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Woodworker
PAKMAN
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posted February 04, 2003 01:53 AM
Hey all, just found this site and am new to Coyote hunting. I have a rifle/load question: My current baby, besides my .22, is my .30-06 and it is quite accurate with the Winchester Super-X 165gr PSP load I am shooting. How much pelt damage would the 165 grain do? I'm sure it'll do quite a bit of damage if I punch it through the shoulders, but a heart/lung shot should most likely through and through with minimal expansion wouldn't you think?
BTW I do plan on a dedicated varmint rig at some point, most likely a .243, but the -06 is it for now.
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Dawgkilla
Knows what it's all about
Member # 26
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posted February 04, 2003 07:17 AM
I have a bud that shoots dawgs with his .300 Win Mag on occasion and it tends to zip through without TOO much damage and the coyotes don't get up.
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Leonard
HMFIC
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posted February 04, 2003 09:04 AM
First, welcome to the New Huntmasters, Woody.
I don't have a lot of experience with 165 grain bullets on predators, and that is strictly with the Hornady flat base spire point.
Damage is hard to describe because of the wide difference in range, angle of presentation, size, etc. I actually lost one coyote, about 250, as I recall? Knocked him down but he got up and I never caught up to him close enough for another shot. A couple others fussed around before dying, and one cat was shredded.
Conclusions? Risky. I think I'd drop down to 150 grain bullets, if I had to do a lot of hunting with an '06. Of course, 180 grains may be the way to go? Most guys that were forced to use an '06 decide to move into something a little more appropriate, before too long.
Good hunting. LB
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Barry
Knows what it's all about
Member # 34
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posted February 04, 2003 06:38 PM
If all I owned was a 50BMG I'd take it before I stayed at home.Yea if you hit bone you'll have a mess but you wont have to track him far.If you reload I'd recommend the Nosler 125gr.If not shoot and ask questions later.A needle and thread is still a good bargain.
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Woodworker
PAKMAN
Member # 85
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posted February 05, 2003 12:29 AM
Thanks guys ![[Smile]](smile.gif) I'll try the 165's for now, but yeah, I will be getting a more suitable rifle... HOPEFULLY before that really hot place gets really, really cold ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
Member # 72
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posted February 20, 2003 01:17 AM
Lemme e-mail this to brother, Redrider. He's got a couple good light loads for the 06 that shouldn't be too mean.
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Redrider
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Member # 79
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posted February 20, 2003 12:39 PM
One of my reasons for packing my 06 to the coyote grounds is that I really love that particular rifle. My uncle gave it to me on his death bed, so it's more than just special. You have to weigh that with fur damage and make an internal decision I guess.
Several questions/thoughts:
1. Do you reload?
2. Maybe your rifle will shoot various weights accurately. Mine does very well with Rem 125 SP
or 150 or 165 or 180. You get the idea.
3. What do you plan on doing with the coyote once you get one? I just took the tail off my first and only one, I hit it in the spine with a 222 shooting 50g. V-Max and made a fist sized hole. Fur damage is still possible wiht "varmint rigs" also.
4. Reduced loads are easier on the shoulder, not sure if fur damage is reduced also.
5. I agree that a partition style bullet is your best bet against blowing them in half.
6. I shot two whitetails with Sierra 165g. HPBT. Hit one in the neck at 35 yards, Dad said, "Jeez, you almost decappitated the poor thing." The other clipped its back in half with a good sized exit hole. Fur damage will happen, but I won't use HPBT's next time.
Just some thoughts, hope they help some. Keep us informed.
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