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Here's a funny observation from some of the news coverage. I think most of you know one of the big pushes on this is due to the increased violence along the border including the murder of a rancher in southern Arizona. How did the Hispanic community respond today...by throwing rocks and bottles and getting into fights with the police and supporters of the bill.

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Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on April 24, 2010, 05:44 AM:
 
Here's the article that's on the front page of this morning's Arizona Daily Star -- Tucson's liberal rag and, only newspaper.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_57b04baf-6bcd-5d18-a902-6784a51825d8.html
 

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on April 24, 2010, 07:03 AM:
 
Briguy
It has nothing to do with racial profiling thats the red herring dont take your eye off the ball, its all about open borders for this crowd make no mistake!
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 24, 2010, 07:16 AM:
 
Racial profiling is ok with me. Be realistic. We are having a problem with Mexicans being here illeagal. Your not going to catch any of them if you dont check Mexicans. Same with dune coons. They are trying to kill us here and all over the world. You have to racial profile.

I also heard that the St Louis police department announced they are changing from German Shepard dogs to Coon Hounds. They said the Germans arent causing any problems at the moment.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 24, 2010, 08:20 AM:
 
Do these protesters have an extra scoop of stupid for breakfast every morning??? How does supporting making it illegal to be in this country illegaly make me a hater???? What's the logical alternative; making it legal to be in this country illeagly???? Why am I a racist for thinking that illegal Hispanics come from Mexico?? Where do these morons think that illegals on the southern border comes from; Canada???

How about we just take the Mexican laws on illegal immigration into their country, translate it into english and enact that. That would really give the protesters something to piss & moan about.

I swear...........the more I'm around people, the more I like coyotes, rattlesnakes & gila monsters.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 24, 2010, 08:39 AM:
 
You just insulted your constituency, koko.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 24, 2010, 11:46 AM:
 
Im with ya KoKo. Lots of states use the theory on out of state hunting license that whatever you charge our hunters, we will charge yours the same. We could do the same with immigration. Throw their ass in jail forever, like they do in Mexico. Chinese would disappear if caught here illegally. Several other brands would be shot. Simple.

Ive said this over and over again. Racism is a crock of shit. I dont buy into it. Everyone else can be racist about me and I cant speak my mind? Piss on em. Ill say what I want.

Oh, and KoKo, I understand. I like my dogs way better than most people. People will disappoint you.

[ April 24, 2010, 11:48 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 24, 2010, 12:45 PM:
 
Not really, Leonard. The cities are full of 'people'. This place is full of 'real people'. There's a difference.
 

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on April 25, 2010, 04:55 AM:
 
There are many Americans of mexican decsent that agree with this new legislation , How then is this a racist issue. There is a clear difference between something being racial and racist.
Andy ! those German Shepards arent worth a shit I walked by one the other day and he didnt even notice me.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 25, 2010, 05:26 AM:
 
LOL Paul.

If I were a Mexican Immigrant that went through all the channels and jumped through all the hoops it takes to become a citizen of the US, I would be one of the toughest on illegals. If I went through all that effort, I would be pissed that so many just try and walk in and take what I worked for. If there werent so many illegals coming over, we could work on making it a bit easier and let a few more in the right way.

I imagine many feel that way.
 

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Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on April 25, 2010, 06:22 AM:
 
Here's the headline in today's liberal rag

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_0e690124-df27-5eb4-b45d-23d305b7a1c0.html

Also, received this from a friend in Albuquerque -- it really made me chuckle.

I just heard that there WILL NOT be any racial profiling in your
state when the new immigration law becomes effective. Instead,
law enforcement will be profiling cowboy boots. You know,
the chartreuse or fluorescent purple ones with toes sharpened
in a pencil sharpener.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I am proud to have Arizona
as my neighbor.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 25, 2010, 06:36 AM:
 
One of the talking heads on Fox (the guest who is against the bill, no less) just pointed out that the new Az. law is the same as the Fed. law, and if the Feds had enforced it Az. wouldn't have had to write their own law. Strange bed-fellows & all of that.

My prediction; Texas and / or New Mexico will be next to pass their own law.

And another thing................. What ever happened to the Minute Men down on the boarder????
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on April 25, 2010, 07:23 AM:
 
"What ever happened to the Minute Men down on the boarder????"
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Well Hell Koko, they were there for a minute.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 25, 2010, 07:45 AM:
 
I think its funny as hell that people are so shocked about a law to find and arrest people breaking the law. What a novel idea! Arrest people who are law breakers!

I wish I could be president. We would round all of em up and send em all back and put troops on the border with shoot to kill orders until they get the hint. While Im dreaming, I would fly to Iran and bitch slap that little twerp and tell him to knock it off or Im nukin your ass and fly back home.

If we had a president like that, the world would be a better place.
 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on April 25, 2010, 07:58 AM:
 
I'll keep it breif, i cant type with one hand. thesee the typical partygoers at the phx protests......you decide.


 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 25, 2010, 08:06 AM:
 
That's a lot of baloney sandwiches! ROFLMAO!

edit: with only one arm, you better take down the welcome to USA sign.

Don't tell Lance, he already thinks I'm a cruel heartless bastard! Now I'm needling a sick friend...what a prick!

