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yotedog
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posted March 06, 2007 09:06 PM
I am getting a new gun (6mm) but all i can find it in is the rugar nothing agianst them i have 4 of them but want something different something under 7lbs anybody have any ideas
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Leonard
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posted March 06, 2007 09:51 PM
As of last year, I think Remington made one, but I don't recall which version of Model 700? Their website is a mess, but I think you can at least order one from the custom shop, if there is no hurry?
Good hunting. LB
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csmithers
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posted March 08, 2007 05:56 PM
Dakota has some 6mm's upwards of 3 grand. Remington700 Varmint in 6mm as well for quite a bit less scratch.
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coyotehombre
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posted March 08, 2007 06:48 PM
Not to highjack this thread, but I have really been pondering a 22-6mm.
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TA17Rem
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posted March 08, 2007 09:58 PM
Nice flat shooting round, but it mite be too much of a good thing. If you are not saveing the fur then go for it, and while youre at it have a Kenton BDC dial installed on the scope so you can take advantage of its long range.
I have been useing a 22-250 ackley with a 52 gr.A-max, its not badd on the fur and its good out to 750-800 yds..
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Leonard
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posted March 08, 2007 10:57 PM
I say no to a 22/6mm, if it's based on the 6mm Remington. Impractical barrel burner. Hard to beat a 22-250 Ackley or maybe a necked 243 of some sort?
Good hunting. LB
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Rich
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posted March 09, 2007 06:10 AM
Now that 55 grain bullets are available for 6mm or .243, I think it would be a mistake to neck down a 6mm anything to accept a .224 bullet.
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JeremyKS
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posted March 09, 2007 07:55 AM
TA, do you have a kenton BDC knob on a gun? I have been wanting to try one out.
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coyote whacker
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posted March 09, 2007 12:25 PM
The stoney point BDC's are nice and cheaper than those from Kenton, a little rifle range practice and you can have them dialed in.
I wanted to get one for my Burris scope but it doesn't fit the newer scopes, looking at my load data I think the bal plex retical will be darn close with the load I chose and there drop estimates for the retical lines.
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JoeF
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posted March 09, 2007 02:16 PM
I have two 243's that absolutely will not handle either the 58 or 65 gr V-Maxes. 70 and above, fine.
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Ron
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posted March 09, 2007 03:34 PM
I've got an old model 7 in 6mm that a buddy of mine bought new in 83. My gunsmith is going to screw on a 6mm Remington 1 in 10 Lilja #2 and finish a Hightech stock for it.
I bought a 2X7 compact Leupold vari-x II scope for it.
Mine shot the 70 grain balistic tips hand loads very well with the factory barrel on it.
The factory barrel was only 18 1/2".
The BT's were not real fast but they worked real good for coyotes. I chronographed my 70 grain BT hand loads at around 3200 fps.
I am going to have the new Lilja barrel finished at probably 22".
I dont Know how much this rifle will weigh when its finished but it should be fairly light. It might go under 7 lbs.
I usually use a sporter weight model 700 short action in 22-250 for coyotes. It has an HS Precision stock and a Leupold Vari X III 4X14 scope on it. Its not the lightest rifle around but it works fine and I've killed a gang of dogs with it. The model 7 should be quite a bit lighter. I hope.
I am planning on loading the 70 grain BT's for the new barrel and will also try the 60 grain Sierra HP's. I dont save fur.
You could find a used short model 700 or a model 7 and have a nice light custom built if you wanted.
Anyway, good luck, Ron
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TA17Rem
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posted March 09, 2007 05:11 PM
Jeremy: I use the Kenton BDC dial on my 17 rem with 1-9" and i have one on my 22-250 ackley. Both dials have been calabrated for the two cartridges. Kenton takes youre load info and runs it through the ballistic calculater and that determans where they put the marks (numbers).
Once they are zeroed in all you do is dial in the distance you are going to shoot and thats it.
I have tested mine out to 600 and 700 yards in both guns and it puts you in the kill zone of a coyote.. I plan on getting two more dials one for my 17 pred. when ever it gets done and one for my AR-15 in 223. The ballistics of the 223 really stink, but by useing a BDC dial and a 75 gr. bullet i will be able to bring it back to life.
The numbers on dial are real easey to read and it only takes a second to change the setting....
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JeremyKS
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posted March 09, 2007 05:35 PM
I have looked at their website, did you just send them your bullet info or did you figure drop at each yardage by shooting. I was thinking that it would be much more accurate if I sent them the drop figures instead of just having them run it through their calculator. Have you noticed lots of difference in your POI due to temp. and elevation changes?
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TA17Rem
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posted March 09, 2007 05:52 PM
Jeremy: Yes it would be better if you sent the bullet drop info instead. by doing that it well be more accurate past 700 yards. My drop figures are for shooting in a temp. range around 32 degrees. On another note the BDC is not 100 % perfect, the shooter has to do his part to make it work. If i shoot and miss at least i'm in the ball park and by turning the dial a click or to well put you on the target. Its a whole lot better than trying to guess youre hold over...
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JeremyKS
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posted March 09, 2007 06:16 PM
I agree it has to better than guessing, and I would think lots faster than looking at a chart and counting clicks.
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Ron
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posted March 09, 2007 07:31 PM
Wow, dont know too many people that are shooting .17's and .224's at 7 and 800 yards!
I run my bullet and velocity through a ballistics program and then put that trajectory to the test out at the range.
If I am going to sleaze some coyotes out in a big pasture I will use my Leica and to get a distance on the coyote then I just use points on my duplex that I have already established at the range arc tham out there.
I rarely shoot at targets beyond 350 to 400 yards with anything less than a 6mm.
My longest shot on a coyote was 354 yards with a 40 grain V-Max through my 22-250. I checked the range on the dog with my range finder before the shot.
I'd like to see somebody shoot dogs at 700 and 800 yards with any .17 or .224 and score consistant hits at those ranges with those light calibers.
I'm not doubting anyone, just havnt seen it myself. Ron
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TA17Rem
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posted March 09, 2007 08:41 PM
Ron; The farthest i have taken a coyote with the 17 rem is 550 yds. head shot. Yes 600 yds or more would be pushing the 17,i have'nt had the opertunity yet to shoot a coyote at any farther distance, but i would like to try and see what happens. There is a guy on Saubier . com who has used a 17 rem out to a 1000 yds on paper targets and water jugs, he has a article on the 17 cal. good read...
Now the 22-250 ackley i would'nt be affraid to push it to 800-900 yds on a coyote. You have to remember that here where i live i can see for miles and there is'nt much cover for a coyote to hide in if the shot goes bad.. I took a red fox with the ackley a couple years ago at 767 yards. It took me 4-5 shots, i had to walk the bullet in, and once i got to the distance of the fox i had to walk it into the wind and then over he went..
Alot of gun writers say that a 17 cal is a 350 yard cartridge and the 22-250 ackley is a 600 yd cartridge, i say they are full of it..
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