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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 12, 2003, 08:01 PM:
Besides your local haunts, where would you really like to hunt?
Gimme one, or several. It would be nice if you gave your reasons.
I'll go first. Alaska. Reason: wolf.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on September 12, 2003, 08:18 PM:
Salt Ste. Marie, Canada with Kevin Watson. He is a great guy and a true hunter. I would love to make a wolf hunt with him.
Kevin, are you out there?
Take care.
Bruce A. Kennedy
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 12, 2003, 08:47 PM:
Rancho Nuevo de Santa Maria del Oro
Durango, Mexico
My boyz tell me there area about 50 million never been called coyotes and bobcats. Lots and lots of arroyos they tell me. The reason it will never happen???? Rattlesnakes. They say are about 50 billion of those.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on September 12, 2003, 09:57 PM:
In no particular order;
Bishop, Ca.
Specifically, The Buttermilks and The Volcanic Tablelands.
Why, lots of access, tons of sign all over the place...
And free camping, free hotsprings, and good climbing!
Mc Neal, Az.
Because I was invited, and guaranteed a dozen full grown coyotes, and maybe a bobcat or a grey fox... and a bit of schoolin'. And I wouldn't even have to put up with any "airdorks"! (man, I laughed when I read that!) ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Midland, Texas.
Why...
Um, hello??? It's Midland, Texas!!! 
I wonder if Randy does charity work for broke smart-asses like me? 
Joshua Tree National Park, Ca.
Because they have 20,000 semi tame coyotes that have never been called... coyotes that are attracted to the sound of a vehicle, and will accept handouts from a car window... so many that is makes sleeping in a tent at night difficult for all the noise.
Maybe I could actually shoot one with a gun this time. 
Terra Haute, Ind.
Because I was invited, and guaranteed almost as many coyotes as in Az., and a damn good time! 
Las Vegas, Nv.
Because I could finally meet my friend Crapshoot in person, blast some jackrabbits, and get a bit of climbing in at one of the world's finest climbing areas... Redrock Canyon.
The whole time staying in a $19 hotel room and eating all I can at the buffet, for $4, everynight before we go out into the desert to hunt from a truck with lights. 
Terrabonne, Ore.
Free camping, right next to a wildlife area, within a few mile of some of the best rock climbing on the planet... with almost as many singing coyote as there were at J-Tree (I have even voice howled and gotten a response there), and miles of ungated roads lacing through the juniper scrubs, and volcanic tuff outcroppings.
I love a day where I can take my climbing shoes and throw out a few short easy climbs found hiding in otherwise untraveled land (by climbers).
Gillette, Wy.
I'd like to go out and meet up with Cal Taylor, see some Dorn dogs doing their thing, and blow up some prairie dogs (that is after all what V-max's were invented for!)
Goldendale, Wa.
Because, I'd like to think bygones are bygones 
I could go on forever, and I know I forgot some I've been invited to go see...
Jeff 
Posted by Stretch (Member # 91) on September 12, 2003, 10:18 PM:
Hmmm...
I think I'd have to say Africa... Reading about Leonards trip and the contact I've had with Lochi make it sound like hunters heaven.... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
But besides that, the chance at taking different animals, like caracal, hyena, baboon and maybe throw in a warthog or two to show my wife that I really ain't the ugliest creature in the world, regardless of what SHE says.... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Krusty...
I think I may have figured out why ya haven't had a shot at a coyote yet... Cause when your hunting I bet your thinking what places that would be good for climbing.... If your busy looking around at the hills and mountains, you can't see the coyotes!! LOL
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 13, 2003, 08:45 AM:
Krusty, do something , quick.
Those offers might dry up, some day.
We all think that you need to lose your cherry.
Besides, I thought you said you can't climb any more, because of an injury?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on September 13, 2003, 10:31 AM:
Leonard,
All too true...
I am working very hard to save up enough dough to go on a couple of these hunts.
