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Prune Picker
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posted December 07, 2015 10:51 PM
The Donald is ah taking the muzzies to task over their world wide opinion concerning "gee-hod" on America. I support his idea 100%. In fact I think we should close all of our borders completely until someone who cares about our country's American Born CITIZENS welfare is in the White House and makes our country safe again. That mite sound like a difficult thing to do, but if they would let the welcome to America tit dry up, most if not all potential new Americans wouldn't be so anxious to come here, go to work, pay tax's, & earn American citizenship, like it use to be!
Thank You, Thank You Very Much Donald.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 08, 2015 01:36 AM
Close the border.
If it saves just one innocent life, isn't it worth it ??
Do it for the children.
This shit sound familiar ?? Throw it back at them.
We have a couple of liberals where I work. Yanking their chains is cheap fun and more entertaining than renting a movie. Last week we had a beggar out front. (Homeless individual in liberal-speak). Mid-20s, Caucasian, able bodied looking male with a cardboard sign.
I made the observation to one of the libs that we have wet-backs who are willing to WALK here from Mexico to work while we have bums out front who are just a couple of more `donations` from a quick trip to the liquor aisle. It's too bad that we can't figure out a way to swap I.D.s to keep the wet-back who wants to work and deport the loser bum to Mexico. Kind of a guest worker exchange program, only different.
Yes, I really enjoy fukin' with liberals. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted December 08, 2015 07:02 AM
Trump is an insufferable jack ass. If he gets the nomination we'll be assured of a historically bad presidency either way.
Liberty for all. If it's okay to go after Muslims this year, it will be okay to go after your favorite flavor of Ghost Story Believers next.
He's a fucking fear mongering bull shit artist extraordinaire. What he's offering up is god damn Nazi in nature.
FUCK THAT!
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Leonard
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posted December 08, 2015 07:07 AM
This is reply to koko
....and you think that's a fair fight? A battle of wits with an unarmed individual? Liberalism is a mental illness, Amigo.
I'm not sure if I am ashamed? or should be but there are two people that I have known for over 40 years and over 50 years that voted for Obama and I cannot find it in my heart to forgive them. These are people that bought into the Bush Hate of the Media so deeply, that they voted Democrat as retribution. As purely NAZI or Communist indoctrination as possible, on the public airwaves, no less!
Keep your powder dry, folks.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: Dave, I'm not serious about favoring Trump but I like him in the mix. Some of the things he is saying need to be said, and evaluated. I sincerely doubt he will be the one left standing, but if he is, I will shut up and hope he beats Hillary. The last thing we need is another liberal democrat president.
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posted December 08, 2015 09:44 AM
Back during the first clinton dynasty years, a guy named Pat Buchannan announced his views to close the border too stop the here's you check, here's social security cards, here's the keys to your new casa, etc. The fucking Clinton backed media BBQ'd Pat Buchannans run for president, called him a nazi, said he was hitlers son etc. Imagine that , a fucking Clinton calling someone a nazi. These are the same fucking clintons that twenty years later are saying Muslims don't deserve to be called terrorists, and how dare anyone say close the open to anyone & eveyone borders. The same clintons that are preaching "git rid of all guns asap". The same clintons who said yesterday that we need to ban all assault weapons. The same clinton who claimed the Benghazi massacre was a reaction to a u t u b e video while standing in front of the caskets of the ambassador & his staff.
I've said it before, the Donald isn't my choice for president, but what he said , I agree with . I'll vote for trump if he wins the nomination , although Scott Walker was my choice. I'll vote for any republican that disagrees with clabbered cunt hillerie & bernie the communist .
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posted December 08, 2015 10:31 AM
I'm not on board with "registering" citizens for their religion.
Period.
And yes, I do think Hitler would have approved.
I don't have answers. But sticking tough to the values and principles this country was founded on would be a good place to start. Sounds to me like Trump has proposed throwing them out, as inconvenient, as his first step?
