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Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 17, 2009, 09:26 AM:

It's been a very long time since I've logged in here... Thanks Leonard for the help, I'm sorry you had to go through the hassle to find my info.

I have pretty much always come here every now and then and just read...

I thought I'd jump in here after seeing the post about wrestling at the PM hunt. [Big Grin]

Just the thought of that made me laugh way too hard! Sure wish I could get in the cage with the frog and Barry. I'd be willing to donate big bucks for that opportunity! Might even sell my Harley to finance that event.

I just spent quite a bit of time reading the old post,titled "Question" about the original meltdown at PM with JimC and have to think there is a certain irony in that and recent events.

I haven't posted here because I didn't feel I had the experience to speak. I'm just a recreational coyote hunter by most standards especially when compared to many of the names I see here, so I'm hoping you don't think I'm trying to blow smoke if I say something now.

Nikonut

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 17, 2009, 09:34 AM:

I guess another "Welcome" is called for, Nikon? But, as far as participating or not because of lack of experience, or whatever you choose to call it, remember; we let TA post, so pretty much everybody is entitled to an opinion.

So, you would like to wrassle with RF, eh? He's built like a Sumo, so it could prove difficult to knock him off his feet? Which he (no doubt) cannot see?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 17, 2009, 10:36 AM:

Nikonut,
Welcome! You don't need any special talent to post here, you are one of the good guys and that is what matters most.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 17, 2009, 01:37 PM:

Thanks Guys...

Leonard, if I got in a cage with the frog it wouldn't be about wrestling, more like "Ultimate Fight Night". I don't think I'd be first in line so it probably wouldn't matter anyway!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 17, 2009, 04:39 PM:

I'm seeing (envisionng) some kind of tag team; you and Dan versus Redfrog and Java. Bbar will call in sick.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 17, 2009, 05:35 PM:

I was thinking more along the lines of a "Kumite" fight...

Here's an interesting link... look at the title! That's really someone's website! I love it!!!!

http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/bloodsport.php

Nikonut

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 22, 2009, 06:30 AM:

I personally think it's bull shit that you stuck around PM to "try and change things" and turned your back on those who were your friends Nikonut. It seems more likely, the only thing you wanted to change, was your status in the predator hunting community.

I think you did that, but perhaps not in the way you might have planned.

Just a personal opinion, based on our past.

Al

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2009, 08:19 AM:

Just blew him a kiss, didn't ya? I guess you guys are old friends? None of my business. But, it's cool that you can discuss disagreements that happened over there, over here, isn't it?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 22, 2009, 08:29 AM:

It's been what - 8 years? Nikon and I go back a ways. One Christmas a few years ago, I sent him and his girls some calls - special ones - I thought back then we were friends?

Then I got the ban boot from the redfagot, and old Nikonut never once said boo to me after that. Not one word.

So, if he stuck around to change anything, it was his standing in the predator hunting community. It damn sure wasn't to stick up for or defend the people redfag was screwing over.

But he found out, the hard way, that redfag is one ruthless SOB. I'll bet you I would have never been baned if I had agreed to sell him my calls for less than a chinaman makes in an hour for his store. But I refused to become his whore, and sure enough, he took the first chance he got to get rid of me.

But again, like I said, I thought Nikon and I were friends. Once I was gone, we weren't buddies anymore.

Maybe where he lives that's how friends treat each other, but I grew up in Illinois, and that;s not the way I remember it. Times change I guess.

I think a lot of these former PM mods are trying to wash the stink off their hands - but some of it might not be external if you know what I mean.

Al

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2009, 08:48 AM:

Hey! That's a great title for a thread!

"WASHING THE STINK OFF MY HANDS" Film at eleven.

edit: but, it's good to see you guys making up and reconnecting.

[ December 22, 2009, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 22, 2009, 09:00 AM:

You are just evil Mr. L - Pure evil LOL

And yes, it is nice to be able to speak your mind on a board. Thank You for that opportunity.

Al

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 22, 2009, 09:21 AM:

WOW!

Al... I'm very sorry you feel that way. You are most certainly misguided in your thoughts about what has happened between the two of us. Your feelings couldn't be further from what happened!