I can still climb, but not as long, or as hard, as in the past... I still like to boulder which is like concentrated climbing, focusing on a couple very hard moves, as opposed to climbing hundreds or thousands of feet in a day... sorta like group shooting, instead of a dove hunt.
And I always will be a climber at heart...
If you were to lose the use your right hand, and could not fire a gun well anymore, would you not still dream the dreams of a hunter?
On a side note: Thursday Red and I went out and made a few stands.
We have been using distance to our advantage, and have been setting the two of us apart by a hundred yards or so...
The last stand we made, I could not se Red in the position he took up (130yds downwind), I called somewhat continously for about 15 mins...
Red then took over the calling, and instantly two coyotes popped over the hill to his spot.
He fumbled a bit with his gun, and then got off a shot... we lost the (very faint) blood trail some three hundred yards down the ridge (in the wet grass), and never found the coyote.
Now that summer is over, and the pups have disbanded, I will be hunting a lot more...
I guess the place I most want to go is just to go at all!!!
Jeff
Posted by Rob (Member # 75) on September 13, 2003, 10:40 AM:
Alaska or Canada for wolf.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 13, 2003, 01:30 PM:
Oh, by the way. Another desire is to call some of those western states that I have missed, over the years. Fill in the gaps, so to speak.
That would be Montana, Washington, the Dakotas, and possibly Nebraska. They have been slightly out of reach, by ground transportation.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 13, 2003, 03:05 PM:
"Wish"? Yellowstone, wolves.
- DAA
Posted by Hodgen (Member # 180) on September 13, 2003, 03:09 PM:
One accomplishment I would like to complete, is call and kill 10 coyotes in one winter (Oct-Feb), right here in eastern Pa. It doesn't sound like a lot to most on this board, but around these parts, an accomplishment like that would put you on a pedestal.
But instead of beating my brains out against a wall, I treck once again to California, Arizona, and Nevada. One day I'll find that perfect big bobcat, to do a full mount. Hopefully next month; I picked up my plane tickets last Wednesday for sunny CA.
But if the truth be told, I just enjoy getting together with a few buddies in the western states. We always end up having a great time, some good adventures, and we end up killing a few coyotes and bobcats to boot. We try and disguise this, and all pretend to be serious hunters.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 13, 2003, 03:36 PM:
To make trips of that length, repeatedly; you are a serious predator hunter, my friend. Live with it!
Good hunting. LB
PS hey, there's a topic for us. What National Park would you love to hunt? Thanks, Dave.
Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on September 13, 2003, 07:59 PM:
At this moment I think Alaska, truly BIG Moose, Wolves. Bears?? Tons a deer. Fish. For a bit more $ Africa. I have had the pleasure of hunting Elk in WA, Or, ID, MT, Wy. To me nothing spells big game in America like big Bulls in the high country on horseback.
Coyotes in Ariz, New Mexico and Texas, on private ranches with Gerald Stewart.
and and and
Geez my mind is spinning.
Carl
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on September 14, 2003, 04:19 PM:
Hummmm, I'm talking about predator hunting only. If I could hunt anywhere I wanted, I'd have to say Mexico for numbers of animals of all kinds.
Just for coyotes, I'd have to say a secert place that Del Western and Benny Murray use to hunt in Arizona many years ago, and I know where it's at lol.
I have called in Joshua Tree before ( no guns ). First stand was a triple, next stand was a double and last stand was a single and I started my first stand at noon. Somehow I think I could get a 100 coyotes out of Joshua Tree on a weekend if they would just let me ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
lol.
Posted by John/Alaska (Member # 25) on September 15, 2003, 01:00 PM:
Tis a tough question for me as I can hunt wolf out my back door. I guess I might like to go to Africa as well as revisit some of my old haunts on the west coast.