I'm not glad he's in the mix. Just when I thought the process couldn't get any more fucked up, he's gone and damaged it even more.
This isn't going to do any of us any good in the long run.
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posted December 08, 2015 11:38 AM
Agree with Dave.
For as much good Trump has done to shake up the current norm of political correct-ness, his latest anti "all" muslim stance was waaaay overstepping, IMHO. In truth, I feel that reaction is playing directly into the hand of those who're orchestrating this whole ISIS mess...
Think of closing our borders to muslims in the same light as the Patriot Act. IE, a knee jerk reaction based on fear that ultimately cost EVERYONE a slice of precious freedom...
Weez fukked, any which way ya slice it.
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posted December 08, 2015 12:59 PM
The Donald's idea makes more sense to me than anything & eveything ohbamamma & hillerie has said since I heard either one or both say anything about and including climate control , gun bans, magazine limits, ban all semi autos , blaming paranoid red neck baptist republicans for the terrorist attack on the Colorado abortion clinic , islam is a religion of peace. fuck I could go on for days reciting all of the ignorant excuses but I'll end it with the all time best from the liberal democrats... The newest greatest idea, if you're on the no fly list you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. Wow , that is a hell of a good response to redirect the effects of the most recent terrorist attack that so far has claimed 14 murdered & at least 20 wounded , all in the name of islum the religion of peace.
My next door neighbors are naturalized Americans who's familys fled post war Germany . They were put on a waiting list for background check to ensure they weren't nazis or communists, then forced" to secure a sponsor who posted a bond to guarantee that they would assimilate to the THEN American culture , and not become a burden on the United States economy. That form of immigration was acceptable then but for some strange reason today is considered racist. Just yesterday Norway offered Moozlums a free ticket back to Mecca for eveyone who is unhappy that they feel unwanted because of the beliefs.
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posted December 08, 2015 01:03 PM
Yeah, and I don't care for any more; "this is what they want, plays right into their hands, this is not who we are" stuff.
As far as singling out a religion, my attitude agrees with this guy. Sorry.
(had to go find this)
https://dotsub.com/media/72457cbc-fe18-4053-ae3f-6c7639cf4e79/embed/
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: we are being played for suckers!
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posted December 08, 2015 03:37 PM
Maybe y'all should read up on Islam. It's not radical Muslim's as according to the Koran, if they don't convert to Islam, they should be put to death.
That's the basis for Islam, convert or die. They have waged gihad on us and keeping them out "until the US Representitives can figure out what the hell is going on" is the only answer.
If a dog is trying to bite you, do you let it in your house?
Trump is only speaking the truth on what needs to be done if we want to get this country back on track and safe again. Hiding in the desert won't make it all better.
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posted December 09, 2015 07:19 AM
Obama wants 10,000 Syrians here for the same reason he had Eric Holda run Fast and Furious. He is hoping that at least 100 jihadists will make it in and that will mean 100 more attacks where he or hildabeast can chant "We need more common sense gun laws." Obama doesn't give a shit about the murder rate. He doesn't give a shit about terrorism. He wants two things and that is the socialization of the US and the government having complete control. If he gets his way, we will all be under arrest for posting on huntmasters.
Good Luck
I say shut the border down to everyone with just a few exceptions. One exception would be foreigners that have had visas in the past and obeyed the rules while here. Everyone one else would have to go through a long waiting period while they were thoroughly vetted. Also, they must have adequate identification to prove who they are. If their home country cannot be trusted to give us truthful information, then they don't get in and we don't even bother to vet them. Like Koko, I propose common sense immigrant control.
Question: Why would any western country let these people in? Why isn't Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, and other Muslim countries bringing them in?
edited in: DAA I would like to know how you embed pictures on your huntmasters posts. I only know how to add links.
http://s1186.photobucket.com/user/Arznative/library/huntmasters
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posted December 09, 2015 07:52 AM
El Bee;
I don't believe in fighting fairly with those who would deny me everything that I believe in.
Yes, they are mentally defective and often mentally damaged.