You left PM way before I became a mod and then you went to FnF. I never joined over there and lost track of you but I have always spoken extremely well of you and given much of the credit for what callmakers today do as an example. You set the standard that many even now strive to attain.

I got pretty soured on all the fighting between the two groups back then, ask KeeKee or some of the others that know me. I have never really made calls to sell so trying to put myself in a better position doesn't really make much sense? I did finally take a mod position after Tony quit to hopefully change things and save what so many like yourself had worked so hard to create... I think I did help the call forums grow and I also got insight into the things most only hear in rumors or stories second hand. For that alone I would go through the misery all over again.

I also agree 100% in your analogy of the frog. He is truly a piece of worm dung in my opinion and needs to go so PM can survive and continue as Will wanted it too.

I believe I even posted on your new website how much I liked it... I have always been just a phone call away. I will take full blame for not having called you Al but you are wrong if you think I'm not your friend and that has never changed nor has my respect for you! Ask around to what callmaker's calls were proudly hanging and displayed at my booth during the KC Expo... ask JC he was there.

As for washing the stink off my hands I'll have to agree... PM has done that to a lot of people.

Nikonut

Edited for spellin' so Dan doesn't pound me, too! LOL

[ December 22, 2009, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2009, 09:34 AM:

Aaahhh! That's the spirit of the season. Merry Christmas, one and all says Tiny Tim.

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 22, 2009, 10:21 AM:

Ba hum bug!

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 22, 2009, 10:41 AM:

Leonard, you are just too funny [Smile]

So Tom, I suppose it just wasn't worth staying in touch after I got booted from PM. I would have logged on and said Hi now and then but, well, they sort of locked my account. Even put my name in the word censor. I couldn't go there, and I just wasn't a good enough friend for you to come somewhere else?

I feel all warm and fuzzy now. I suppose everyone should just welcome all of you guys with open arms and forgive and forget in the spirit of the season.

What Tom64 said.

Al

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2009, 10:59 AM:

If we could only get these Congressmen to wash that stink off their hands......

You know, like THE LION OF THE SENATE?

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 22, 2009, 11:18 AM:

I guess you're right Al...

Probably all my fault and no reason to talk now either.

Maybe coming here was a mistake, too. You guys don't really want to know the truth, you already know everything and have your minds made up.

I'll just keep what I know to myself and you can always wonder what I might have been able to show you. Probably better that way.

Merry Christmas to all and to Al a Good Night!

Nikonut

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 22, 2009, 12:38 PM:

Hell, it wont be like I missed anything anyway. Been 3 or 4 years already - what's a few more.

The point though is simple. None of you did a freaking thing. You could have all got up and walked out. What kind of message would that have sent? But no, being a PM Moderator is Special. Makes you all "somebody", but it doesn't make everyone else Somebody's fool Tom.

You stayed because you were now "somebody". Now you want to continue to be "somebody" by letting everyone believe you fought the good fight and you have the "dirt" on what went on in the "backroom".

Everyone KNOWS what went on in the back room,

Slurping.

Merry Christmas to you too buddy.

Al

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2009, 02:47 PM:

Don't be so sensitive, nikon. Everybody get's flack once in a while. Gotta be tough to survive on the Internet.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on December 22, 2009, 05:00 PM:

Nikon, like Rich posted above, no special talent required. I'm a fun lovin amateur and I still get to post.

If somebody thinks it isn't fun it would be interesting to examine their motives.

Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on December 23, 2009, 04:29 AM:

I always wondered who the hell "suckanut" was. Funny how these screen names get twisted around.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 23, 2009, 06:44 AM:

"I always wondered who the hell "suckanut" was. " was."
-----------------------------------
suckanut? I thought it was Nickle Nut. [Big Grin]

[ December 23, 2009, 06:46 AM: Message edited by: Rich ]

Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on December 23, 2009, 07:10 AM:

UH...Hello??? Is that pygmies I hear begging your pardon!?!? [Eek!]

Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on December 23, 2009, 08:01 AM:

Tom hasn't done anything different than we all have, which is get caught up in the moment. He was just trying to please the no-neck Antichrist. [Big Grin]

[ December 23, 2009, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 09:29 AM:

Nikon, some of us will think less of you if you get all timid now and go away. Cowboy up. Defend yourself from unfair criticism. I wish I knew who to cheer for, but you have a chance to begin anew, or confront your accuser(s). Personally, it doesn't seem like a huge crime to ignore a friend on the Internet while basking in the glow of PM Moderation?

Come on, where you going to go for entertainment? CG? They will slice you up and have you for breakfast.

I'm just kidding. Whatever you do, thanks for stopping in and chatting for a bit.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on December 23, 2009, 01:20 PM:

Nikonut may need to sit out a while to get himself acclimated to the real world of online dicussion, I guess Leonard, he expected you to suspend or ban THO for ofending his sensibilities?

Good hunting.

Q,

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 01:49 PM:

Damn, Q You're right again! Never thought about that? I have been gone so long. I always handle it with conversation, they don't?

quote:
Are you not really tired of these games and like to stir the shit? This is what Huntmasters has amounted to now? says "donner"

My response is; yes, of course I'm tired. I need a nap.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 23, 2009, 03:18 PM:

So... you thought I was gone?

Hell, I've been hit harder by a female volleyball player on the beach. My computer is set to automatically do antivirus updates and restarted by itself. Had trouble logging back in again. I am slow but I figured that and lots of other things out on my own. I said, "Good Night" not goodbye!

Now as for booting THO or anyone else as far as that goes... why would I want that done to someone that I considered a friend regardless of how he feels about me now? THO has his own issues, he doesn't need me to jump on him.

When it comes to those that think I want to be "somebody", my question is why would I? I've done just fine being a nobody all these years and I'll continue on that course if it's alright with you fellas.

Q, I've never met you(yes,I know who you are)and you know your way around coyote hunting and these boards... seems you've had your share of being bashed and you're still here and so am I. You are correct about sitting back and acclimating... big difference.

As for Al's comments about me helping when he was banned, I wasn't even a mod then. I guess I could have walked away like all the others that did when Al got banned, but wait, did anyone else walk? Oh well. Besides that he didn't seem to want friends back then considering how many he alienated.
One good thing about Al, the more infamous he becomes the more my considerable collection of very early THO calls becomes!

By the way, I got an email from <donner2691@hotmail.com> explaining to me what a two-faced scumbag I am and I am really devastated! Seems once you've slurped frogdick it's hard to get rid of the smell!

Have fun guys... I'm not going anywhere.

Nikonut [Razz]

[ December 23, 2009, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 03:39 PM:

Two faced scumbags are invariably anonymous. Did donner tell you who he is? Didn't tell me, but I'm so totally out of the PMS loop,
I didn't know;

one: Nikonut was banned over there?
two: THO was banned over there?

Have there been others banned, while I wasn't paying attention?

donner391642hike! who are you, and why do you write gay emails to total strangers?

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 23, 2009, 03:57 PM:

I'm just guessing but he does have a Canadian inflection...

Either way he's doing a service by putting heat on those he thinks he's protecting! LOL

[ December 23, 2009, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]

Posted by oslo (Member # 3517) on December 23, 2009, 04:13 PM:

Just reading this thread gives on enough evidence of who donner is. It is right in front of your faces.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 04:32 PM:

Well, spill it, Einstein!

I have very little time to ponder which of the usual suspects it might be....and it hurts to concentrate.

The only one I can think of rhymes with chiggins, but I'm forever grateful should you choose to enlighten us?

Good hunting. LB

[ December 23, 2009, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 04:34 PM:

After a quick review, the only name that jumps off the page is Dangerous Danderue? That can't be right?

edit: I have wondered, from time to time, now that you bring it up; who the hell is Brother Oslo?

[ December 23, 2009, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by oslo (Member # 3517) on December 23, 2009, 05:41 PM:

Reread the thread, and then read it again.
Someone was complaining that another turned their back on "friends"

Then they said that they were in it for themselves and not for the good of anything else. Then the person stated that this is not the way "friends" acted toward each other.

