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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 14, 2010, 08:48 PM:
Well, boys and girls. I'm still smarting by Dan, (the man)'s advice to read the instructions.
I don't know the problem, but my $800 machine didn't make a single stand on this last trip. Luckily, there was a cell tower somewhere and I spent the better part of an hour talking to a guy named Joe, in the tech assistance department.
He walked me through the whole enchilada, without solution. Ultimately, he suggested sending me a new unit, to arrive before I leave for Canada, Friday.
Fine, so (since I didn't bring my Minaska) I was forced to hand call. Not that I mind, but this was the debut of my high dollar machine, as it were.
So, very high marks to their Tech Support, which everybody says is excellent. I can't fault them on that score.
But, we have to remember that this thing has caused me problems since day one. I thought a replacement of the remote TX500 would solve my problems, but according to them, they suspect the volatle memory, at this point, since it does not maintain the presets from one turn on to the next.
That's the least of my worries since I was able to play it manually by scrolling to a sound and hitting the top knob. But, it quit completely with the battery light blinking which should indicate a dead battery, but this was not the case. It played a few times like a stuck cassette, sound, no sound, sound, no sound. Very short intervals, however.
Anyway, I could program the presets 'til the cows come home, and they wouldn't last, next time I turned the TX500 on, no presets.
One thing about the operating manual, (which I had with me, along with three sets of fully charged batteries) is any kind of
troubleshooting guide, whatsoever.
I am not dumping on Foxpro here. It's always possible to have a bug in electronics. Just like the current Administration HM deals in TRANSPARENCY. Example, my Garmin GPS quit working on me twice, driving home. I'm taking that sucker back, too!
Good hunting. LB
[ December 14, 2010, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 14, 2010, 08:56 PM:
I suppose you could borrow my WT for the trip. Its got exspeariance.. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on December 14, 2010, 09:09 PM:
I feel for you LB, I had some issues with my former FX3. I sent it back, and sent it back, and sent it back, and a few more times.
Got a CS24, last trip to AZ land, and the display were the sounds names are supposed to be didn't show any sounds. It showed Volume and sound #, but not the names. Luckily it still worked, and my presets were still there.
Got it all figured out now and it is working again.
Too bad the WT's are not programmable. From what I hear, they do seem to work. TA seems to like his.
[ December 14, 2010, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 14, 2010, 09:09 PM:
Thanks for the offer, Tim. I think the sloppy bucket would be the biggest problem. I only wear a 7 &1/2.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 14, 2010, 09:41 PM:
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Thanks for the offer, Tim. I think the sloppy bucket would be the biggest problem. I only wear a 7 &1/2.
I think you got me mixed up with Kelly. I just hold it with my left hand...
If you change youre mind just holler. Oh I let Roede use it a few years back, if I remember correctly he took 2nd or 3rd in a contest with it..
Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on December 14, 2010, 10:59 PM:
If you drive to Canada, via Spokane, you are more than welcome to borrow my CS-24L. No problems so far.
Of course I haven't taken the back off of it. I think that was your demise. Maybe it got sick from the ashesive you used to glue the carpet to it. I can't wait until they see that at Foxpro. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 14, 2010, 11:31 PM:
They won't see it, I'm switching the back part and keeping my carpeted bell.
Flying up. LB
edit: yeah, it got messed up from sniffing glue. Why can't I figure these things out?
[ December 14, 2010, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by tawnoper (Member # 497) on December 15, 2010, 07:53 AM:
800 bucks for a caller!? Really?
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on December 15, 2010, 07:56 AM:
I'd lend you mine except with your luck you'd probably break the damn thing.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 15, 2010, 01:26 PM:
Dan should've been more thoughtful instead of telling you to read the instructions.
I swear e-callers are what they use in hell.
My CS24 has worked perfectly since I got the charging issues out of the way and the other day, I snuck in, got set up and nothing. Wound up walking back out to it, turning it off and taking the batteries out of my remote, then it all worked fine.
Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on December 15, 2010, 01:52 PM:
Yeh tim we all know it was your caller that got R Rhode a top 3 position in a calling contest LOL. Never mind knowing anything about calling, all we need is Tim's WT and we are all pro's at callin coyotes LOL.
