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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 15, 2023, 10:01 AM:
I confess, I read a lot of books. I just finished BLOOD LINE by Nelson Demille.
I've just started THE GREEN HILLS OF AFRICA by Hemingway. I have read several of his books over the years, To Have and Have Not, For Whom the Bel Tolls, The Old Man and the Sea, A Farewell to Arms, The Sun also Rises, and what am I forgetting? Oh yes, the best, actually, on big game fishing; Islands in the Stream.
This is about African Safari hunting, something I've just barely tasted but it's good for insight as to why we do it. I may get Hemingway on Hunting after this, I don't know? I haven't had the urge to read everything by this author as I have a few others, like Demille who I throughly enjoy reading. Or Robin Cook, both of which I'm at the point where I'm waiting for either of those guys to write another. I'm also sucked into Tom Clancy and all the clones, I mean ghost writers, whatever. I'm sure I've read close to 30 titles, Jack Ryan Jr. etc. make it more like 40? Yeah, I love that shit. I've read everything Ludlum ever wrote and Elizabeth Peters and Tony Hillerman, and Anne Hillerman. Same thing when they release a new title, I get it. Hard to do when they are dead, but not impossible. Right Clancy?
That's it from the literary society.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 15, 2023, 09:58 PM:
Most of the books that I read are on the mental aspect of archery technique but one that was a pretty good read was ; Crow Killer by Raymond Thorp & Robert Bunker.
The un-Hollywood version of Jeremiah Johnson.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 15, 2023, 10:49 PM:
I'm half assed embarrassed to admit that just as I'm musically vacant, (bet I listen to less than 10 minutes a month of music),I'm almost as bad in the literary vein.
I probably average a book a year if that. Every time I crawl into a good one, I ponder why I don't read more,but I don't? I'm always busy during the day and by evening, I'd rather reload or skim through a gun rag before lights out time.
I envy you old fucks that lounge around all day laying in the easy chair reading your erudite novels and such.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 16, 2023, 05:37 AM:
Yes, and concubines to fan me, drop grapes into my mouth and keep my Mead goblet full while I read.
You guys might enjoy books by Dexter Oliver. Novels with a strong Southwestern theme. Plus, Dexter's for real and is / was a Director in the Az. Trappers Assn.
Posted by www (Member # 3918) on October 16, 2023, 05:39 AM:
I don't read much anymore ''concentration issues''. But some of my favorite subjects were the old West, Indian wars and the Little Bighorn Battle.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 16, 2023, 06:15 PM:
I bet I've read 8 or ten historical accounts of Little Big Horn? But I read the gun rags too.
One little tidbit about the 2 month Hemingway safari is that he caught such a severe stomach bug that he was having emergency bowel movements on the order of 150 per day! Now I don't know about the rest of the Peanut Gallery, but when ever I have had that sort of problem, yes frequent but no where near 150 Hershey Squirts a day. Eventually he was hospitalized, and I just can't imagine the sort of rubbed raw anus he must have had. And no wonder he recommended sitting while shooting lions.
This reminds me of a hunt along the Colorado River one time with a group of guys chasing Mule Deer. I had brought a 10 pack of those Kleenex pocket tissues and every morning I offered one to anybody that wanted one. Somehow, I managed to forget mine and in an emergency, I had to rip a sleeve off a brown teeshirt for emergency. This was August, the hunting was in shirtsleeves. Unbelieveably, I had a similar problem the next day and had left my little packet in a different jacket, but I still had that tee shirt, so I tore the other sleeve off!
The next day, almost too dark to see, and I had to take a dump and once again I had left those tissues back in camp. Not only did I have to use the rest of the tee shirt, but 3 bucks trotted past while I had my pants around my ankles!
I did not mention any of this around the campfire that evening.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 16, 2023, 10:12 PM:
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 17, 2023, 02:02 AM:
Victor, I have nothing but pity for your lack of a reading gene, but I’m just like you as far as interest in listening to music.
My son has zero motivation when it comes to reading a book, in fact, I’m sure that he has only read one book in his entire life. He was so immersed in Little League, he developed a lifetime addiction to Scoal at maybe 10 years old. But, he received a book as a gift and actually read it, and through the rest of grade school and high school, he was able to use that same baseball book for book reports he could rattle off as a no brainer. His mother must have been the source because he sure as hell didn’t develop my interest in reading. I always thought it was an amazing feat that he always got away with his fear of the printed word.
