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TundraWookie
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 05:59 PM      Profile for TundraWookie           Edit/Delete Post 
Who on this forum is in the "inner circle" of buddies with Leonard? I'm just curious. There's obviously some history with a bunch of you guys, and I just wanted to know the history of it, if it's allowed to be written about anyways on here. Gracias amigos. [Razz]
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 06:25 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Every single member, (edit: not to suggest that I have actually met every member, although I would like to)...... I have met since they registered. Didn't know any of them previously, except through the Internet.

None of my local partners are members. Actually hunted exclusively with my son and grandson since early 90's. Before that I hunted exclusively with Pat McGee. So, a very short list.

The rest are people that have been to various Huntmaster's campouts. I don't know that there is an "inner circle" since my former BFF( Higgins) is no longer somebody I count among my friends.

But, I get along very well with the Arizona Posse and like hunting over there.

Maybe somebody else knows more about it than I do? Who's Leonard's inner circle?

Good hunting. LB

[ March 04, 2011, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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TundraWookie
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 06:34 PM      Profile for TundraWookie           Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Leonard, that is helping me piece together the group a bit more. It just seems as though in the forum banter, some people appear to be good buddies, as though they've been friends in the "real" world for years (as opposed to the "internet" world). [Smile]
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 06:52 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That's true, but it's because of personal contact after the computer shit. Mostly via the HM campout. I have been active on hunting forums for about twelve years so there is quite a history with some of these folks. Like Vic Carlson, we go back beyond HM and beyond PM and beyond Posse country and beyond The ShadeTree. We actually met on a board nobody ever heard of, Sporting Adventures, and it wasn't pretty. We met in person at the ShadeTree BBQ in 1998 at Bruce Kennedy's house. Along with about fifty or so other peeps.

Good hunting. LB

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TundraWookie
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 06:58 PM      Profile for TundraWookie           Edit/Delete Post 
I've heard mention about the Shade Tree before. Who was it that started that forum and what years was that site active? I'm guessing somewhere along the way, Al Gore had something to do with it all.
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4949shooter
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 07:04 PM      Profile for 4949shooter   Email 4949shooter         Edit/Delete Post 
And here I had thought Leonard and Vic Carlson went back as far as the sixties.
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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 07:51 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Geesh, that Sporting Adventures board seems like a lifetime ago. At the time, it was state of the art. If I recall, it had a steaming coffee cup and spoon for an icon, whatever the hell that meant. Must have been about three dozen ppl on the entire WWW at that time. LOL

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RagnCajn
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2011 09:26 PM      Profile for RagnCajn   Email RagnCajn         Edit/Delete Post 
I probably better wait till the whiskey buzz subsides before I answer this one.

If I am even "inner Circle"

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bucksnort
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 04:21 AM      Profile for bucksnort   Email bucksnort         Edit/Delete Post 
My late husband, Bruce Kennedy, started the Shade Tree. At the time, his board was the latest and greatest in the way it was set up -- like this board. Like Leonard, he met most of the guys on the board and at the camp outs. He was also the one who came up with the Arizona Posse. It's original members were Bruce, Vic, Jay Neistetter and John Henry. We had the BBQ here at the house for people to meet. Leonard and Nancy were here as was Danny B. Gerald Stewart was also in attendance. I was so busy getting food prepared I really didn't enjoy myself but, I understand everyone had a great time. Nancy was a huge help to me -- didn't ask what she could do, just started helping.

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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 07:23 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
Apparently, to be a part of the Circle of Trust, you just have to endlessly bash TA17.
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TundraWookie
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 10:15 AM      Profile for TundraWookie           Edit/Delete Post 
Wow, thanks for sharing the Shade Tree information and a bit of the history about your late husband, I appreciate it. I'm learning all kinds of new things here.

So what's the secret handshake and codeword to get the fancy T-shirt and hat?

smithers,
I think most on here are in the Circle of Trust with TA bashing. That's almost like the "Outer Circle" of friends, since it's basically open to everyone. [Smile]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 10:17 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Totally inaccurate, smithers. I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion?

Yes, the ShadeTree BBQ was fun. Hard to believe how things can change, since then. Nanc is gone, Bruce is gone, Danny is gone. I got some static at work because at the last minute they wanted me to work and I said; "See ya".

Lance, for the life of me, I can't think of the Board with the steaming cup of coffee but it wasn't Sporting Adventures. Seems to me they had a red shotgun shell as a logo?

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 10:38 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
It was sarcasm, Leonard.
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Okanagan
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 11:19 AM      Profile for Okanagan           Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I remember the coffee cup thing and posted there a few times. Still remember a topic or two there that interested me. Seems like there was a gal who posted there quite a bit, or maybe ran the place.

