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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 03, 2003, 08:37 PM:
 
If you were able to order up the best possible weather conditions, temperature, moon phase, barometric pressure, wind direction and speed, etc.. Weather conditions that you believe are ideal for calling coyotes. What would your picks be for your perfect day?

I realize this could vary depending on what part of the country you live in and what time of the year you do most of your calling. I want to hear what conditions you like for your part of the world and the time of year you do the majority of your calling. Thanks
 
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 03, 2003, 09:11 PM:
 
Lonny, given my druthers, I would ask for no moon, cool weather with a falling barometer and no wind. Winds here are normally light and variable but generally out of the south or the west. With a low front coming in winds are usually out of the east. We have different areas that we hunt according to wind direction and sun ,AM or PM. Those conditions mean more coyotes are going to be active longer through the day. Second on my list would be immediately after a light to moderate rain regardless of time or wind direction.
 
Posted by howler (Member # 197) on August 03, 2003, 10:07 PM:
 
No wind and cool 10 above or so
 
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on August 03, 2003, 10:32 PM:
 
Geeze Howler. Maybe 10 above 50. Having been in AZ for so long, I've become a light-weight (Figuratively speaking).

Medium to light fog is really special. Not good for canera work, but winds are always calm, hearing is excellant and watching a coyote coming out of the fog is a slow motion experience I never tire of.

Calm with light snow falling is as good.
 
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on August 04, 2003, 05:10 AM:
 
Immediately after a snow cover of about two inches. 10-20 degrees. No wind. Half moon to full moon. These conditions, you can hunt all night long. That's my kind of ideal [Wink]
 
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 04, 2003, 09:38 AM:
 
That's an excellent topic, Lonny. I agree with Crow Woman. I would also like a fresh, light snow on the ground(or a light rain too) and would like the temp around 30 degrees. Where I like to hunt it seems that Oct, Nov. and Dec. are the best times to hunt coyotes. The terrain should be high sage brush with gullies and open areas with lines of mesquite and at an altitude of between 1500 and 3000 feet. A slight wind blowing away from the light of the sun(if there is one) and I like a full moon for day hunting and no moon for night hunting. I'd also like this to be in a SECRET place in Arizona Leonard and I know about lol. (Y otros paraje caliente para coyotes en Mexico) [Big Grin] Good Hunting.

[ August 04, 2003, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2003, 11:24 AM:
 
The terrain should be high sage brush with gullies and open areas with lines of mesquite and at an altitude of between 1500 and 3000 feet. A slight wind blowing away from the light of the sun(if there is one) and I like a full moon for day hunting and no moon

Danny,
You write such relaxing words you almost sell me on AZ, which would make my hubby extremely happy!

Mrs. LB
 
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on August 04, 2003, 12:31 PM:
 
Didn't I tell ya Danny that you need to write a book? Your writing IS good [Wink]
 
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 04, 2003, 01:48 PM:
 
I can't write for chit and you all know it lol. [Roll Eyes] Never could spell either. [Frown] Only thing I can do good is BS and even then nobody believes me. [Frown] So why I'am I wasting my time here? [Confused] Because it's fun lol. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] Good Hunting.
 
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on August 04, 2003, 02:00 PM:
 
Nice try Danny... now THAT was a BS post [Wink] Except for the part that it's fun, now that, I agree with [Wink]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2003, 03:49 PM:
 
Gosh. So many different conditions. I just would have to list a few preferences, and if they should come together, that's a hunt to be remembered.

I like to hunt a new moon, day or night, doesn't matter, but a full moon is usually good for strictly day hunting. Strictly marginal on daylight stands because other factors are more important. In other words, I don't think moon phase is a highly significant factor, calling early morning, day in, day out.

I like a cold clear night, high pressure, temperatures 10º to 30º.

I prefer a light wind between five to eight MPH, over no wind, or winds over 15 MPH. Anything up to 15 is acceptable. Generally, wind is only a factor in the early evening, usually dying down, the later it gets. I strongly prefer a steady breeze, rather than gusty, or changing directions.