Speaking of National Parks.An immediate goal is to call wolves in St Elias National Park as there are lots. Thinking in the next couple of weeks if I can get SIL to drop me off on the Chitna river for a day or two. Oh and I can shoot them in the Park too if they decide to show up!
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on September 15, 2003, 02:23 PM:
Great question, now I'll be thinking of all the places that I need to get to. Let's see, I have called and killed coyotes in Wy., Mt.,S.D.,N.D., Nev.,Ut., Az.,and Co. So for hot spots that leaves California, Texas, and Mexico. I'll probably get to call Texas this year, I really don't want to go back to California for anything, and I don't know when I'll get to Mexico, but hopefully some day. A wolf hunt in Wyoming isn't too many years away, I have a feeling, so I will wait for that, and I recently seen a copy of a video piece of a Kodiak Brown called in with a predator call and shot with a bow. That would be interesting.
Posted by Brad Norman (Member # 234) on September 15, 2003, 02:36 PM:
How about Oklahoma?
Posted by Rob (Member # 75) on September 15, 2003, 03:12 PM:
Cal why do you think Wyoming will have a wolf hunt in the future? I hope your right.
Posted by Rob (Member # 75) on September 16, 2003, 04:37 AM:
Cal went to Wyoming Game and Fish Dept. wed site and read up on the Wyoming Gray Wolf Management Plan. Good luck this hunting season.
Posted by howler (Member # 197) on September 22, 2003, 10:47 PM:
I think I'd like to call mexico someday, I guess its possible but not hassle free
Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on September 23, 2003, 12:43 PM:
I want to hunt predators in Mexico. I've contacted a few of the outfitters in Mexico but have yet to find any who are willing, or know anything about predator hunting down there. Damn.
I would like to hunt wolves in Newfoundland, or eastern Canada, as well as the Yukon, or Alaska.
Australia for dingoes and 30-40 foxes in one night.
There are also a couple indian reservations around the west that I dream of having access to.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 23, 2003, 03:07 PM:
Well it's good to finally be back among the living.I have been working like a dog the last few months and have also had computer problems,but it's good to be back and see all the familiar names.
Well now for the topic at hand,I'm with Leonard "Alaska" has always been way up there on my list,wolves would be great fun to try to call.
Speaking of calling I just got back from my first road trip of the year,we went to Nevada for a few days last week and had a pretty good shoot.Three days of calling we called 12 coyotes and shot 8.There were definitely more coyotes this year than we have seen in years past.We probably saw 25+ coyotes total over the 4 days of hunting and traveling.Optimistic to say the least.We should have had more in the pickup but lack of offseason practice cost us a couple ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
GOOD HUNTING CO
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on September 26, 2003, 09:40 AM:
Turkey or Mongolia for wolves
Posted by jerryboy (Member # 231) on September 26, 2003, 11:59 AM:
I want a Cronk killer call. jerryboy
Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on September 27, 2003, 09:49 PM:
Wyoming, because I need to practice calling in windy conditions.
New Mexico, Colorado, and Montana, because I’ve never called them before.
I would love to go east to Pennsylvania and West Virginia because I was invited. I think it would also help me realize how spoiled I really am.
Yellowstone would be cool if I could find a place to be alone. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on October 12, 2003, 06:28 AM:
Adirondacks or Catskills in NY! Invitation standing!
Night calling and day calling with Leonardo and Dan Hehehe in Nevada.
Calling a wolf in Northen MN with the boys from USDA. Invitation standing!
Calling a lion on the San Carlos.
Combination hunt in Texas in March during the Diamondback Roundup at Sweetwater. Invitation standing!
Leonard, you still need to come shoot some pheasants but leave the mist at home. Hehehe!
Hope everything is good for you and yours. Been busy on the house. Probably won't be back for a while.
Rich H.,
Stay in Touch!
Cal,
Give a call when you come through sometime. We'll do coyotes.
Vic,
If you run out of coyotes due to those September warriors that just can't wait, make a trip North. I'll set you up! As you know, seeing new country is half the fun.