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 17, 2023, 08:37 AM:
Don't get me wrong, if I crack the pages on a read that grabs me, I'll devour the sonofabitch. It's more of a time management problem for me. I just don't have large chunks of free time available,I have current projects I'm getting after, and future projects stacked so far ahead no telling when I'll get them knocked out.
Come evening, I watch my quail and other birds feeding, play with the new pup and swill a cold beer while the sun sets, grab supper, shower and by 9 I'm fucking ready to shut my eyes. If I opened a book, I'd be lucky to get three pages turned, and my retention would be zero.
Last book that I could not put down was Atlas Shrugged, burned through that epic in about 2 weeks, and brother, that's a feat if you've seen the size of it. Probably the most influential piece of literature I've ever read.
I enjoy reading when I have a good one, just don't manage my time well enough to crawl into one very often.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 17, 2023, 09:42 AM:
Atlas Shrugged, by Ann Rand is in my nightstand and I paused reading it during an endless monologue by John Galt just short of page 500, and that was a year ago. I had a similar drift while reading 1984 and never got back to it. I know where it is, and will probably get back to it, (hopefully) one of these days. I also want y'all to know that this is something I never do. No matter how much I lose interest, I will always struggle through to the bitter end....just not those two, so far.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on October 17, 2023, 11:51 AM:
Started Josephus. Just old history as recorded way back when. Interesting and a a lot of book to read.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 18, 2023, 06:10 PM:
I got a couple more Safari related books. You may not know, I certainly did not, that Robert Ruark books are very pricy! He's supposed to be the preeminent African Safari author. Like about a hundred bucks for most titles, but I managed to snag HORN OF THE HUNTER, (used) for about what you would pay for a new best seller, and it's in excellent condition. I also got another Capstick book, DEATH IN THE SILENT PLACES, he's usually good and I'm suddenly interested in African hunting. Another pricy book is one by Theodore Roosevelt, about his African Safari. I'll keep looking for a deal, his books command a high price. I watched a movie where a father and son tried to recreate Roosevelt and son's safari. It was interesting. I'd rather read about it.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 18, 2023, 07:53 PM:
All this reminiscing reminded me of an almost totally unrelated factoid. Something I noticed was blacks walking along, no sidewalks anywhere in the bush, but carrying a live chicken upside down by its feet. One explained to me, made perfect sense.
First, cheap and plentiful. And, alive, meaning fresh, no refrigeration required. So it’s really African “FAST FOOD” and they absolutely eat everything but the feathers. I’m pretty sure they roast them, but I doubt they use a trendy can of beer.
Anyway, once my curiosity satisfied, I started seeing them virtually everywhere. And why not?
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 19, 2023, 06:12 PM:
Came today:
THE WANDERINGS OF AN ELEPHANT HUNTER
by W. D. M. Bell
AFRICAN GAME TRAILS
by Theodore Roosevelt
HORN OF THE HUNTER
by Robert C. Rural
aught to keep me occupied
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 20, 2023, 05:41 AM:
Good timing .............. I was getting ready to send you my copy of African Game Trails that I've never gotten around to reading. The cover's mostly duct tape but the pages are good. It was an estate sale find and the shipping would have been more than I paid for it. Guess I'll have to read it myself .......... sometime.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 20, 2023, 09:46 AM:
Well, you know, those events happened in 1910, a completely different world from today. Some would say, much improved! I mean hey, we got smart phones!
Imagine a ten year old reading that and might even blurt out; You mean nobody had smart phones, or only the natives? So, they just used what they got, tablets and PC's. The sense of proportion if that's the right word, is sad and comical. Wait a minute! If they didn't have Prius's and Tesla's, what did they drive? Giddy-up!
I've said it before and I might say it again: I do not envy the latest generation(s). The world they will grow up in is a pitiful mess compared to my generation. I remember, we were all children of the Greatest Generation that beat the Japs and the Nazi's with one hand tied behind their back. We had such housing shortages we lived in Quonset huts right after the war for a couple years until my family bought a house on the GI Bill.
Anyway, the family across the sidewalk bought a television. it had an 8" screen, they set it on a kitchen chair on the sidewalk just outside the door so everybody could watch it.
I think it was Author Godfrey's Amateur Hour with Julius LaRosa and the Mcguire Sisters. I had listened to this show on the radio but never knew what any of them looked like. This was the original Johnny Carson type format for late night TV and brought to us by Lipton Soup and Lipton Tea. I don't think anybody had thought of Iced Tea in 1950?