FWIW I know a few that have had issues with ther mighty ATOM's as well
[ December 15, 2010, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: coyote whacker ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 15, 2010, 02:02 PM:
Yeah, Tom. That's what I got right now. I had a sudden thought and tried my new CS24L about 30 minutes ago. It was working like nothing ever happened, but it still never heard of "presets".
Good hunting. LB
PS, I hope my new one, they didn't forget to install the Foxbang?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 15, 2010, 02:57 PM:
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Yeh tim we all know it was your caller that got R Rhode a top 3 position in a calling contest LOL. Never mind knowing anything about calling, all we need is Tim's WT and we are all pro's at callin coyotes LOL.
Randy already had a WT, mine was just easier to get around with...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 16, 2010, 11:45 AM:
Well, I have not seen the new replacement, yet? Maybe I should call?
Dan, I might need you to drive up and loan me yours? I'll buy you a DoubleDouble? Yum!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on December 16, 2010, 03:04 PM:
Randy already had a WT, mine was just easier to get around with...
Why is yours on wheels
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 16, 2010, 06:51 PM:
Its mounted right to the truck. Just park on the shoulder of the road and walk out aways and start calling.. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Actualy Randy had the old model and said it would suck trying to drag it around in snow over 3' deep so I borrowed my newer model to him..
[ December 16, 2010, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on December 17, 2010, 12:05 PM:
all you have to do is put them in a back pack problem solved, I think he wanted to test your mighty atom before he made the purchase!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 17, 2010, 02:18 PM:
Okay, I'm waiting at gate 75A, to Denver. My new CS24L was at the front door late in the afternoon. I had stuff to do and got around to opening the box much later in the evening.
Drove me nuts! Nothing worked. I switched remotes and the rear cover with the electronics in it, back and forth with the new and old machine. I mean, I was getting pissed when I noticed that the new TX500 had a 7 in the first space on the bottom line. So, I got into the set up and changed the channel to 15 and suddenly, it was working.
They already entered all my sounds, (I think, but didn't scroll through everything, just assuming they got it right) And, they did remember to program the Foxbang feature. And, they even included two battery pouches and two plug in recepticles, one on each side. Apparently, it works with both plugged in or either plugged in? Kinda nice to put the ports on either side in a protected location. MY original, it was more near the rear of the unit and in bouncing around in the back a little, it damaged the jack where it was sticking out like a sore thumb. So, where they are both located now, on opposite sides, I think I can leave them plugged in or not, and they shouldn't be subjected to rolling against something and damaging the plug portion. Looks to be a good change, and I understand that some are hardwired, and doesn't apply, but for those that request the modification, I think it is worthwhile.
Anyway, I'm in group two and will be boarding in 30 minutes, or so?
I will have an hour on the ground in Denver, and I don't know how far the walk will be, but in that terminal, it could be a mile, or more. Saskatoon weather, I hear it just snowed pretty good and I didn't bring my snowshoes. Deal with it, Boski.
Good hunting LB
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 17, 2010, 03:23 PM:
Wishing you have a safe and fun trip Leonard!
Hope you remembered a camera and take lots of pictures!
I'm pretty sure us okies can keep your site up and running!
Good luck!!!!
Nikonut
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 17, 2010, 04:20 PM:
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all you have to do is put them in a back pack problem solved, I think he wanted to test your mighty atom before he made the purchase!
Yes he could of done that but I think he was more concerned about the total weight, mine is much lighter.. By the way I don't have a Atom caller, I have the 2030 magnum..
Edit to add: Leonard have a good one and stay away from the ca-nooks, child support is plenty high up that way..
[ December 17, 2010, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 18, 2010, 08:39 AM:
Yeah, I'm hearing all about it!
I'm having my first cup of coffee, maybe get out in a while. These canuks have an accent, but I'm learning to read lips!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 18, 2010, 05:41 PM:
Leonard,
It sounds like they set your mega CS-24 up like mine with the dual jacks. You'll get a ton of run-time with two battery packs going. I think my CS-24 was the first to have those jacks on that TOA speaker cap. I couldn't deal with having a mandatory wire sticking out that could easily snag and snap in the cold. Since then, FoxPro has also made me some super heavy duty arctic grade wires and 90 degree plugs for mine. It's the toughest caller out there. This is mine running the 14.8volt Li-Ion battery pack. The thing runs forever as is in -40ºF and colder.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on December 18, 2010, 08:14 PM:
Looking fine, Wookie, pal of mine. That new setup on the wiring and 90 degree jacks ought to be perfect for the kind of weather you hunt. Now let's see some of those arctic critters, maybe that big male lynx who was mate to the nice female you got last winter.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 18, 2010, 09:00 PM:
Won't moister get into those jacks and short out the caller???? Then there is plugging in and unplugging and just vibrations which will wear out the contact points or keep from touching all the time.. I'd say its a even trade or couldbe worse..
