hold the monopod in case I need to swing hard left or right..
Its five feet and I think its going to kick some ass.
No lazy susan, because I'm not lazy and my name isn't susan.
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UTcaller
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posted January 17, 2015 02:55 PM
Yeah I'm like Lonehowl, I'm 6'2" and don't usually have problems with fences.And my brother is my main calling partner and he's 6'4" so yeah isn't really an issue.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2015 03:58 PM
Fur, <sigh>
I mentioned before that I use a wood ladder. It was such a piece of shit, I had given it to my son and after abusing it, he gave it back. I gorilla glued EVERYTHING. Under, over steps and every brace. That ladder is now as solid and unwobbly as ANY fiberglass or aluminum ladder, probably better? It's a safe, first class ladder, at this point and the paint won't flake off like aluminum.
A lot quieter than aluminum, too
Good hunting. El Bee
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 17, 2015 04:10 PM
LB, it is fiberglass , not aluminum , which is a game changer..
Wood is better for painting and sound damping , but the sound damping of fiberglass (at least this design) is good..
My buddy's aluminum ladder in the first pic of the thread is awful loud and your right, after a day of hunting there's tons of required touch ups..
Overall, very happy. Rock solid without having to worry about breaking gorilla glue joints with my big ass.. The design is much higher quality and it does not weigh more..
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2015 04:21 PM
Ok, but that top step will melt in Arizona! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
edit:PS I like your yard. I have two Palo Verde's myself.
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Dave Allen
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posted January 17, 2015 05:05 PM
I like your yard also. This sounds dumb, I guess that's what everybody does there, no lawn ?
I spent a few days in Scottsdale in 1998 for work meetings and such. It was late October, tried to drive around a little before dark, to see the land. Didn't notice any grass ?
That's my only brief experience in Arizona.
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 17, 2015 06:06 PM
Yup, that's the front yard alright..
Its really stupid to have grass in Tucson!
By the way, the grass is my backyard.. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2015 07:22 PM
My cousin used to live in central Phoenix and had a nice lawn. Of course, she had to get up at ungodly hours to flood the yard, which had a berm/curb all the way around it to hold maybe 6-8 inches of water, once a week. I think it is/was called the Salt River project? Kind of interesting.
Good hunting. El Bee
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NVWalt
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posted January 18, 2015 07:48 AM
I tried one out, artfully painted camo also,here in the tall sage and I gave up on it after awhile as it was such a pain in the ass to pack around in that tall stuff. I spent more time cussing than calling I think. Never did see a coyote while attempting to use it and straddling that top and last rung led to some funny crashes do to my superb ability to stay balance on that contraption.
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Dave Allen
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posted January 18, 2015 09:56 AM
I'm getting to be where I hate yards !!
I think I started mowing grass when I was about 10 ? so that's 40 years of mowing.
My brother's pad over in central Oregon on 1 acre is sage and junipers. Zero yard work !!
Leonard she was probably on what they call flood irrigation, in nearby Caldwell in the older part of town, they have concrete water boxes on their lot corners. They go out and turn a valve and the water floods over the box. Same thing about 6"-8" of standing water they let soak in, once a week also I think ?
Almost everywhere else around here we irrigate off the same irrigation system the farmers use. Just turn on a valve in the spring and let the automatic sprinklers go.
It's about $50-$100 a year depending on lot size. Otherwise there is no way we could afford city water.
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Leonard
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posted January 18, 2015 10:18 AM
Hate to tell you what my water bill is every month! And, they have a bond measure coming up. Tell you what, only a fool votes for bond measures that continue forever. Sure, raise the gasoline tax, no point in everybody enjoying cheap transportation. We have bridges to repair, potholes to fill. They are taxing the hell out of my social security. Thanks, Pelosi!
We have one of the worst education programs in the country, and the most expensive. They could make it better if only we spend more.
Good hunting. El Bee
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