Q,
Missed ya in Valentine!
~SH~
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on October 13, 2003, 08:44 PM:
Scott,
I don't think the "September Warriors" bother any one near as much as the Out-of-towners who screw up and educate all of the coyotes in their area, then want to come down here and gut shoot all of our coyotes.
Just because you see a video, or read something on the 'net doesn't mean you need to travel to where the video was made or the Author of the post is from.
Some video's are made due to a great rifle shooter, some posts are written out of pure BS.
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on October 13, 2003, 10:15 PM:
I couldn’t make it to Valentine this year because I was in AK moose hunting. I heard there was quite a turn out?
Come on Tim. LOL Tell us what you really think. He he. Everybody knows that the southwest has the highest densities of predators in the states. Many vids are shot down there because of that very reason. The grass may not be greener down there but the coyotes are thicker. LOL I may even wander down that way myself this January for the hunt. I won’t be after your coyotes too much though. I want to get a gray fox badly. It depends on my time schedule but I am either going to try and do that hunt or make it down to Silver City NM for Bruce’s deal.
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on October 14, 2003, 08:34 AM:
OK Q,
How about I rephrase that. What pisses me off is guys who don't do any range time, can't shoot worth spit and cripple and loose coyotes.
Making a bad shot happens to everyone from time to time. But some guys rarely seem to make a good shot. If you shoot twenty rounds on a coyote hunt, and don't kill at least a dozen coyotes, you shouldn't be hunting, you should be at the range practicing.
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on October 14, 2003, 01:03 PM:
A mountain lion coming to the call and the rifle.
A wolf called to the call and harvested...
Austrailia for some desert adventures..
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 14, 2003, 06:32 PM:
Quinton....Im sure....no, Im positive, if you get down here, I can promise you a gray fox, probably several. Im sure I can speak for Tim also, we'd love to get you out after those little devils. I get my share, but Tim is the fox god,he knows where they hide.
As for the wish list, Az is blessed with all the big game I could ever want to hunt, but before I die, I would dearly love to go on a quality pheasant hunt, Ive had that dream as long as I can remember, my father used to tell me about all the great pheasant hunts he had been on as a young man.....someday I'll go!
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on October 14, 2003, 08:05 PM:
I am not greedy; all I want is one fox and one coyote. I sure hope it works out that I can make it down that way this winter.
I agree Tim, I hate it when a coyote gets away and especially one that gets away wounded. That being said I am a little worried about my own shooting ability in the AZ country. I am a BAD off hand shooter and am not afraid to admit it. Here I am lucky and can shoot prone most all of the time. From what I understand most all of the country in your neck of the woods is thick and shooting prone is not and option or a poor one at best. Looks like I may need to spend a little time at the range. LOL
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 14, 2003, 08:25 PM:
Don't give me that bullshit Q you'll have no trouble here.....I can take you many a place that you will think is your backyard. Tim does like to poke around in the thicker stuff than I do, but we have a great mix of open and mesquite covered country. You just make sure you get down this way, it would be a real pleasure to hunt with you.
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on October 14, 2003, 08:52 PM:
Q, don't worry, you can shoot from a prone position here in the desert... you may have to wiggle around the cacti, but they will let you know where they are... the biggest difference is that you are not often looking over cow chewed pastures or crop stubble, you are overlooking cactus, creosite trees and other vegetation that creates this desire for the eyes to be about 2.5 ft to 3ft off the ground so you can tell if something is coming to the call.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on October 15, 2003, 07:56 AM:
Quinton,
Most fox are taken inside of 25 yards. Coyotes within 50 yards. I do most of my shooting from the sitting position with my elbows on my knees. If you want, I have a Harris bipod you can use that extends up tall enough you can use it from a sitting position.
But I took it off because it was a pain in the butt when the coyotes kept stopping 20' to my side and 90 degrees away from where the barrel was pointed.
