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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 10, 2016, 03:16 PM:
Hopefully, the conservatives will get it together and support the Republican nominee who would seem to be Trump.
But............
Will the Dems who support that goofy commie Bernie also get behind their nominee and vote for the evil Hildabeast or will they just sit this one out???
Interesting times.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 10, 2016, 04:49 PM:
koko, think about it. This country has twice elected a fucking idiot with zero talent for running the country.
ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE, AMIGO !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 12, 2016, 02:29 PM:
True & true, muy patron.
But .......... o bama had the rock star persona that brought voters out.
The Hildabeast .......... not so much.
What I'm seeing is voters (both parties) who don't like their candidate but are voting AGAINST the other one that they like even less. Nothing new, just more of it this go around.
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on May 13, 2016, 04:53 AM:
Kind of like having to pick between Ebola and Aids, Which one do you want?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 13, 2016, 05:17 AM:
Yeah, that's like my father. He had a serious blood disease and cancer and our small family was kept busy every 55 days donating blood for his transfusions, usually 2-3 units a month. So the reason there was so much pressure on us to donate regularly was because my dad was scared to death of acquiring AIDS from blood donated by strangers.
The whole time, we all gladly participated while wondering why he was so afraid of AIDS when he had at least as serious condition already. To my mind, getting AIDS was the least of his worries....especially since we all know who gets AIDS and how they get it. But, that's another thing. To make "them" feel good about themselves, the whole population becomes scared to death that they will acquire AIDS from normal heterosexual activity.
That's the problem with the Left. Like right now, Obama is worried about transexuals gaining access to little girls restrooms instead of Iran developing nuclear weapons. The son of a bitch aught to be arrested.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 13, 2016, 07:44 AM:
Yeah ^
http://www.ktvb.com/news/education/schools-must-allow-transgender-bathrooms-department-of-education-says/188283576
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on May 13, 2016, 02:33 PM:
with all the seriously fucked up shit happening in our world, this is the garbage that gets airtime?
Makes it really friggin' difficult not to think these types of "non-issues" are thrust into the spotlight just to divert attention away from actually making our world a better place...
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 13, 2016, 02:42 PM:
............or to divert our attention away from those who are succeeding at lowering our country to the lowest common denominator.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 13, 2016, 05:12 PM:
Yeah, like the Bruce Jenner Deal. Didn't ESPN give that dipshit some kind of award ? WTF ?
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 14, 2016, 06:56 AM:
Yeah I think he won some ESPN courage award, over a guy that was a double amputee (both legs) that ran a marathon. I seriously can't believe the direction this country has gone in just the last few years. Shameful
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 14, 2016, 08:18 AM:
Yes, and as proof that he's deranged, (as if we needed more) he is rethinking his conversion. Then, I just heard that whatever they are called? Trans? there is a 41% suicide attempt rate. What does that tell you?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 14, 2016, 11:49 AM:
He's rethinking really ? wife said she watched something about him putting on make up with his daughters.
I refuse to watch that shit.
I hate to even lower myself to talk about this shit. But, it's real & pisses me off. All we can do is educate our kids-grandkids ect. This shit ain't right, try to set examples and be positive, about what's right about being a man and woman.
I need to go spray my pasture & relax ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on May 14, 2016, 12:21 PM:
A question for the group. To the best of my recollection, I have only been aware of a single young man in my youth, that I thought was "odd", meaning at the time, I couldn't articulate it, but I presume he might have been homosexual.
I don't know that, for I never saw him past junior high school age? He was the only boy I ever knew that had a note to keep him from dressing out for PE, and keep him from having to shower with the rest of us. He didn't act effeminate, just an odd kid.
Other than that, all through my younger years, at least thru high school and even first year or so of working at age 19, I never knew a single individual who was homosexual or cross dresser or who "identified" with the opposite sex.