On my older Dennis Kirk caller It has a place to plug in the cassette player after some time the contact points in the plug got to the point they did'nt always make contact so you had to wiggle the plug from time to time or replace it..
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 18, 2010, 10:33 PM:
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Won't moister get into those jacks and short out the caller???? Then there is plugging in and unplugging and just vibrations which will wear out the contact points or keep from touching all the time.. I'd say its a even trade or couldbe worse..
That's a valid point Tim but I don't think it will be a problem, wouldn't be as likely as breaking those 9volt battery style clips. A little silicon rubber caulking could be used to seal the jack assembly from inside the cap and if one did eventually wear out it would cost less than $10 to replace both jacks. That's a nice setup in my opinion! I like the snow camo job, too! Excellent!
Nikonut
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 18, 2010, 11:43 PM:
TA,
Not a problem at all with the jacks getting moisture in them. I have a cap for my extra jack when I'm not using it either way. My callers jacks (AUX & External Speaker) are always packed with snow and ice and it hasn't failed me yet. The thing is built like a tank.
There's no even trade or worst in this case, the thing is the best caller for cold weather hunting, PERIOD. The wires on the WT's crack and break at -40ºF, both the wire to the 10AA battery pack and the antenna wire. If you pamper them and don't rotate the antenna up in the cold, it will be alright, but the second you even think of putting that antenna up at -40ºF....kiss anything beyond 15 yard remote range bye bye.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on December 19, 2010, 07:15 AM:
Leonard, you can leave both packs plugged in and you just have a super 10aa battery pack, a bigger reservoir of power so to speak. Not having to fool with the snap on caps on the battery pack is a big plus too when charging. Just pull one plug at a time and plug it into your smart charger. Foxpro is pretty smart in listening to the customers and doing what it takes to improve an already great caller. If it gets cold enough to really cause you problems, just use the 10 true presets. Ten one button clicks to access your ten preprogrammed sounds, with Foxbang working automatically when you shoot. Hell, you can do that with mittens on.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 19, 2010, 07:56 AM:
Snow has already got in the recepticals, had to blow it out. I'm jealous of those 40 degree plugs. My host has a mighty atom with lithium batttery.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 19, 2010, 05:28 PM:
Leonard,
Lithium's are the way to go in the cold. That's what I have wrapped under that camo form tape on my CS-24. If snow is getting to be a real problem in the jack openings, just stick some good 3M electrical tape over them, it'll stay put for the hunt.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2010, 07:22 PM:
I thought I could solve the snow problem by leaving them plugged in. Yes, worked fine, but while brush busting, the loop of wire snagged on something and pulled the wire out of the plug. Last night, I did a hasty repair, which didn't work. Fortunately, I had two. So, all day, I coiled the wire and folded the cover down on top and was very careful about snow.
Anyway, the unit isn't bulletproof, I need to baby it a little. Watching my buddy refer to his sheet of paper to select a certain sound, while using a stopwatch, I can tell you that having the screen display is a plus, and so is the countdown feature.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 22, 2010, 07:37 AM:
Leonard,
That's why you need that 90 degree fitting and heavy duty wires. You'd have to try to snag that thing in the brush. Glad to hear that thing is working for you. How cold is it there? I was out at -35ºF all night Friday and the CS-24 performed like a champ. With the neoprene cover on the TX-500 and a large handwarmer stuffed between the cover and remote, the LCD screen worked perfect.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2010, 08:35 AM:
Well, I don't have any of that. The temperature has been ranging, whenever I have been in the truck, and noticed, from +8 to -8.
Partner actually had a shot at a woof. It was a prayer, but it was a shot. Other than that, not a whole lot of sign. The snow is just not real good for holding tracks, either. It's fluffy and the edges cave in on the print in snow that seems to range from maybe 8" to a foot and a half.