A couple weeks later and they had bought some kind of magnifying glass to mount in front of the screen, making it a "wide Screen 11" and we had dided and gone to heaven, what with all the modern HI TECH progress! We had a couple innovations, a junk wagon and it meant exactly what the name implied and what interested us kids; the Popcorn Wagon! 5cents a bag, and I guess it was the fast food of the day? It would be several years before anybody thought of a frozen TV Dinner. We had (early 50's) a 21" Admiral with a lighted halo around the actual picture tube that prevented eye strain because by then people we spending far too much time staring at the boob tube. This was equivalent to the transitioning from flip phones to smart phones, more or less.
Tell you the truth, it all went by in a blur; crawling under our desk to be safe from an A bomb attack, sputnik, etc. I first kissed a girl on New Years Eve 1956, Dixie Carlson. She won't remember, but I will never forget it. She was so cute, sat in front of me in Spanish I. Neither of us learned any Spanish, it was scandalous. Bought my first house in 1966 and while walking the kids around Halloween night, I came face to face with Dixie walking her kid. Another moment I will never forget, it was my first crush, two souls passing in the night. I never told anybody how much Nancy looked like Dixie.
Ah yes, excuse the ramblings of an old man. But those were the days. Don't let anybody tell you any different. Now off to my Dr appt.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2023, 03:06 PM:
I finished The Green Hills of Africa last night.
To tell you the truth, I wasn't overly impressed with his writing skills, I had a little problem keeping the players straight.
But, my main disappointment was the pitiful shooting skills he demonstrated. Things like missing the first 2 shots and then blowing off a leg in one case and gut shooting in another. He also lost a huge Sable and although tracking by a half a dozen bushmen was never recovered. This is one of THE most coveted trophies in the world, not just in Africa. He just gave up, had to get somewhere else.
I am a firm believer in that hackneyed expression, "One Shot, One Kill" and the idea of flinging lead after a fleeing animal is only justified when he is hit but not dropped due to unlucky circumstances and you need to follow up as quickly and deliberately as possible. But if all you can do is spray projectiles and pray, that's not a good plan. No, even then it takes calm and deliberate shooting. Being fast without careful aiming is rank amateur stuff and it's only justified after you have already put a bullet in him.
No, really, I thought his shooting skills were deplorable and he seemed to lack the self awareness to even try to justify his sloppy shooting, like he didn't know better. Then he misjudged and killed a cow Sable, which they have very impressive horns just a bit smaller, but the identifying feature is that they are chocolate brown, whereas the bull is jet black. It's the same with the Gembok/Oryx, where the does horns are actually a little longer than the males but not as "thick" so the bucks are more desirable, and still very impressive.
However, the thing about Sable is that they are very aggressive, they will lower their horns, (built like a saber) and intentionally run you though, given half a chance. They are dangerous and you do not trifle with a charging Sable!
Anyway, yes Hemingway has the hunter instinct, but (to me) he was a slob, aiming at a body mass, instead of a shoulder or lung shot. Yes, he managed to drop a few hit in the neck that dropped like a sack of shit, but that seemed more luck than deliberate shooting. Okay, I'll quit ragging on him but I am also bothered by the way he died with a (I think?) a 357Magnum blowing his brains out; an act I consider mental illness and my respect for the man is rather low.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2023, 10:42 PM:
Another thing, to keep ragging on Hemingway and his behavior. He never said so, but reading his wife’s journal, a day to day account of what happened. She said Ernest had laid his rifle, loaded without engaging the safety on the roof of the Lorry, a type of truck. A native was driving and they hit a bump, the rifle slid off the side of the roof, butt down, it hit the ground, went off and apparently wizzed right by the genius’s head! At least husband and wife were greatly upset by the close call! I think it was a 30’06 Springfield? They also used a Mainlitcher I think it was a 6.5mm? They also had a 470 double and it was rented.
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 22, 2023, 12:46 AM:
If you want to read about somebody that was the real deal, eBay up a copy of Tigrero by Sasha Siemel.
The guy would go off in the jungle on a horse with a couple of dogs and a spear to hunt Jaguars.
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 22, 2023, 07:31 AM:
And speaking of famous authors, it was Sasha Siemel who said of Erle Stanly Garner of Perry Mason fame, "He's a wonderful marksman as long as he's not shooting at anything."