Then an anonymous e-mail was sent calling Nikon " TWO FACED"
Just seems a tad bit fitting. But that's just how I read it.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 06:13 PM:

Not compelling enough for a conviction. He may have had motive, but did he have opportunity and the means?

I got an email from another anonymous source, which seems to be all we have lately? It says his gf' sister-in-law's landlord traced the source to Canada via PM's server. So, whoever this songdogger is he was also sent an email

Also, too easy. Wouldn't RF have the balls to use his own name?

I can't tell the players without a scorecard.

The next guy to email me had better tell me what his name is!

Good hunting. LB

Posted by oslo (Member # 3517) on December 23, 2009, 06:23 PM:

o.k. that was just my take. didn't mean no harm. carry on.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 07:24 PM:

And, the games continue. I replied to this person that claimed he also got an email from donner and it came from Canada.... Fatal error no account.

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 23, 2009, 07:40 PM:

Whom ever it is,

I feel they are probably sitting back laughing at all of us for trying to decipher his or her intended purpose.

Reality is I'm not going away and neither is the disrespect so many feel toward the present and past staff of PM. Pretty simple, really...

Nikonut

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on December 23, 2009, 08:28 PM:

Maybe it's Rocky? He's probly all moved in and set up with his own computer and all, playin' everybody.
He;s still alive right LB?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2009, 10:51 PM:

I'm fattening him up and leaving the side door to the garage open so he can get in out of the rain. But, I'm gonna get that sucker. More pork chops tonight! Yum!

Good hunting. LB

edit: The problem here is that whoever is sending these bogus emails thinks I'm quite a chump, and I have to agree with him. I always consider people to be honest and straightforward, honest, not devious.

So here we have Mr Devious playing me for a sucker, and I deserve it for having a trusting nature. I would never have thought of checking his address to see if it was valid, as Daryl did.

I guess people are a lot more trecherous than I give them credit for? I'm slowly wising up, but the butt of a sick jokester's prank. Why I didn't think of Robb Krause until just now, I do not know? It's a possibility? So many to choose from.

[ December 23, 2009, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on December 24, 2009, 06:25 AM:

Mr. Leonard

Yup - I got banned from PM a long long time ago. I think I was one of the first after RedFag stole the forum from real coyote hunters.

Something about me calling him a fagot or something like that.

My apologies to all the honest hard working fagots out there, I did not intend to demean you by inferring that Redfag was one of you.

Oslo,

I didn't send any anonymous e mails. My big problem is I have a tendency to speak my mind and not hide behind the keyboard. I always use the same two names. TheHuntedOne or THOGameCalls.

I did send a few nasty grams to Clever Gary a while back. Just to poke him a bit, under a made up screen name from AOL, but easy enough to trace.

Other than that, I just post what I think and do it on my long time names. I suppose that is what made me Infamous on the internet, unlike guys who don't have the balls to say who they really are and go by crap like PMAdministration

Tom (the Nikonut one)

Don't leave Huntmasters - that would be bad for everyone. But just like I did, you burnt a lot of bridges when you took on the PM Moderator job and stayed even when the carnage was going on. I have a problem with that - others might not, and if Leonard tells me to shut up, I will of course, but what I wanted to say was said, and I'm not going to harp on it anymore. You know how I feel, you have my e mail, and if you want to explain anything to me, feel free. I'll listent, but my waders are in the garage so keep the BS to a minimum.

Mr. Leonard,

My apologies for making one of your guest feel unwelcome. I'll try and behave more in the future.

I hope you all have a very Merry Christmas, and a happy new year.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 24, 2009, 08:51 AM:

I do not object to anyone expressing opinion, but if it gets offensive, just like happened here, you should expect questions and be prepared to explain yourself. This is a normal adult behavior, no tricks and secret email accounts by chickenshit assholes. I have no problem with clearing the air. We do not allow private messaging, so whatever you have to say, say it on the open board and it's far better to be moderately civil. As one fine (but ugly) gentleman found out, it only becomes a problem when you continually attack management. (& you know who you are, [Wink]

) Other than that, you are free to squabble 'til the cows come home. Just don't pick on me and piss me off.