Saw four moose yesterday, real close, less than 25 yards, in a small clearing. When my partner walked closer and took a picture, they had enough and took off through the trees. Seeing a lot of maggpies and some ravens. Most of the cattle is in yards and being fed. A lot of roads have not been traveled since snowfall, and we are in a Ford, so we need to be real careful. lol
Good hunting. LB
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on December 23, 2010, 06:12 PM:
My FX3 quit on me last week, it would not turn on. Called Foxpro and talked to Scott about the problem. Had to send it in for repair. Not a good time for equipment failure in the middle of the season. It arrived on Monday and they shipped my repaired unit the next day. How's that for service Boy's!
I should buy a second machine for back up and whatever. Looking hard at the CS 24. Why the $800.00 price tag? If I had your money LB, I'd just buy it!
Gary
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 23, 2010, 08:06 PM:
Gary, the foxbang is an $85 option. Yeah, it comes to somewhere around $800.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 24, 2010, 09:24 AM:
The standard CS24 is $500
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on December 24, 2010, 01:29 PM:
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The standard CS24 is $500
That might be good enough for an Okie but Leonard is from Californiland....
You know, home for all the bells and whistles, chrome and fancy hubcaps, custom paint and tuck'n'rollie interior!
Does "FoxBang" even work? Wouldn't remote control "Claymore mines" be more effective?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 24, 2010, 03:05 PM:
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Does "FoxBang" even work? Wouldn't remote control "Claymore mines" be more effective?
I was thinking maybe a series of bounching betty's with a claymore for the finishing touch..
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on December 24, 2010, 04:05 PM:
Nikonut, I can assure you that Foxbang works as slick as snot on the proverbial doorknob. It is a real asset when you have a pair or multiples to not have to do anything to enable it.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on December 24, 2010, 07:34 PM:
Seriously though, what is the realistic value of a "call back" sound, once the shooting starts?
In light of Scott's recent discussion one has to wonder if this technique (combined with reproduced sounds) might reinforce the negative/educational aspect of the e-caller.
$85... to make sure those coyotes, left behind, are fully educated. lol
Krusty 
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 24, 2010, 09:32 PM:
FoxBang definitely works, even at -40ºF (ambient), none of this windchill stuff. None of the double button WT pushing needed either. I'd think that guys who get on the mouth call with the coyote distress, Ky-Yi's, etc after the missed shot are teaching them just as much as an e-caller in that scenario. If we just killed every one that came in, none of them would go back to the pack with lessons learned.
Merry Christmas you guys on the East Coast!
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on December 24, 2010, 10:35 PM:
Wook,
I'm sort of inclined to agree... Ki yi's associated with the sound of the shot imply shooting is bad for coyotes.
What if the shots were (like they often are) connected with prey distress sounds?
I know there are places where a shot draws bears, since they've grown accustomed to the association of gut piles and shots.
Krusty
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 24, 2010, 11:42 PM:
Krusty,
The bears of Kodiak are well versed in knowing that a rifle shot means potential deer or gutpile. I've had several friends who have hunted there and they work quickly to get the deer down the mountains and back to camp ASAP.
I'd agree that any sound associated with a gunshot will equate to call shy coyotes. It'd basically be like taking Pavlov's dog and smacking him every time the bell rang. I don't think that dog would be coming around many times for that bell.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 25, 2010, 07:01 AM:
I'm not really buying that, Wookie. (Merry Christmas from Upland)
Can't count the number of times coyotes approach a stand after a shot has been fired. Brown bears and dead deer is one thing, but I have a problem with coyotes associating and linking events, thus teaching the young'uns. They are smart, but I'm not giving them credit for logic.
Good hunting.
PS first time, Foxbang didn't work. Changed to lowest setting, risk setting it off accidentally; can't see how that could happen, in real life situations? Was told, it worked on another occasion. I never activated it up north. The hunting is different, they stand at the edge of the woods until you spot them. Not much romping through the snowdrifts to approach a call.
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 25, 2010, 10:36 AM:
Leonard,
Merry Christmas from the North Country (I think I'm still north of you anyways).