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 25, 2010, 10:51 AM:
 
".......and send them back".
Wrong, Andy. They keep coming because the reward is worth more than the risk. The correct answer is to turn them over to Sherrif Joe for about five years in a tent.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 25, 2010, 11:02 AM:
 
Not if you got some troops at the border bustin some heads. They will get the hint.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 25, 2010, 11:41 AM:
 
Hmmmmmmmm.................. A free fire zone along the border might tie a knot in Obama's prayer rug.
 

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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on April 25, 2010, 11:47 AM:
 
LMAO
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on April 25, 2010, 11:50 AM:
 
"A free fire zone along the border"

Hell, that wouldn't be any long term fun. There wouldn't be any targets the next day.
 

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Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on April 25, 2010, 04:03 PM:
 
It's my understanding that Chris Simcox, the head of the Minute Men, is no longer affiliated with them. Don't know why he's left but, apparently, without his guidance the Minute Men are no more.
 

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Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on April 26, 2010, 08:44 AM:
 
I say we simply create a no man's land like a 100 foot swath on our side of the border with anti-personnel land mines. I could call coyotes on the US side and watch’em get blown to hell and back. What do you think I could get for the pelts?
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 26, 2010, 09:35 AM:
 
When I think about me hopping that fence to retrieve called Mexican coyotes...... you wouldn't catch me doing that shit, today!

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on April 26, 2010, 10:32 AM:
 
Ahhhhh old wise one; I maintain photographic evidence, which shows you still make illicit forays into our neighbor to the south without proper documentation.
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on April 26, 2010, 10:34 AM:
 
"Don't tell Lance, he already thinks I'm a cruel heartless bastard! Now I'm needling a sick friend...what a prick!"

Nahhh, I just don't see the need to use a sledge hammer on a window that's already broken.

Must be another one of those Kansas things, I guess. I can't recall us ever having to pass a law that forbid us from doing something that was already illegal. To say it is now illegal to be illegal seems a bit redundant and unncessary.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 26, 2010, 11:37 AM:
 

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According to the Obama Democrats it’s constitutional to penalize someone for not showing proof of health insurance but not when it comes to requesting proof of citizenship.

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According to the Obama Democrats it’s constitutional to penalize someone for not showing proof of health insurance but not when it comes to requesting proof of citizenship.

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The halfrican has now spent over $1.7 million to prove his point that he does not have to answer requests to prove his citizenship.
 

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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on April 27, 2010, 02:46 AM:
 
After 9/11, INS/ICE stopped coming out to pick up illegals on a regular basis. We used to call them for one or two illegals and they would come out, but no more. They became inundated post 9/11.
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on April 27, 2010, 04:36 AM:
 
Personaly, I support the movement to militarize our Border Patrol. After all, the Coast Guard is a military branch safeguarding that part of our border bounded by water. WHy not make the Border Patrol a military branch? Does anyone know why they weren't established as a military service branch to begin with?
 

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Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on April 27, 2010, 07:07 AM:
 
Here's the latest in this morning's Tucson Liberal rag -- I read some of the comments to the article and, have to agree with the majority. I still haven't figured out what is so hard to understand about illegal.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_e282eddf-7b50-514f-9716-3829a65d9df5.html
 

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Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on April 27, 2010, 07:24 AM:
 
After reading that BS its plain to see its all about money.
 

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on April 27, 2010, 12:05 PM:
 
Just listening to Hannity, and now some of the liberal meatheads are saying the law may be 'unconstitutional'--Uhh, if it is basically the same as the Federal Law, how can that be??
 

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Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on April 28, 2010, 06:05 PM:
 
I love it that AZ passed this law and I love the uproar. There are now a number of reasons for me to move to AZ, (cept for Higgins!!LOL)I have high hopes that this will force a hard look, at a problem, long ignored. I think the fight is finally getting started boys, lets win it, get involved, vote, write letters.
Carl
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 28, 2010, 06:21 PM:
 
Does anyone else see the irony? Liberals and Progressives always think the U.S Constitution is a work in progress, not to be taken too literally because it gets in the way of their various agenda, like abortion rights and gay marriage.

So, here we have a law in Arizona and those same idiots suggest darkly; "it may be unconstitional". I guess unconstitional is whatever liberals say it is, unless it is actually something in the CONSTITUTION, which is (like) a couple hundred years out of date.

Liberals are idiots!

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on April 29, 2010, 06:38 AM:
 
I'm no constitutional lawyer, like Nobama supposedly is, but, I always thought you had to a U.S. citizen for the Constitution to apply to you.

Also, if I entered Mexico, or any other country, illegally and broke a law, such as entering illegally, and was caught I doubt I'd ever see the light of day again.

According to some who are against this new Arizona law, the police will now be stopping you for just walking down the street. Actually, that's not the case. You have to be doing something illegal for the police to stop you. There are Border Patrol checkpoints between the Mexican border and Tucson. It takes longer to sit in line than anything and, most vehicles are waved through with a have a nice day. The last time I went through one of the checkpoints, one of the BP had a dog and was walking the line between cars. The dog was working, sniffing cars -- assume for drugs. Perhaps because I am a white female I certainly have nothing against being profiled or having to go through a checkpoint.
 

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