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Topic: Do we all know elevation compensation?
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Doggitter
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posted July 24, 2005 10:22 AM
Shooting downhill and uphill, which do you hold high and which do you hold low for bullet drop? Yes, this is a test. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Loren.
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Tim Behle
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posted July 24, 2005 10:51 AM
I've never practiced shooting up hill. But I know that when shooting down hill, at a steep angle, the bullet will hit high. But inside of 300 yards, it doesn't shift enough ( In my rifles ) to worry about.
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Leonard
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posted July 24, 2005 11:18 AM
Cat hunters are always shooting uphill. Way uphill. Don't need much, if any holdover?
Good hunting. LB
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Lonny
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posted July 24, 2005 11:55 AM
Uphill or downhill the impact will be the same. Don't aim high with either.
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Cal Taylor
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posted July 24, 2005 01:27 PM
If there is much angle you will shoot a little high down hill AND uphill.
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Az-Hunter
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posted July 24, 2005 02:16 PM
The uphill/downhill myth still clings on doesn't it:) It takes a real steep angle to cause much if any difference in bullet impact, much greater an angle than most of us encounter in our hunting.
The key is, the actual linear distance the bullet travels, regardless of uphill or downhill.
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Melvin
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posted July 24, 2005 02:21 PM
You beat me to the punch,Cal.you're correct.
Ask an experienced bow hunter that question.
[ July 24, 2005, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: Melvin ]
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Cal Taylor
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posted July 24, 2005 03:50 PM
AZ,
You'll notice I said a little high. I don't notice alot of difference unless the angle is pretty severe or the shot is pretty long. But a 40 yard bow shot it will make some difference if you are shooting up or down much. Sneaking from above on bedded mule deer with a bow the angles can get pretty tricky. I hate to admit but I've learned that one by experience a couple of times ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Az-Hunter
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posted July 24, 2005 04:19 PM
You got that right Cal.....with a bow, it's greatly exaggerated, I was of course referring to rifle shooting only.
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Dogleg
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posted July 24, 2005 05:04 PM
What's a "Hill" ?????? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Doggitter
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posted July 24, 2005 10:44 PM
Good deal. That was a member qualification question. Gues the fella was maybe right, we have a REASON to be pompuss asis.
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brad h
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posted July 25, 2005 03:00 AM
Dogleg
I looked around to find some pics of some sharp angle, high/low elevation kills/stands I've made but they must be on the deceased hard drive.
I know what you mean though. It's a damn shame I can't come up there to hunt in Saskatchewan. I've done pretty well working working the flatlands, North Dakoth stubble fields most particularly.
Maybe we can get together in Alberta this season.
Brad
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Dogleg
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posted July 25, 2005 09:14 AM
Brad,
I get a lot of shots from riverbanks and such, but the angles are too shallow to matter. The elevation is welcomed for visibility though. Sask isn't famous for hills.Alberta might happen.
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Norm
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posted July 25, 2005 09:47 AM
I don't know about rifles so much, but the biggest challenge for archers is actually judging the distance... I have seen many treestand hunters miss there down hill target... why... they measure the hypotenuse of the right triangle versus the base of the right triangle... I have to assume the same applies with other uphill and down hill situations
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Leonard
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posted July 25, 2005 10:10 AM
Actually, I was serious about shooting bobcat at extreme uphill angles. I did a lot of that in Nevada, driving up dead end mine roads. The cats are up there, always up high, and the angles are approaching ridiculous. Parts of Utah can be that way, as well. Hold dead on, on most of them.
Good hunting. LB
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Doggitter
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posted July 25, 2005 06:38 PM
Norm, another good one to watch with archers is the really short shots. Most will put the 20 yard pin on and blow it bad. My 20 is dead on at 10 also. I watched once while at a shoot where they had a target that you could stretch and touch with your arrow. I'll bet 95% of the shooters missed that shot bad.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 25, 2005 07:30 PM
Doggitter; The next time you run into one of those 2 yard archery shots, try holding for about 35 to 40 yards. At that distance, it's all about the measurement between your anchor & your eye.
Valley West Archers used to have a point blank shot as one of the novelty tournement targets, and it was like you said.....most shooters didn't have a clue how to aim it.
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