I hear the number, or percent of population wishing to become another sex is between .1-.3 percent, how in the hell is this issue at the forefront of every news piece and on peoples mind if it only represents .3% of the gawd damned population.
My buddies and I grew up always using the term "queer", "faggot" etc, but we never really knew what one was, never laid eyes on one or knew any kids in school how were or displayed that they were?
Just curious if most of the guys here had similar experience growing up, or was it simply because I grew up in rural surroundings?
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on May 14, 2016, 04:30 PM:
Back in the 70's when I went to high school, guys didn't come out of the closet. They probably would have got there asses kicked. As most of you know, that is just how it was then. I had a 36 year High school reunion a while back. Talked to a few guys and gays who are gay/lesbian. Some were no surprise, kind of like finding out Liberace was gay. Some did surprise me. None are cross dressers or trans, as far as I know. I really didn't GAF either way.
Seems the media is forcing this liberal crap down our throats. Seems every show has a biracial couple, or gay people in it.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 14, 2016, 06:11 PM:
No, Vic. I don't think you didn't see any faggots more or less because you lived in a rural area. We had girlle boys, a few here and there and they usually caught hell, we never cut them any slack. And, they didn't have anybody to complain to.
Here's the thing on the .3 or whatever it is, or was? I really believe that the climate in California doesn't breed queers, but I do believe they gravitate out here from Arizona and Idaho and all over the states because they watch TV and consider San Francisco and Hollywood as the Promised Land. They aren't necessarily born here.
Right now, there are many impressional kids that are told, and actually encouraged to explore "alternate lifestyles". It's sick, and things like this Trans? bullshit promoted by Obama just magnifies and confuses kids that already have to grow up without a solid set of family values, or they listen to the propaganda that it's ok to dress like a girl. I thought it was just as well if they kept the "don't ask, don't tell" in the military. Now, the GayLesbo crowd is so "militant" about their lifestyles that the whole "boy/girl" situation is in serious jeopardy.
You guys know that, in college these days, you can't even hit on a girl without getting expelled, or prosecuted. This society is seriously fucked up and getting worse every day.
And, that ignorant cocksucker, Obama is making it worse. Somebody really should shoot that motherfucker. I mean, I don't really mean it, God forbid, but it would be for the best. But I'd hate to see it, and I wouldn't encourage anyone to resort to violence, but, you know. That DICKWEED would have it coming, but I wouldn't like to see it, no way. I mean, it would be tragic and sure, I might piss on his grave, but it would be a damned shame, you know? Repeat, I'd hate to see it and for sure, I'd never consider such a thing. Never. No way. But, would he be missed? Not by me, he wouldn't. I hope nobody takes him out, even though he might richly deserve it. The last thing we need is a National Holiday on his birthday, so don't even think about it, people!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on May 14, 2016, 08:46 PM:
Vic,
Same here. I grew up in a rural area and we had an average of about 50 kids in each grade when I was in high school. Everybody knew which girls put out, who was getting laid, who smoked pot, etc.. but I don't know of a single person close to my age, that I went to high school with, that was bonafide gay.
My younger brother had a kid in his grade who pegged out everyone's gay meter. Which turned out to be correct. The kid moved to Seattle last I knew.
A person being gay doesn't really make a damn bit of difference to me, but you'd think from the way the media portrays it, 10% or more of the population is gay.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 15, 2016, 07:54 AM:
What someone does when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy I couldn't care less about.
However ..........
Isn't the whole purpose of `school` to provide an education and not some whacked-out social experiment ????
Gawd help us if the Hildabeast is allowed to appoint a couple of Supreme Court judges.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 15, 2016, 08:10 AM:
Agreed, Koko. Here's my deal I don't like the gay stuff going on. But, I'll give them credit I guess ?
They are what they are. I had two lesbians living behind me in my old house for years. They minded their business. I minded mine, we had no issues.