Not my fault that they make it easy to point out the flaws in their `logic`.
A wise man once told me long ago "If you're planning a fair fight........your tactics suck."
It was true then and it's true now.
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posted December 09, 2015 08:50 AM
I am with the Donald on this one. Marauding bands of Catholics, Methodists or Lutherans are not trying to do us harm, by the way.
There is only one religion that says either to convert or be killed, and that is the so-called 'religion of peace'.
I would honestly call for listing Islam as a political ideology rather than a religion.
It sucks when people look up to the draft dodging, scum-bag, conscientious objector, Muhammad Ali to weigh in and condemn Trump's comments.
ISIS has ALREADY said they want to infiltrate the refugees with terrorists...WHY ON EARTH would we not want to take a step back, get the vetting process down pat, and THEN look at taking in some refugees? I don't understand what is wrong with that.
The Washington elite are in lock step to disapprove of almost everything Trump says, that they look silly when they start disagreeing with common sense. That even includes Dick Cheney, who I think is a really good man.
Like Koko said, there is nothing about fighting fair in this war. It is going to be bad enough trying to root out the US citizens that get radicalized without letting in more that come in through the guise of being a 'refugee'.
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posted December 09, 2015 10:23 AM
For you democrats out there, you know who you are, even Jimmy Carter banned Iranians from coming into this country.
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posted December 09, 2015 11:02 AM
If you wanna refuse immigrants, I'm fine with that. Close the border to EVERYONE, then.
Don't cherrypick or legislate who's "safe" or who's "ok" to let in the country, and who's not.
Do it RIGHT, or don't do it, at all.
There is nothing in the Constitution or Bill of Rights that mandates the USA to accept immigrants, refugees, etc. IE, there is no legal obligation, or obstruction to closing our borders, as a matter of national safety...
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posted December 09, 2015 11:31 AM
Nationality and religion aren't even remotely the same thing.
And yeah, I've read the docs. I'm familiar with the history of Islam and the sword of the prophet and all their ghost story bullshit. A lot of institutional violence there, for sure. It ain't a pimple on the ass of the people that have been killed in the name of Christ, by Christians, in their 2000 year history, but whatever. Hell, there have probably been more people killed by Christian nut fucks going after abortion clinics than there have been by domestic muslim terrorists. I really don't give a fuck about any of that though.
Simple question. If you are going to do anything based on a persons religion, like say, register them in a database, like sex offenders, how are you going to test for it?
There will need to be a way of verifying, one way or another. What's "The Donald" propose? He's talked about persecuting US citizens for being muslim, surely he has a way of ferreting them out.
Or has he not put anything at all out there, that actually makes one lick of fucking sense and could actually be accomplished? I honestly don't know, based on what I have heard from him, I go out of my way not to hear anymore than I have to. Maybe he does know how to prove you're a muslim, even if you say you aren't?
I've got nothing more to say here. It's pointless. Y'all really ought to be careful what you wish for though. You get what your asking for here, and you just better believe it's going to come back and bite you right in your Christian asses a lot sooner than you seem to think possible.
And, as if, any of this amounts to a pile of shit anyway. This country has so much bigger fish to fry, it's a tragedy some fucked up freaks doing their whacko bullshit have so stupendously succeeded in accomplishing their goals. ISIS has to be giddy with glee how perfectly we seem to be going along with their plan. This crap is exactly what they want out of the shit they do.
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posted December 09, 2015 12:01 PM
Prezactly.
BTW, for the kew-ran scholars here, its also written that renouncing i-slam to hide intentions from the infidel is perfectly acceptable.
SO, it ain't like anybody's gonna loose virgins in paradise if they check "NO" on the Donnie trump "r u a muslim?" immigration survey sheet...
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posted December 09, 2015 12:07 PM
It ain't po light to leg hump in publik.
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posted December 09, 2015 12:48 PM
LMAO
If speaking out for the desire safeguard our individual freedoms against fear mongering & ignorance is leg humping, then please pass the Levis & KY jelly...
