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Topic: Reloading Tools ?
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LKVL
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posted August 04, 2003 08:04 PM
After seeing the acuracy Rich Higgins was getting with the rounds he loaded, There is know comparison between them and factory loads. So my question is..........What tools (without going through great expense)do I need to load my own ammo???? I shoot a Remington .220 Swift.
Thanx
[ August 04, 2003, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: LKVL ]
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Tim Behle
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posted August 04, 2003 08:41 PM
If you don't think you will ever get into loading the Magnum rifles, a Lee kit will serve you fine. If a magnum may be in your reloading future, spend the few extra dollars now and get the RCBS kit.
Lee neck dies are found at a lot of Benchrest matches, but there a lot of good ones out there, not counting some great customs.
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Jack Roberts
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posted August 04, 2003 09:01 PM
LKVL
You may as well spring for the better equipment now. If you go the cheap route, you will be dissatisfied and either give up reloading or toss the cheap stuff and buy the better.
Unless you will be shooting many hundreds of rounds, you will not save money by reloading.
Having complete control over your bullet, powder, cases, and primer selections, makes it all worth while even if you do not shoot hugh numbers of rounds.
Jack
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LKVL
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posted August 04, 2003 09:18 PM
Tim..... what is in a kit? I have to tell you that I know nothing about reloading.
Jack ...I'm only looking to improve acuracy. And not so much as to saving money on rounds. Although I am paying over $1 per round as it is. I only use the rifle for shooting predators and can say that it I've had times where it cost over five dollars to kill a coyote ![[Frown]](frown.gif) . Shooting a swift is expensive.
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Tim Behle
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posted August 04, 2003 09:22 PM
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Unless you will be shooting many hundreds of rounds, you will not save money by reloading.
Jack,
I've got to ask, is there any way you can convince my wife of this? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I just finished a pound of Retumbo I opened five days ago. Thankfully I had three more of the same lot sitting on the bench.
I don't think I'll ever save a dime reloading, but I will shoot a lot more accurately!
Tim
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LKVL,
Looks like we were typing at the same time. Both Lee and RCBS sell "kits" they contain just about everything you need to get started. Except what you need for a specific caliber. The dies, powder, primers, bullets and brass, you have to buy separate. If you do a lot of shooting, or think there is a good chance you might, once an unlimited supply of custom ammo becomes available, go with the RCBS kit.
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Leonard
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posted August 05, 2003 04:06 PM
After close to forty years, I haven't saved a dime, reloading. Rather, it's much cheaper to buy factory ammunition. So, forget that angle.
You will probably see improved accuracy.
And, you can use components that allow you to get higher velocity, use suitable bullets for the mission at hand.
Chances are that you will know your ballistic coefficients, your drop charts and your downrange hold over, in inches, and remaining velocity at any given range; reasonable range, at least.
Folks that shoot factory ammo usually don't know this stuff, and they are at the mercy of the manufacturer, when you go to replace a good shooting box, or lot.....if they can find it.
In short, the handloader is more knowledgeable, and knows what he wants from his cartridges. (generally speaking, of course)
A lot of good arguments in favor of going to the trouble to load your own.
Good hunting. LB
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Terry Hunter
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posted August 05, 2003 04:28 PM
I agree with Leonard you will not save money reloading in fact it will cost you money.If you start reloading buy good equipment at the start.
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Barry
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posted August 05, 2003 06:44 PM
With a 220-swift,a good case trimmer is a must.Dont forget to keep good records.
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Richard Grantham
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posted August 05, 2003 06:59 PM
As one of the more senior member ( age wise) let me stick in my 2 cents worth. GO FOR IT!!! I've handloaded every caliber/gun I ever owned, you won't save money but you will shoot several times as much for the same buck. Even though I rate RCBS in the same catagory as Leupold scopes- I have to admit Lee makes very good equipment at half the price, I like lee dies and their cheap little powder measure is much more accurate than any other brand other than old Belding and Mulls.
The Lee hand loader sells for about $10-15 bucks on ebay and will reload shells good as more expensive equipment- just slow. I take one to range but use a powder scale rather than the dipper that comes with kit, reload 3-5 rounds, shoot, evaulate and reload another 3-5 rounds changing loads/bullets/powder, very enjoyable and really shows what load shoots best in Your rifle.
Richard Grantham ps I'm a 1934 model!!!
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LKVL
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posted August 06, 2003 09:59 AM
Thanx for the info...... The goal here isn't about saving money per round, that's not really a factor when I figure in the cost of pursuing coyotes whether it trapping or calling. What I'm really looking for is acuracy and with the price of coyotes going up, to reduce fur damage.
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Leonard
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posted August 06, 2003 06:23 PM
Hey, no problem, you have the right perspective. Bullet choices are important, accuracy is important, but that may or may not happen, based on the quality of your barrel. Chances are, it won't be worse, but you may not really see the difference. Most people will, so it's worth the effort.
As far as saving money, you have the proper attitude, it's one of the least expensive items you use, and actual shots on game will not break you, even five dollars a piece. But, you can nod your head at those folks that bring up the big "savings" you realize by "reloading". I don't particularly like the term: "reloading". Most people properly call it handloading.
If the wife buys that argument; go along with it. You never know? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good luck, LB
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