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Kokopelli
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posted January 16, 2013 03:07 PM
Sitting here enjoying the view of the mountains & dealing with an occasional flash of paranoia.
We now are `blessed` with a health care system that comprises a few gazillion pages. Like anything else government it will grow on a logarithmic scale. Kinda like 2-4-8-16-32.....
Now I'm hearing the talking head on the t.v. telling me that anybody who doesn't get a flu shot is helping spread a pandemic. (I've never had one) So............how long do you think it will be before FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE flu shots become mandatory??? And so it begins. Naturally, anybody refusing would be entered into a National Data-Base as being an unstable agitator and cross referenced with that OTHER data-base and OMG........HE OWNS GUNS!!!!!
Yeah, It's a brave new world.
-------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it.
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Leonard
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posted January 16, 2013 04:06 PM
Apparently, you have not seen One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest? That's a movie that just plain pisses you off, by the end.
In other words, they do have ways of dealing with malcontents. And, if it alleviates your anxiety, who's to say it's wrong?
Umm, Juicy Fruit!
Good hunting. El Bee [ January 16, 2013, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Rich
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posted January 16, 2013 04:26 PM
Well Leonard, don't forget that old Farts like us may be on the "not eligible for treatment" list. The Death panel is real is it not? Some of the Old Folks homes are already failing to give food and water to some of their most frail patients. Probably those who ran out of money to pay for their care?
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted January 16, 2013 04:52 PM
well, I got a flu shot and all it seemed to do was piss the flu virus off when it got me two weeks ago. I'm still coughing up shit.
-------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do.
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Prune Picker
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posted January 16, 2013 05:06 PM
I took shots for anything and everything when i worked overseas. Not many things are worse than flying for a couple of days with the chills and other side effects of the anti this and that shots. And i will not take a flu shot period. Fuk its a live virus from Australia and the most common bug they had during their flu season last year.
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32below
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posted January 16, 2013 06:12 PM
Following a bout with West Nile that left me with a paralized right leg the nuerologist strongly suggested I not take flu shots. Had only taken one before and none since. Finding out the flu virus can attack nerves like West Nile does adds a whole new perspective. The leg is better but the occassional twitching muscles can be entertaining.
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted January 16, 2013 07:14 PM
Wow, Lynn. Good to hear you're doing better. When did you go to the West Nile?!?
-------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do.
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Prune Picker
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posted January 16, 2013 07:32 PM
LB & Koko, A nurse Ratchett called me today, looking for the both of you. Seems you two have missed your treatments the past couple of days. If she calls back what should i tell her?
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Kokopelli
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posted January 16, 2013 09:29 PM
Tell her I'm hiding in Mini-soda under the alias `Tim`. She'll never find me even though I'm the only person in the state that doesn't have a funny accent, eh?? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Prune Picker
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posted January 17, 2013 12:50 AM
Nurse Ratchett said you & LB were close friends of a Randall McMurtry who she also treated.
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Aznative
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posted January 17, 2013 07:47 AM
I saw nurse Ratced looking for you two wearing some nitrile gloves. I don't know what she plans on doing to you guys but it can't be good. I'd make a run for it.
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2013 08:39 AM
It is my understanding that LIVE virus is not used in the flu shots of today. No chance of today's flu shots giving anyone the flu.
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DanS
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posted January 17, 2013 09:08 AM
I heard from some super genius doctor guys on Fox news that also said it was a dead virus, but it can make you sick, just not the flu.
I also read about many nurses and Dr's that are refusing to get the shots themselves. Some are actually getting fired and/or resigning. What do they know about this that we don't?
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2013 09:49 AM
For anybody that saw that movie; didn't you just want to bash that bitch's face to a pulp. I'll take Nurse Goodheart from Soupy Sales, any day.
Good hunting. El Bee
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DanS
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posted January 17, 2013 09:58 AM
I read the book first, and remember Jack Nicklesons character calling her Nurse Ratshed, ratshit, etc...
It was funny when Chief came clean at the "juicy fruit" scene. I liked when they chartered the boat, everyone was Dr. so-and so, except the one smartass nut.
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32below
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posted January 17, 2013 10:04 AM
Lance, spent 4 days in the hospital the end of August 2010. Dehydrated, 102 temp, cross eyed (least wise there was two TV's on the wall). Not an enjoyable time. Became acquainted with the floor till my pride allowed me to get a cane. Took the better part of 18 months to get most of my strength back so I could hunt again. Still have weakness but most everyone I've spoken to who had complications with this virus also indicate they've never gotten all their strength back. The right leg still tells me when I've overdone it. Suppose this is something I will deal with for awhile longer.
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ursus21
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posted January 17, 2013 01:25 PM
Not a flu shot fan. When I was in Basic Training, for the Air Force, they made us all line up and get a flu shot. Side effects literally nearly killed me. Turns out that year was a bad batch and did actually indeed kill a number of elderly folks. To this day I still suffer from permanent damage it caused my respiratory system.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted January 17, 2013 02:32 PM
respiratory problems?? I'd be looking at some of the paint you use before I would blame it on a flushot.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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ursus21
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posted January 17, 2013 02:36 PM
Only paint in watercolors. No fumes. Speaking of paint, how often did you eat paint chips as a kid Timmy? Must have been pretty often.
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2013 02:55 PM
He still does. Why, is that a problem?
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted January 17, 2013 03:21 PM
ursus21 I was just trying to help. Did a search on flu-shot side effects and did'nt come up with the problems you experienced. Looked a little farther into it and saw that your problem could of been caused by paint or from smokeing dope as both have simular side effects.... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) [ January 17, 2013, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2013 06:00 PM
They actually did use live serum at one time, but not the case today. I believe it was just last year that some bad serum showed up around here that shipped in from another country. Some people did get sick from that batch but I wasn't one of them.
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Prune Picker
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posted January 17, 2013 06:16 PM
Inhalation of diesel fumes is responsible for moderate to severe retardation according to the epa............................
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TA17Rem
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posted January 17, 2013 06:22 PM
Good thing some of us don't live in OK with all that 18 wheeler traffic. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Prune Picker
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posted January 17, 2013 07:15 PM
My tractor blows smoke away from me Tim. We are challenged around here.
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