This transgender shit, that's being pushed upon us is a whole 'nother animal. You don't know what sex you are, really ? What in the hell is up with that ?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 15, 2016, 10:37 AM:
I think it's really simple. Liberals hate America. Obama has done so much damage, it's pathetic. These ignorant people that voted for Hope and Change have a lot to answer for. He's an evil son of a bitch. Not just a word, he is actually evil incarnate.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on May 15, 2016, 01:15 PM:
I read a little blurb in todays newspaper where in some schools the number of kids coming out as bisexual, transgender, etc... is actually causing some kids to accuse others of not being gay, bi, whatever.
I guess it's the hip thing now to not be straight?
Good grief....
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 15, 2016, 03:04 PM:
The kids are being GROOMED. While we stand around and let it happen. It's the arrogant, egotistical, opinionated, rude and sarcastic! , you call it. They are indoctrinating the entire friggin' population in terms of political correctness.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 17, 2016, 04:43 PM:
When I went to high school in San Leandro, CA there were two guys who came out of the closet in my senior year. Fortunately I was living and going to school in Taiwan at the time. A friend told me about via mail.
When I worked at Metropolitan State Hospital in Norwalk, CA there were several flamboyant queers. They liked to be called queers, BTW. Hard to stomach. In San Fransicko they're everywhere whether you can tell or not.
In any other school not in California I never knew of one and I went to 17 different schools because my old man was in the Navy and we moved around a lot.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 18, 2016, 03:38 AM:
Definitely an epidemic that is destroying our Country.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 18, 2016, 07:43 AM:
I knew a few gay people growing up, girls and boys. It wasn't exactly safe to "come out" back then, I'm sure there were a lot more than I knew. I definitely know lots of gay people now.
They've always been there. Just too scared to let the world know, most of the time I think. Used to be that way, I should say. They aren't afraid anymore...
I just don't give a shit, one way or another. It's not any of my business and damn sure shouldn't be any of the gov't business.
But, I think it is way more common than you guys seem to believe. Kid next door is gay. One of my daughters best friends is gay. About 1/4 of the people at my work are gay.
The trans thing, totally different. But also not so uncommon. Took my daughter for a smoothie last week. Nice polite teenage boy took our order and served the smoothies. I'd have never guessed, never known in a million years. But, when we leave, my daughter tells me that guy used to be a girl. Goes to her school. Apparently been using the boys bathroom for a year now. No big deal.
Doesn't matter what any of us think anyway. The world has moved on. My kids generation, as much as I don't care, they care even less and can't even imagine caring.
- DAA
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 18, 2016, 08:26 AM:
And as far as the political crap...
That's all it is. Election cycle pandering. And well played. If I'm upset about anything in regards to it, it's how well the liberals have coopted what started as conservatives doing some election cycle pandering of their own.
Of course, I'm sure both sides view it as convenient to have such clearly delineated sides to fire up the troops. But the liberals are getting a lot more milage out of it.
But, it's ALL bullshit. All of it. Not a sincere "moral" or "ethical" or "values" based bone in any of the bodies responsible. Just plain old politics. Same old, same old.
Here's "the thing", though, from my view. The "LGT community", no matter what you may personally think about their motives, behaviors lifestyle or anything else - you can't ignore how politically active and effective they are. They have a stunning track record of success in moving their agenda. Sure, the media helps, a lot. Tough shit. That's reality and if the conservatives can't do any better than whine about it they'll keep getting their teeth kicked in on it. Stupid fucks...
So, the Dems, wisely, seize a golden opportunity served up soft ball style by the NC legislature. Energize the LGT troops and their many minions for the election. Slam Dunk Stupid Obvious Play. No politician in his right mind would have passed it up.