I though the YOY were the easy pickings of the bunch, due to them not knowing the "ropes" or having learned any bad experiences? You guys get to see and call more coyotes in a year than I'll probably call in 10 years here in the Arctic desert, so learn me up on these critters. Why do coyotes do the things they do, and what do they remember?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 25, 2010, 10:40 AM:
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I'm not really buying that, Wookie. (Merry Christmas from Upland)
Can't count the number of times coyotes approach a stand after a shot has been fired. Brown bears and dead deer is one thing, but I have a problem with coyotes associating and linking events, thus teaching the young'uns. They are smart, but I'm not giving them credit for logic.
Yup +1
We don't have big bears here but we have crows that will do the same. I shot a coyote the other day and the crows started to move in before we could retrieve it. Got it on vidio..
[ December 25, 2010, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 25, 2010, 12:16 PM:
Merry Christmas Tim, get any new WT's under the Christmas tree? I grabbed a killer deal 2030MS recently just to finish off some of the WT animal sounds I "needed". Did you get Kelly's 2030MS?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 25, 2010, 12:37 PM:
No new WT's yet still have to empty a few things out of the closet first. It will be there when I'm ready.. I did get a few new sounds from Bill though to add to the one's I have. Santa also dropped off a snow gilly suite I may try out later this week along with 2 sets of under armor.
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 25, 2010, 01:52 PM:
Let me know how that Under Armor works out for you. I have some of their cold weather stuff and keep going back to my Icebreaker Wool gear. I think if you're doing lots of walking and can shed or ventilate easily it works good. If you are on a week long trip and laundry isn't available, you might want to burn the stuff, it gets ripe in a hurry, like most synthetics.
Santa brought me a totally custom Gray Wolf Woolens two piece predator winter camo parka, bibs, mitts, and insulated mask. I got it early and tested it out yesterday. I sat out at -30ºF for about an hour and was toasty warm. Their stuff is unlike anything I've ever seen or used, totally custom too with pockets and caller holders all over the place.
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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 25, 2010, 02:05 PM:
If it gets that cold here I have my artic gear to fall back on, but I like to travel lite so I use the clothes that are"nt bulky and heavey and yet keep me warm for the limited time I'm on stand..
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 25, 2010, 02:18 PM:
What does your arctic gear consist of, down parka/pants? That's about the lightest stuff you'll find out there, but definitely not something you want to get wet in.
When I'm out on snow machine trips, I have to always carry a backup outfit, just in case the machine breaks through a river or something of that nature. Making a fire and getting into dry stuff is first priority if that one happens. For that type of trip, I carry a dry-bag with down jacket, extra socks/mitts, wool turtleneck and down pants ready to go. Dump water out of the bunny boots and get ready to hustle.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 25, 2010, 02:34 PM:
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What does your arctic gear consist of, down parka/pants? That's about the lightest stuff you'll find out there, but definitely not something you want to get wet in.
My artic gear is the same stuff the troops up in Alaska use, parka, face mask, bunny pants,mulluks for boots. I don't like the bunny boots to bulky..I also carry a artic sleeping bag in the truck for just incase.
I don't think it matters what you wear if you fall in the drink, wet is wet..
I don't like to be weighted down so I use what ever I can find thats lite and put on in layers, and try to have one layer that is water proof to a degree. Another thing about liter clothes is they will dry faster that the bulky stuff that gets wet. Wool is about the best you can do and works great if rideing around on a snow machine or sitting up in a tree stand but has its disavantages as well as other types of clothing..
I've only fell in the water once in my life time when the temp.s where well below zero and I was lucky my truck was only 150 yds away. The clothing I had on at the time still kept me warm but the outside started to freeze up pretty quick to the point I could hardly move. Lesson learned, stay the hell away from water or thin ice when the temp.s are down..
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 25, 2010, 04:07 PM:
Which troops, the Army or Air Force? Army uses the fleece "bear suit" with the brown poly-pro liners under that. Outside of that they use the old Gore-tex coat for windproof and waterproof features. The shell is nothing to use for calling predators, since it's really noisy, especially if it's cold out. The Air Force uses the insulated pants (greenish/gray) color along with a insulated parka, which typically had a synthetic type ruff on it. The Army was the bunny boot gang and Air Force the MukLuk's with the wool liners. I have some of the MukLuk's that I combine with some Baffin -148ºF (so called) liners. The MukLuk's work excellent, but don't provide much ankle support for any distance type walking, especially in pungee stick & tussock infested areas.