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posted December 09, 2015 12:55 PM
Public leg humping... Really?
If this is what it's come to around here, I got absolutely not use for it.
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posted December 09, 2015 01:31 PM
I have been hearing about all the distress of folks because Obama will not utter the words "Islamic Terrorists".
I think it is a step in the wrong direction to be concerned about a religious test. As has been stated frequently, (and correctly) Islam is much more than "just" a religion. Sharia law comes along with the faith, which is a total political ideology.
So, a religious test, Christian, Jew or Muslim is a little weak in determining an applicant's politics. And, (convert or die) is a bit more radical than stating if he is Protestant or Orthodox, and it's doubtful that question is asked? In other words, I don't know if an immigrant is asked to state a religious preference, or not?
I think it a bit premature to talk about muslim data bases and in fact, I believe Trump either was misquoted or misspoke. I think there might be in existence, a database of radicalized muslims? I see no harm in this, even if somebody wants to twist it into a "religion database".
In other words, I am against this politically correct bullshit. We have a fucking problem and we need to do something about it! As a lot of folks point out, they are beating us over the head with our own rules of fairness and laughing what suckers we are! I'm not at the point of; DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S WRONG, but, there has to be a solution that will keep these evil cocksuckers out of the country. And, yes, if there is no other way, that includes everybody, no exceptions. There, it's fixed!
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted December 09, 2015 02:27 PM
I have lived in 4 foreign countries excluding the USA. I have traveled to & thru maybe a dozen more. IN EVERY FOREIGN COUNTRY I have been to I was required to hand over my passport BEFORE I was allowed to enter said country including Canada & the United Kingdom. I have worked and or lived in 4 muslum countries . In EVERY muslum country I entered I was required ( or leave on the next plane ) to read & sign my name saying I understood and WOULD OBEY muslum law(s) or exit the country within 24 hours . I was encouraged to convert to muslum religion or not engage in any kind of muslum involved friendships that didn't involve work. I was schooled verbally & by book not to speak to or touch ANY or all muslum women unless I and they were escorted by an adult male muslum family member or a muslum qualified male was in attendence 100% of said visit /conversation. So if anyone who reads this finds fault or is in disbelief I encourage any and all take the time to check up on how a "NON MUSLUM IS TO ACT IN A MUSLUM COUNTRY". Then decide if I am blowing bull shit or speaking/typing the truth about my experiences abroad.
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posted December 09, 2015 02:48 PM
Did you mean; how a non-muslim is to act in a MUSLIM country, by chance? Or, maybe I misunderstand what you are saying; second to last line?
edit: PS let's try to keep the conversation moderately civil, K?
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posted December 09, 2015 03:49 PM
The Analytical Economist on December 9, 2015
Following the Paris terror attacks, more than half the nation’s governors voiced opposition to Syrian refugees entering their state. Donald Trump took this a step further, calling for the complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S.
And those who are unaware that Islam isn’t a race were quick to denounce Trump’s comments as racist. Surprisingly, Trump found an unexpected ally: Nidal Alsayyed, an Imam who leads a mosque in Beaumont, Texas.
As Breitbart reports, Alsayyed, the Imam from east Texas told his local television station, “I certainly see it to be wise [to] stop temporarily accepting any new Muslim immigrants [refugees and non-refugees] into the United States.”
The Texas Imam said, “It does not matter whether Trump said it or anyone else … American Muslims need to say we are with this country.” He also said they should raise the American flag in support of the nation. He continued, “We American Muslims need to be sincere in our religion and to the country we are living in. Peace comes before religion. We need to be truthful and transparent when we express a viewpoint or feedback. It does not matter whether Trump said it or anyone else,” he said.
The Imam faced some backlash on his Facebook page, to which he released the statement:
I only said what I believe is right. Trump is not against American Muslims; He is against any new Muslim immigrants (refugees and non-refugees)! There is a big difference here! We cannot be emotion
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