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2023, 10:35 AM:
Yes, I've read about Siemel. He must have a screw loose somewhere, but undoubtedly, a brave man. In fact, a Total Badass with a fucking spear!
Whereas otherwise, almost all big cats are timid with dogs, that's not the case with Jaguars, who when cornered will easily kill a half a dozen dogs before the hunter can get to the party, and they know it and take great pains to protect their dogs.
I had a partner several years ago, one of those types that routinely struck out with the ladies, pretty much a nerd in everything else, I couldn't imagine him playing any kind of sport, even Badminton or bowling. But he could shoot. Paper, that is. Competed Benchrest and did well, far more in to it than I ever was. Unless he used his 20 gauge, but shots on game, with a rifle, forget it! I felt sorry for him. But he had an eye problem, which sure as hell didn't help. He could shoot groups though, knew all the science behind it, and had that attention to detail that is required. One time, early on a Sunday morning after we had been on a hunt all weekend with no sleep, he volunteered to drive as we had just gassed up and were heading up 85 between Ajo and Gila Bend and he fell asleep, both me and my son in the back, had not even managed to fall asleep yet. He crossed overthe oncoming lanes and we were bouncing across the fucking desert at 60 miles an hour! He woke up, straightened it out and got back on the pavement, all while I was trying to get up front when he conked out again and this time, the oncoming vehicle had observed this shit and came to a stop, not knowing which way to turn while our driver swerved across (the stopped) oncoming traffic and there we were bouncing across open desert while we were screaming at the fuck!
The guy in the stopped car leaned out and said: you better pull over, buddy! I took over, but I never forgave him and never trusted him to drive again, at least on pavement.
Another thing. I subsequently drove that stretch of highway many times and it is almost continuous washes and it's all 90 degrees to the highway and I have yet to find that open stretch where we somehow didn't crash and roll over in a wash.
Another thing I did, when driving tired and we must depend on the other guy to keep us alert, that's the job of the man riding shotgun! So, every time I caught him dozing off, I would swerve on to the shoulder where they have those scoring lines and they make that racket and it would wake him up. And he knew what I was doing and why I did it and I would give him a stare so he knew I wasn't ever going to forgive his bullshit! He admitted that he had fallen asleep at the wheel before and was not going to let him wipe out this crew ever again if I could help it. Yeah, I still got a hard on over that little stunt!
Good hunting. El Bee
PS I don't even know if he ever got laid, I haven't talked to him in years, last I saw him at a funeral for a club member, must have been 15 years ago? Poor guy, he wanted a relationship but I can't imagine what kind of woman would be interested? Look, he was a friend and hunting partner for many years but he just didn't have a clue how to charm the pants off of a female. Some got it, like me, but this guy was/is a lost cause. Total shame....ya know?
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on October 23, 2023, 08:11 AM:
Just reread some of this and didn't see any Jim Corbett stuff. I read him as a kid and it made me want to go to India and hunt maneaters. I remember Karamojo Bell and his expedition across Africa hunting ivory with a 7x57.Also Cougar Hunter about a guy in California that hunted cats for bounty. Also spotted in some of my books Use Enough Gun. Also,found a fun one. Reloading by Herter,If you remember the old Herter's catalogs that were really a hoot to read about how great Herters products were over all others.And then there is Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting.There are a few others of that vintage in there somewhere on a shelf or box.Fond memories. Thanks for bringing them up.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2023, 10:04 AM:
Yeah, Herter's. As I have mentioned a number of times, I'm original from Minnesota and Herter's and cornfields and the smell of shotgun powder, Remington high base and Hoppe's #9. The company closed doors a long time ago and yet maybe somebody bought the name, or something? My uncle, I think had some sort of firearm with the Herter's brand, I think it was a rifle but <shrug>? I guess it's like Cabella's, nothing lasts forever except death and taxes.
Yes on Corbett, magic jungle stuff with maneaters, and India is plenty exotic all by it self. I remember seeing a photo of Queen Elizabeth in one of those box things strapped on the back of an elephant and very busy, & deliberately shooting driven tigers! She must have been quite the lady, and not bad to look at back in her day, in uniform with her jeep and such.
Can't remember the guy's name, Fast and fancy shooting? Ed something? A fedora and period S&W revolvers. By all accounts, he did some amazing stuff. Of course, I heard that Annie Oakley used birdshot for all of her trick demonstrations.