Traveling on waterways (rivers) up here is pretty standard mode of operation. There's no way around not being on ice at some point in time if you want to get to decent calling grounds in the interior. We make Minnesota look like a dessert in the lakes department. With over 3 million lakes and over 50% of the entire United States shoreline, there's simply no way around not being on water. Just gotta plan accordingly and come prepared.
Here's a little Alaska & Minnesota info in case you wanted to know:
http://alaska.org/bigalaska/minnesota.htm
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on December 25, 2010, 05:15 PM:
And it should be noted that the easternmost point in the U.S. is in Alaska... Pochnoi Point, on Sesmipochnoi Island, lies just inside the eastern hemisphere.
The east is west of me, and the west is east? Go figure!
Krusty
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 27, 2010, 08:27 AM:
Very odd indeed to be the Northernmost, Easternmost, and Westernmost state in the US. I know Adak is absolutely miserable from what I've heard from people, so I'd guess Pochnoi Point area would be very similar. Not high on my list of places I need to visit anytime soon. Reading the wikipedia information on Adak says this "the record speed is unknown because the wind ripped the anemometer off of the tower".
That's all I need to know.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 27, 2010, 10:09 AM:
I used insulated Carhart bibs, one pair of thermal long johns and the Canadian white camo, Sorrels w/felt inserts. And, the jacket was the 2X US Field Jacket in Desert beige w liner. Ski gloves didn't cut it, but I had a large pair of leather mittens that worked adequately except the color is orange.
A white "took" completed the ensemble. But, that white camo is great, same set I used four years ago. Weight and bulk is minimal, sewn in instructions say to keep them handy by stuffing in a pocket. I had no problems pulling them on and off with boots on.
Good hunting. LB
this white nylon camo beats the hell out of paint coveralls. IMHO
[ December 27, 2010, 10:12 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM:
Insulated Carharts are daily wear up here, really good stuff and tough too. Most every laborer and carpenter up here lives in the things. Did you get many photos on your trip Leonard? I'd like to see what the country you were calling looked like. How did a typical days hunting go (snowmachines, blinds, drive vehicles to stands)?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 27, 2010, 11:32 AM:
I left my camera charging on the desk; knew I couldn't find it, but unsure where it was?
Partner took a few, said he would email them to me when he could.
Mostly cleared fields and dense stands of mainly stunted poplars with spruce and birch mixed in. Difficult to walk in to. Tried to call them to the edge, never did catch one in the open by more that twenty feet, or so? I don't think they like trudging through the snow any better than I did. They needed a good reason to come out of the woods. Just content to look for a source of the sound, but didn't provoke a closer investigation.
The only animal way out in the open was a large wolf, quite distant. Maybe 600/800 yards? No snowmobiles or we would have had him, for sure. We tried to surround him, but after a couple hours, he just disappeared?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 27, 2010, 11:54 AM:
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No snowmobiles or we would have had him, for sure.
What are the snow machines used for????
quote:
We tried to surround him, but after a couple hours, he just disappeared
Sounds like youre MN. blood is starting to show..
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 27, 2010, 12:19 PM:
Tim,
Up here they use the snowmachines to run down the wolves and get close enough to jump off the thing and take a shot. Kinda like hot rod trucks in Minnesota for chasing coyotes, only on snow.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 27, 2010, 12:29 PM:
Well, it wasn't that bad, but we did try the old end around play and an ambush. I didn't mean run him down with skidoos, but I think it could have been done. Did we want him? You betcha!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 27, 2010, 01:24 PM:
Its ok Leonard I understand too bad alot of others don't... Its great that you or others can get out to different parts of the country and see first hand why things are done a little different than other places..
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Up here they use the snowmachines to run down the wolves and get close enough to jump off the thing and take a shot. Kinda like hot rod trucks in Minnesota for chasing coyotes, only on snow
Thanks;; I thought Mn. was the only place that did that..
[ December 27, 2010, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by TundraWookie (Member # 1044) on December 27, 2010, 02:25 PM:
Nope, it's probably done in more places than AK & MN, except the snowmachines up here probably cost more and go faster than MN pickups. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 27, 2010, 02:36 PM:
Yeah, they use a pickup/tractor hibred, with extra large mudflaps, and earmuffs with red reflectors. They go zero to sixty in sixty. No shit!
Good hunting. LB
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