Seriously. Nothing to see here. Except one side getting bitch slapped by the other. Be nice to see it go the other way once in awhile though.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 18, 2016, 08:48 AM:
Okay, I guess I can agree that we shall never know, get an exact headcount on queers in our midst. Nor do I care. What I object to is the promotion of the Gay lifestyle as just another choice. These kids are a blank piece of paper and they can be persuaded either way, especially if they are lead to believe that it's so "heroic". I have a granddaughter that was programed in high school, actually had adopted the lifestyle, had Dykes crawling on her, (so my son told me) but now she has a boyfriend, and I tend to believe, left to her own devices, she might never have slipped into Lesbianism. So, she woke up and (apparently) decided that she didn't have the commitment of a dedicated muff diver.
Born Gay is one thing, but I think there is a lot of recruitment and conversion going on which makes it seem that the Homosexual population is a great deal larger than it was when I was young. So, what happens? Maybe they focus on the "Bisexual" niche? As I have always said, suck one dick, you're queer. No judgements, but that's what it is. Some of us would refuse with a gun to our head. And some academics think 'that' attitude is just as bad, as in "too masculine."
Beating them up is shameful, but rolling your eyes, <shrug> I'm just not ready for "Atta Boys!" As far as I am concerned they are misguided even if they can't help themselves. Please note; Iran hangs them. That's extreme, in my view.
There are widely divergent opinions on the subject.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 18, 2016, 09:29 AM:
My biggest point, is it just doesn't matter what we think. It's not going to change anything.
But continuing to behave in a politically stupid manner, is going to continue to be damaging.
They don't even have to change any positions that might "alienate the base" (GAWD forbid...). Just stop doing stupid shit at stupid times.
Not that I think the liberals are inherently less inept than the conservatives. They're all Keystone Cops. But, on this particular strain of pandering to the base, the liberals have a built in advantage via the media and the conservatives simply can't afford to keep shooting their own dicks off on it every time.
Also, Obama has visibly improved his political chops compared to when he first took office. He's still no Boss Tweed, but he makes fewer mistakes and saw this lob for what it was and smashed it back with glee.
And, for the record, I tried to "convert" every attractive lesbian I ever met when I was single. And, as far as that goes, I grew up a lesbian atheist trapped in a Mormon mans body. So, some guy with cock on his breath makes his best try, I'm not judging. No double standards here ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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- DAA
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 18, 2016, 09:32 AM:
One last point - in regards to how this started and who the idiots are...
The media and the liberals "making a big deal" out of it.
Don't forget, it was a conservative legislature that (allegedly) thought it was "such a big deal" that they needed to create a new law to deal with it.
And that is how this particular episode got going.
- DAA
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 18, 2016, 09:46 AM:
Yeah but the whole game is stacked against the Conservatives. Due to bullshit political correctness. Everything a Conservative says is demonized by leftist liberal pricks, and the media just laps it up as fact and if you differ they pounce. Call it anything you want but its just bullshit political drival. Perfect example is bullshit Global Warming. And throwing the whole "Manmade" in front of it. Pure B.S.
And about the gays and Transgenders I could care less what they do. I don't have to like it or accept it as normal behavior because its not.
Good Hunting Chad
[ May 18, 2016, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 18, 2016, 01:30 PM:
So, the game is stacked.
Tough fucking shit. Wah, wah. Beau-hoo.
They need to deal with it and stop whining it about it like little bitches.
Life ain't fair. Politics isn't even supposed to be fair.
Reality is.
If reality is just too much to deal with, they deserve to get slapped around like bitches.
- DAA
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 20, 2016, 05:44 PM:
Here's more to chew on. I don't like reading this shit or passing it along. I can't sit with blinders on either.
What happens in the bedroom needs to stay there.
It's obvious things like this are agenda driven.
Oregon's governor speaking @ a college graduation.
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/05/gov_kate_brown_veers_from_typi.html#incart_river_home
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2016, 04:50 AM:
Welcome to "Liberal World" where anything goes, and we are "brave" for talking about it.
Next up, Caitlin Jenner, Woman of the Year.
Good hunting. El Bee
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