I'm kind of oblivious to circles, unless they become obvious enough to be noticeable, and then they make me wary. There are some good, knowledgeable men here, and women. That's enough.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 11:21 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"So what's the secret handshake and codeword to get the fancy T-shirt and hat?"
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Tundra,
I am thinking that Leonard would supply all of us with a T shirt and hat if we simply ask him. He is always gracious ya know. [Wink]

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 11:24 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"Apparently, to be a part of the Circle of Trust, you just have to endlessly bash TA17"
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Nope, all he had to do was ASK for it.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 12:30 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, okanagan is right, I believe? I think a female moderated that board? Maybe it was called The Coffee Shop? Not a whole lot of predator dialogue, more guns and ammo stuff, as I recall? But, I think it went belly up or someone just pulled the plug? But John Henry was over there, and Vic, and me, once in a while. But, in those days, yours truly and the future "Coyote Gods" did not get along, at all.

The CSVCA had a message board that I moderated for a while. It got good traffic.

Good hunting. LB

edit: okay, I almost said come to the next campout and get a teeshirt, but nah, we don't do promotions and tempting gear and never will. That's wannabee shit.

[ March 05, 2011, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 12:43 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm wanting to say your right Leonard. I think it was called the Coffee Shop. Or something like that.

I go way back with this internet stuff, to before there even was a "web" or "browsers". Usenet user groups, you know, rec.hunting.guns and stuff like that.

But I think the first place I ran into Leonard, Vic and John-Henry was on the old Go Go Varmint Go board. Would have probably been about '97 or so? GGVG is still running, still owned by the same two guys. I don't go there much anymore, but do still check in there occasionally.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 12:59 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That's absolutely correct, Dave! How I forgot GoGoVarmint Go, I will never know. It's was and probably still is a very good board.

I quit going over there during the phase when they were chipping in and buying deserving people rifles and such. I don't agree with that kind of charity, yet also don't like to be perceived as a cheapskate, either.

The people that I knew on that board were first rate; including DAA. I was always jealous of Dave's rifles!

Good hunting. LB

edit: not jealous, just envious.

[ March 05, 2011, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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TundraWookie
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 01:27 PM      Profile for TundraWookie           Edit/Delete Post 
This "inner circle" thread here is really digging back into some history. I really like hearing about it too, thanks. I'm a young guy in the world of predator hunting, so like to hear it from the guys (and gals) who've been around for awhile.
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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 02:30 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
OK,
When the AZ Predator Posse board crashed and Bob Davis out of South Dakota got it up and running again, what was the board called? Posse Country?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 03:01 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, it didn't crash, but happened directly following a trip to Texas with Bruce, Uncle Jay and JohnHenry. Bruce was so pissed off that he shut the board down and created a page ragging on Jay for a very long time. I think they got over it eventually, in fact, I'm sure they did.

And, yes. Bob Davis immediately began work on another board, as did Frank Heartlein. Frank's Board was called Huntmaster's and really did n't do too well, but Bob's board took off and attracted a very large majority of ShadeTree members. That board was called "POSSE COUNTRY" and was a tip of the hat to Bruce's Arizona Predator Posse, which also shut down.

When Will Craig created Predator Masters, he asked me to moderate the Predator hunting forum with Scott Huber, but I never agreed to it, he just drafted me anyway. I broke the news to Bob Davis and he got all pissed off. Due to a series of events, Bob transferred his entire membership list to Predator Master's and shut down his board, and that's how PM became the biggest deal in predator message boards. It was a while after that that I quit PM and took over HM.

So, brief history of predator hunting evolving on the Internet.

Good hunting. LB

PS I left out a few details. So what?

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Az-Hunter
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Side note, Bob still has a board, The Texas Predator Posse, it has a faithful following of Texas hunters and others.
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bucksnort
Miss Chris from AZ
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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2011 03:15 PM      Profile for bucksnort   Email bucksnort         Edit/Delete Post 
I believe Bob Davis did have Posse Country. Bob and several other guys came to Tucson one weekend to hunt. They didn't stay with us but, Bruce did fix his infamous ribs for everyone.

I forgot to mention earlier that Bruce built the Coyote Gods board for JH. I was really glad when that supposed friendship ended. It wasn't pretty but at least JH was out of our lives forever.

Leonard, was it you or Tim Behle that I gave some Shade Tree BBQ hats? I found them not long after Bruce passed away.

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You can still go back into the archives on PM and read posts by all these chaps [Smile] It'd do ya some good to go browse.
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