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posted March 25, 2016 11:10 AM
Been away from hunting and shooting for most of the last couple years. Just lately been dragging my lazy butt out to shoot my coyote rifles a bit and do a little hunting.
I think I'd like to trade off a Vortex PST MRAD 6-24 SFP due to they don't do very well in low light. This scope replaced the exact same one that was 4-16. I was looking for more magnification at the time, either way neither are near as bright as a Bushnell 4200 6-24X I had before them.
So I really just want the exact same features just better in low light. I'll have to watch for a used one of what ever I pick. I paid $700 used for the Vortex which at the time was probably a $1000 scope. I can go to a higher quality scope but would prob try to get one used.
I had my rifles out this week and my old B&L 4000 2.5x10 was brighter at low light.
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Leonard
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posted March 25, 2016 11:36 AM
Well, you have the answers already. It's really not in the cards that a high magnification variable will show good light transmission unless we are speaking in terms of relativity. At least, I am unaware of a scope above about 16X that is really useful at night or under low light conditions; dusk and dawn.
Personally, I have a Leupold 4.5X14 that seems to bridge the gap between high magnification and good light transfer. In fact, I think that 12X is just about the upper limit if you want to see targets in poor visibility; ie/night.
My best night scope is a 3X12X56 Kahles. I think the Euros had this shit figured out a long time ago. In the world, there are not many makers of the best night optics, but there are a lot of pretty good ones.
If you think you need something like 6X24 or so, you won't get optimum performance, even if it had a large objective and you dial it down to 12X. Every scope is some type of compromise. And, like assholes, everybody has an opinion.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted March 25, 2016 12:06 PM
Well we aren't allowed to night hunt but at 1/2 hour before sunrise things are pretty dark and that's when we can hunt. For calling it's no big deal because I just adjust my power magnification down for lower light. This scope is on a 22-243win and shooting off a long range(to me) bait. I used the 4-16X to shoot at 815 but I was wanting to see if I could knock a coyote over past 1000yds.
The 4-16X is on a 17-204 and it's fine for calling except the size of the scope is physically a little big looking on the Rem LVSF.
Maybe there isn't a scope with slightly better light gathering in that power range with illum reticle and target turrets but I'm pretty sure my 4200 6-24X was quite a bit better. Just wondering what's out there that might work.
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posted March 25, 2016 12:15 PM
The Kahles and Leopold sound like great scopes. Is there a VX3 in that power range that I could get turrets added on. I've cranked that 4-16X up and down a lot and it always returns to zero. Are VX3 level leupolds good for dialing?
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