On the other hand, Victor Carlson could break a thrown egg with a 22. Must be a trick to it, I guess; but he's the real deal with just about anything. Who else hangs a lion pelt on a hook behind the door....that's class! Almost fail to notice it, but not this kid.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on October 23, 2023, 01:44 PM:
Ed McGivern
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 24, 2023, 10:08 PM:
That's it!
You saw Jerry nail a beer can upside down with your revolver!
You saw Vic shoot those eggs!
But, OK, thanks for giving us Ed's name. I had it on the tip of my tongue anyway, if I had a minute, and I gave you all the clues.
Good hunting. El Bee ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on October 25, 2023, 08:38 AM:
Yeah I lost money too.
That was quite some campout.
Big name turnout
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 25, 2023, 10:12 AM:
My last two years of high school I started collecting articles from hunting mag.s on hunting and calling fox or coyotes. I'd clip them out of mag. and then put them in a 3 ring binder. Then after high school I would buy up any pred. calling hunting books I could find and have a pretty good collection of them. Then I moved onto collecting reloading books that pertained to mostly 17 cal up to 224 cal. and a few bigger books like wildcat cartridges of the world ect. Also added a few books by P.O. Ackley. Then added a few books on trapping fox and coyotes. I would spend the stormy winter days by the cornstove reading many of them over and over every year I never got tired of them. Years later the Varmint hunter mag. came out and think I have every copy they came out with and always looked forward to the next one to come in the mail. The trapper/predator caller paper was pretty good to read as well but then after awhile most of the caller articles where by Lance H. and mostly B.S. so I stopped getting there paper. Now days its pretty tuff to find a good read on predator calling as the writer is mostly trying to sell garbage we dont need, God I hate that.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 25, 2023, 08:37 PM:
You just described every damned Gun Mag there is, also hunting magazines.
"I raised my Baragra chambered in the hot new 7PRC with the crystal clear Bushnell Banner 3X9 scope and that Spear 150 grain hammer did the job on my magnificent Colorado 4X4 Mule deer Buck! Then it was time to put my razor sharp U.S.M.C 12" Ka-Bar knife that did the best job ever and in record time! Thanks also to Billy Bob's Guide Service! Be sure and tell him T.Anderson sent ya!"
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 25, 2023, 08:49 PM:
Speaking of that campout.
It was friggin" hilarious!
I think it was Victor Carlson that buried a couple of 3 day dead coyotes in the sand directly under Higgins and his son sleeping in the back of their SUV with the back gate left up. Then Rich got up in the middle of the night and went to the trouble of moving a whole pile of coyotes clear over on the other side of the wash! Thinking that would take care of the stink!
You had to be there....
edit: I'm cracking myself up, just thinking about it!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: It's still FUNNY!
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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 26, 2023, 06:36 AM:
Yes Leonard but most of my ranchers be out of business if it wasn't for my great calling and shooting skills using best reloads no one knows about and the awesome sounds I helped developed for use in my E-caller and can't forget my awesome gunner who kills quick and clean after I give the command. I don't locate prior to doing my damage control but know for fact I got all the bad guys since the killing stopped for a month. Never called coyotes over bait or dead livestock but I know people that have so I know for a fact how to get it done.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 26, 2023, 07:12 AM:
Drones you fools ............ Drones are the future of calling. With a properly equipped drone you can scout the area, broadcast calling sounds, decoy and observe the coyote's response to the auto-mist feature on your monitor all without the need to leave the comfort of home & hearth. Infra-red & Starlight video also available.
AND ........... Once the Patents and Permits are approved; GUN MOUNTS !!!! Yes, you'll be able to fire the highly effective .223 in short semi-auto bursts from a pair of Mini-14s on the larger models.
We're going to name it the 'Sportsman's Model'.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 26, 2023, 07:53 AM:
I'm putting you on the Watch List!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 26, 2023, 10:47 AM:
Dam Koko can't you keep a secret?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 26, 2023, 11:12 AM:
And ........... Once we're up and running in production, we're going to come out with the 'No Paso' model for sale to Border Patrol. It will be the same as the 'Sportsman's Model' except we'll charge the Government 5 times more $$$ for them.
About ten thousand of these babies and the Biden Border problem is solved !!!!!