If you want to shoot prone, be my guest. Just don't ask me to pull all of the stickers out. I'll be laughing too hard to be of much help. I rarely even sit on the bare ground. I carry a little seat. It only holds me an inch off of the ground, but it's just enough I don't turn to shoot and twist my ass into a thorn. They tend to make you flinch at the wrong time.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 15, 2003, 08:05 AM:
I'll see you one butt pad and raise you one...I use a stool almost 99% of the time. Tim is a bit younger than I so his dexterity is more refined:) If I sit my ass on the ground, I'd have to ask Tim to give me a hand up:) I never use bipods or sticks, they are a pain in the ass,and really not necessary. I bend at the back, prop my elbows on my knees, and can use the balls of my feet to lift my boot toes up and down to adjust for any needed elevation,its very solid and so much easier. I tote so much damned stuff afield now, the last thing I need is sticks floppin around while Im carrying my stool,rifle,call and my tired old ass around the desert:)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 15, 2003, 04:29 PM:
That's about the size of it, Quinton. There is a trade off, and almost everyone hunting that country opts for visibility over stability.
And, that's exactly what I do, prop my elbows on my bent knees, it's as steady as you need to be, but not as good as prone.
If you can't bag a gray in Arizona, you are one unlucky dude. You just drive until you see the signs that say: "Gray fox here! ". Seems that the higher you go, the nicer they get, a big one might go ten pounds? A 10 lb. gray will have a tail half again as long as a large coyote.
Hey, as far as that goes, you might practice a bit with the scattergun, assuming you want a mount? You can even back into a mesquite, and do the stand while on your feet. But, prone? You would have to find a perfect ridge, and lie across it, and probably pass up a lot of productive cover, as in "more" productive.
Whatever, don't worry, you'll most likely get at least one. Hey, that's the way I feel about red fox. I've never even SEEN one.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on October 15, 2003, 08:07 PM:
If I am lucky enough to whack one I will have a pedestal mount made of him. I think I will have to leave the swift back at the truck and grab my 17 or my Benelli. (Did I just say .17?) LOL
One of those purdy little devils graced the cover of The Trapper and predator caller I see. Now I am getting all excited.
Last year I shot a beautiful Red Fox and am having a pedestal mount made of him. It was one of the best reds I have ever taken so I thought what the heck. A nice gray fox mount would compliment my trophy room as well. Here is the pic of the red fox. I posted it last year on PM so maybe you have already seen it.
Good hunting.
Q,
P.S. Vic, I am just taking a proactive approach on my excuse list. LOL
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 15, 2003, 08:22 PM:
Yeah, No (S)POOP! quote:
(Did I just say .17?) LOL
Never thought I'd hear Quinton Wagoner talking about hunting predators with a SEVENTEEN!
What am I, the last hold out, now?
That sure is a nice fox, and no; I didn't see it over yonder, last year. Thanks for sharing.
Good hunting. LB
[ October 15, 2003, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 15, 2003, 08:40 PM:
Im as in awe of your reds, as you are of our grays Quinton. What a beautiful animal, I'd love to get one of those hides. I have a dandy little ruger 17 HMR that is perfect for fox, you'd be welcome to use it, a 17 rem can still be to much medicine for our little grays, they aren't much larger than a big jackrabbit in weight. Im sure you'll be amused just how close they come dancing into a stand,the shots can be very very close.
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on October 16, 2003, 06:43 AM:
Az,
If you want to hunt pheasants, come up. We have some of the best pheasant hunting in the nation where I grew up. All wild birds too. Don't let some previous petty computer bickering stand in your way. LOL! Pheasant season opens up this Saturday but the late season hunting is always better. Get your ass up here if you want to hunt pheasants and sharptailed grouse too.
Mange has been pretty tough on our reds but I think I could find you one.
Q without bipods........what's the world coming to?
~SH~
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