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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 02, 2015 03:12 PM
I'm starting to believe the secret is to tell a "story" with a combination of sounds that gets them going..
However, I do have favorites.. the favorites turn out to be the ones that have good cadence, pitch, and energy..
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Lone Howl
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posted January 02, 2015 05:50 PM
For coyotes...Combo calling, creating scenerios...I've been saying that forever, but people laugh at it? Oh well, works for me.
For cats...I do like off the wall distress aounds.
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 03, 2015 06:33 PM
LB, I've been trying to get one more cat this season and it's been tough...
I've read through previous posts on this site and there's a lot of great tips ...
However, I'm curious to the volume strategy when using continuous calling.. Some say low to high ; some say loud from start to finish..
My experience is loud is Ok; but is that limiting my success?
Does loud make "some" cats sit outside of shotgun range?
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posted January 04, 2015 07:18 AM
Answer; very possibly?
Depending on cover, I think intuitively, you would call with very reduced volume in heavy cover because, you are likely calling in a cat's bedroom?
With coyotes, open country, you can start loud, or you can begin loud after eight/ten minutes; whatever?
In rocky mountains in Arizona, (again, talking cats) I don't find moderately loud volume to be detrimental? Basically, you are calling them "down" to you because they will be up where they can watch events down hill. In situations like that, I have not seen cats sensitive to volume. Unless they hang up for some reason, and then maybe severely reduce the volume, or my solution is usually to go with a rodent/rat sound. If anything will get them moving, that's it.
But, you are posing a lot of questions. Loud might make some cats sit out of shotgun range; some - who knows?
I am a believer in continuous, for most situations but intermittent is also a good method. However, it can cause some cats to lose interest, so?
Your question on continuous; "low to high" is not a good solution past the two minute mark and then if it's heavy cover you might not even know what's going on, to make a decision?
It's a good strategy for night hunting, but until you spot a cat just standing and observing, there is not much to go by? And, if you are on foot, moving from stand to stand, low volume is probably your friend; shotgun conditions where you are wearing socks over your boots.
More cats this season? Go where they are. I dunno? Some people can't recognize "catty" if it slaps them in the face? One thing, if you call a cat but can't get a shot, you can definitely go back and give him the same shit, and he will not have figured it out; unlike most coyotes. But, also unlike most coyotes, he will still be in the same confined area; that mountain-that canyon-that butte-those trees, etc. In other words, they have a territory and it's not very big, especially females.
Good luck, El Bee
PS decoys are worth while
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted January 04, 2015 06:05 PM
Thanks LB..
After some time in the saddle, I am finding that I do things opposite for cats as I do with yotes... Without getting into detailed discussion, I get better call ratios for coyotes with staggered loud sequences without decoys and for cats, continuous with decoys..
Several times I have found a gato completely memorized at a mojo five yards away from the Foxpro blasting at 36! lol
However, time to change it up a little bit. I find high cat populations next to farms in specific thick cover.
Yes, I am calling a cat's back door.. I think I'll chill on the volume and also experiment with ladders for better visibility. I need a way to see these cats from longer distances. I haven't ignored those sound suggestions either...
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posted January 04, 2015 06:52 PM
Cats and volume...Ive seen cats charge the speaker blasting at full volume and not even flinch, sit and look inside the speaker, and Ive seen them seemingly turned off by loud calling, same sound. Individuality? Bold cats vs fraidy cats? Pressure?
Personally, I call them mainly in moderate to heavy cover, and leave the volume low, then maybe...crank it up a bit after a short while,but not real loud. I dont know why really, I just sort of do what feels right at the moment, in the terrain Im hunting. Seems to work for me? I sort of go by my gut, I try not to over think it.
"Low volume" and "high volume" may mean different things from one guy to the next.
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