I like light snow flurries in the daytime, with a little ground fog. Coyotes are just as eagar in the middle of the day, as they are early and late.

At night, I strongly prefer to hunt immediately after the snow stops falling and the temperature drops.

Daytime hunting in a light rain is usually good for steady action, all day long. Heavy rain, I like to be ready for when it breaks. Same with heavy snow.

Some say a falling barometer, but I get a lot better action with a rising barometer. A cold snap causes the coyotes to get real hungry.

If hunting variable elevations, and it's snowing, I like to hunt below the snow line, because most coyotes will head downhill, just like the deer. You want action, hunt the valleys.

For the best hunting, (numbers) I think it's hard to beat September, in the high desert. Normal southwest conditions, November and December are as good as it gets.

You want a dead weekend, hunt in heavy cold rain, otherwise get some sleep....and be ready for when it stops.

That's all I can think of, put some of those conditions together and it's a multiplier effect.

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 05, 2003, 10:13 AM:
 
Thanks for the replies. I agree with Crow Woman about having a fresh skiff of snow on the ground. It sure makes the incoming coyotes easier to spot. To me, the contrast of a coyote coming to the call, over a snow covered landscape is a sight that I never get tired of seeing.

I like to have snow flurries through the night with clearing and cold temps arriving during the late night/early morning hours. With little or no wind. Maybe just a enough of a breeze so the wind can be predictable. I don't worry about the moon phase too much because if the conditions look good I'm going anyway.

[ August 05, 2003, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
 
Posted by John/Alaska (Member # 25) on August 05, 2003, 12:41 PM:
 
I was interested in everyone's replies. Good question Lonny. Seems that most prefer cold temps with a fresh snow and little if no wind. That's what I like too except I prefer temps below 10 or zero if there is snow and between there and 40 if there isn't any white stuff. Snow gets me wet at much above zero when I'm sitting in it plus when its colder it tends to be quieter for walking. Plus the humidity tends to rise as the temps go up making me feel colder. As far as moon phases I like a full moon at night only because of the added light we get from it here with our short days. We are loosing about 6 minutes of daylight a day now.
 
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on August 05, 2003, 04:14 PM:
 
Lonny, In all due respect. I hate perfect conditions. They make for such lousy excuses.
 
Posted by Terry Hunter (Member # 58) on August 05, 2003, 04:18 PM:
 
Two inches of fresh snow.With a temperature of 10-30 degrees.A 5 mph wind if it blows from the same direction.No moon or a new moon.Cloud cover would be a plus.

My part of the country gets these conditions two or three times a year.
 
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 05, 2003, 07:22 PM:
 
My idea of perfect hunting conditions require that two criteria be met - it's either Sunday or my day off. Once the wind changes to the north more than not, the suns sets around dinner time, and I don't break into a sweat walking from the house to my truck, I take whatever conditions present and go hunting. If I had my choice, I'd say daytime, morning, first day after a couple days of hellish cold north winds following a big Alberta Clipper coming through, slight winds (<10), snow optional. Around here, we get powder for about eight minutes, then the top thaws a little, refreezes and you can't walk a step without three townships knowing where you are by the "crunch, crunch, crunch" of your steps. It's nice to be able to see them better, but a heavy frost stirs them up more, me too.
 
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on August 05, 2003, 09:05 PM:
 
Onecoyote,

What about this secret place in Az? I wonder if that the same place that Leonard shared with me and Rich last year?
 
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 06, 2003, 06:00 AM:
 
22-250, I don't think so lol, then it wouldn't be a secert anymore. [Frown] To many places to go in Arizona without tapping the old honey-hole. [Wink]
 
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 06, 2003, 08:37 AM:
 
Sorry Danny, it done been tapped. [Razz]
 
Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on August 16, 2003, 01:37 PM:
 
For those of you who hunt in very cold conditions, 10 degrees or colder, have you noticed that coyote response seems to pick up later in the day? On a 'warmer' day the calling may slow down around 10a.m., but with bitter cold conditions, I've often found that coyotes are more responsive later in the day.

I haven't called enough during these conditions to form very solid conclusions, I'm just curious if others have had similar findings or not?
 




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