I'm gonna be so rich that even my slaves will own slaves.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 26, 2023, 05:23 PM:
Company I work for been using drones for few years now. They set up with a GPS and grade reading system. Take a gravel pit for example, the boundaries are marked out with X's and then drone takes a reading of each and can calculate how much material is there for a job and how much has been taken out as we go and can also fly down a road and figure in grades and where the dirt has to be added or removed. Also a few of my buddies use them when they run dogs after coyotes or bear and get the drone in on a chase or bay up just to film their dogs at work nothing more. I also seen drones drop a single mortar round on top of Russian troops with Birdseye accuracy and good reason why they losing the war, the drones been kicking there ass.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 26, 2023, 06:14 PM:
Did you also see that the Israeli's have been paying attention to the drones dropping a ordinance round down the open hatch of a tank. The tanks they are amassing on the Gaza border have been fitted with a wire cage suspended over the whole tank. I suppose it will cause dropped rounds to explode about 4 foot above any hatch left open and render the dropped ordinance ineffective. Sort of a handyman solution but looks like it will discourage drones rigged with explosives and force them to go old fashioned with cameras.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 26, 2023, 06:38 PM:
Not sure on strength of cage but maybe just a double tap is needed plus sooner or later they goanna have to get out of the tank.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 27, 2023, 08:42 AM:
Yes, of course. A tradeoff, but the drones can't loiter indefinitely, and they will be spotted by the tank next door. This shit evolves, to use the technical term. To tell you the truth, I always considered those huge magnetic bathtubs as tempting targets. Say what you will about Hitler, but his Panzers wrote the fucking book about Lightning War. Then Patton wrote the second edition, with a tank that was inferior in many respects. But he prevailed; and so did the Israeli's, proving several times that A rabs are not warriors. Neither are Jews, but as they say, a cornered rabbit can show some spunk when they are out of options.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 27, 2023, 06:13 PM:
Well there getting to be too much shit to keep up with and think I'm going to stop at night vision and pass on the suppressors and drones.
I just picked up a Ruger in 204 I'm going to try it on night hunts. May also have a partner as well, she says she can shoot so we will find out. I'll give lucky duck one more season then back to WT for life if shit don't work out. LOL One more week of work left and if rain and snow stop for five days, I can get job done and go hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 29, 2023, 09:09 AM:
Agreed, and along those lines, I own a perfectly capable iphone 7. ya know, phone calls, occasional texting. Taking videos, that's something I never think of? I can hardly remember how to turn on the fucking flashlight!
Now, they are hawking iphone 15 and there are at least 3 versions and this is just a guess, but I bet you can be the proud owner for between $1,000 & $1,500. They can do all those things I don't need, and do it a lot better....I assume?
Now here's something that has always bothered me. Whatever the traffic will bear, or is it bare?
Let me explain. I take a drug, by self injection every month that has a list price of around $21,000! But I get a generous discount. I imagine, in Mexico, the street price would be ? Fifty bucks? Same with the new iphone.
I am positive that every one of those terrorists crossing our southern border, for some obscure reason only Biden understands, they all have a fucking smart phone and okay, maybe it's a burner phone like Rex, the Long Island killer uses. But, it's whatever the traffic will bear, and only Americans can be counted on to pay the full subsidized price. If I pay a thousand dollars, that means that my money goes to cover some of the cost of the phones in Uganda and Ukraine. So, they get that fancy new phone for maybe $100, tops! See, it evens out; at our expense. Like the miracle drugs , the one I take that costs, retail, $21,000 until the patent runs out, when they start making the generic version, who knows what the traffic will bare, or bear?
But, there is no doubt that we take it in the ass on many things. When I went to Africa, and it was about the time of 9-11, my economy airfare was about $1,500 round trip, EACH, for me and Nancy. When Lochi flew to Arizona, from Johannesburg 2 months later, he paid $600, in reverse. Now tell me how that makes sense, or logic? Gas is a lot cheaper, or the winds seem to blow the other way?
No, it's like anything else. America pays full retail everywhere, and all the time. Even my Malaria pills, I bought exactly, (from Walmart) how many I needed, for both of us, including one day before departure and plus one day after returning and they were $10 each. I'm pretty sure Africans don't pay ten bucks per day to be protected against Malaria, but I could be wrong? And, another thing; why wasn't my medications covered by my health insurance plan?
I needed something down in old Mexico one time and Mexicans pay nothing for everything. But, I imagine I could have bled to death if I didn't have a VISA card? Nothing is even remotely fair in this world!
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Good hunting. El Bee
[ October 29, 2023, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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