I love you guys, even both of my bad boys, Scott and Tom.
Merry Christmas!
LB

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 24, 2009, 10:02 AM:

...And just in case anyone reads this part of this thread only, I'm not the "Tom" Leonard is refering to, yet that is...!

Hey Al, I understand your anger and believe me I have some myself especially concerning PM. I'll try to give you a call after Christmas and we can maybe talk... not sure we've ever actually talked other than online.

Hope everyone has a safe and Merry Christmas with family and friends.

Merry Christmas from Illinois!

Nikonut

Sorry, I had to edit this. My ubb code didn't work!

[ December 24, 2009, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 24, 2009, 10:23 AM:

Yeah, sorry. Ugly Tom is who I meant. He knows I love him, just kidding, ya know?

Like everybody else, I wish he could post, but that privilege is valuable and should not be abused. We must live with the consequences of our actions.

Ah hell, It's Christmas! Maybe I should give him a 24 hour pass?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on December 24, 2009, 10:58 AM:

Leonard,I just noticed the poll and missed the chance to vote. Better late than never I guess.

I vote let Tom come back..

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 24, 2009, 11:30 AM:

I wish this was a Democracy, but it's not. The poor guy is subject to the whims and arbitrary decisions of management. And, it's totally unfair, darn it!

Wait, what's that?

Oh shit! There's protesters outside with signs: Free the UGLY ONE! STOP GLOBAL WARMING, open his permissions! NBC condemns all censorship! etc.

Lock the door, reporters go away! Get that satellite van out of my driveway!

Gotta go. LB

Posted by RagnCajn (Member # 879) on December 24, 2009, 01:37 PM:

LOL, I like eggnog too.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 24, 2009, 02:10 PM:

You would think so, but no, not a drop. I'm just naturally loony.

Besides, I would have guessed that you prefer Snappy Tom over Egg Nog?

Merry Christmas y'all. LB (including you, Ugly)

Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on December 26, 2009, 10:12 AM:

Hope eveyone had a good Christmas. Is anyone coming to the LBL hunt the first weekend of February? Should be a good place to mend fences if need be. [Wink]

Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 26, 2009, 10:22 AM:

I already have a cabin space saved for me James...

Good to know you are still around. You are absolutely right on the "time to mend" issues. I'm looking forward to meeting up with lots of old friends that have slip away over the years.

SeeYa there!

Nikonut

Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on December 26, 2009, 10:35 AM:

No LBL for me, but I do however have a booth at the Predator Expo in Ohio in March. I think Brad Norman is coming up from Oklahoma, Murphy Love will be at my booth selling videos and I am going to try and sell a few archery antelope hunts. I know its a predator expo, but its in conjunction with the Ohio deer and turkey classic so hopefully I can sell some hunts. I guess I'll get to meet some of you "easterners".

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2009, 10:50 AM:

For us stupidos, what does LBL mean?

Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on December 26, 2009, 11:52 AM:

I'm not for sure either LB, but I believe it is an area called the land between the lakes. What lakes, I have no idea.

Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on December 26, 2009, 11:56 AM:

Leonard Buys Lunch?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2009, 12:17 PM:

Buy lunch? I've been known to do that.

Posted by Bopeye (Member # 907) on December 26, 2009, 03:46 PM:

Sounds good Tom.

LBL is the Land Between the Lakes.

The lakes are Lake Barkley and Kentucky Lake.
They are formed off of the Tennessee River.

It is located in the Southwest corner of Kentucky and the middle northwest of Tennessee.

It is a National Forest Area and holds a lot of wildlife, but the coyotes are hard to come by.
Smart little canines that see humans constantly all year long. They hear a truck stop and they vanish like a fart in a whirlwind.
Been doing this hunt since '02 or '03. Not sure which, but it is fun gathering.

BTW, Easterners are not all the same. Just ask a New York easterner and then ask an Alabama easterner. [Big Grin]

They had a little spat awhile back and some still ain't got over it. [Wink]

Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on December 27, 2009, 01:41 PM:

Land Between the Lakes = 170,000 acres spanning the Kentucky and Tennessee border.

http://www.lbl.org/Home.html

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