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Leonard
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posted February 10, 2011 02:57 PM
Maybe I did hear something about it? The hydration and the misting feature have the same reservoir, right? For the REAL hardcore.
Kelly must be making a ton of money off that product? Probably enough to retire and live a comfortable Okie life.
Good hunting. LB
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4949shooter
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posted February 10, 2011 03:42 PM
quote: PA doesn't allow for weapon mounted illumination,
Fred, I believe PA allows weapon mounted lights. My understanding is that it does not allow lights or beams used as a sight, such as a laser sight.
If I am wrong let me know. [ February 10, 2011, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
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Leonard
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posted February 10, 2011 05:28 PM
Why in the hell wouldn't any authority not allow a laser sight? Are you sure of this? No weapon mounted laser site? That's crazy.
Good hunting. LB
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4949shooter
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posted February 10, 2011 06:24 PM
Here it is Leonard:
Electronic Devices: It is unlawful to hunt with any electronic contrivance or device except: 1) Electronic callers may be used to hunt bobcats, coyotes, foxes, raccoons and crows. 2) Lighted pins on bow sights and scopes with lighted reticles may be used as long as they don’t cast a beam. Any device used as a sight or scope on any firearm, bow or crossbow that projects a light beam of any kind onto the target is unlawful. 3) Portable, two-way radios and cell phones may be used for general communications with another hunter, but may not be used to direct or alert another hunter of the presence or location of live game or wildlife. The use of electronic communication devices to alert hunters to live game is not only a violation of the Game & Wildlife Code, but violates the concept of Fair Chase. The use of portable radios does not satisfy the legal requirement of accompanying a junior hunter. The accompanying adult must be close enough to give verbal instructions without the aid of an electronic device. 4) Electronic sound amplification devices that are incorporated into hearing protection devices and completely contained in or on the hunter’s ear may be used to hunt or take wildlife. The following devices may now be used to hunt or take wildlife: Any manually operated firearm that uses an electronic impulse to detonate the primer or main powder charge of the ammunition, unless such firearms are a specifically prohibited device. Electronic illuminating devices that are affixed at the aft end of a bolt or arrow and used solely for the purpose of locating or tracking bolt or arrow flight after being launched from a crossbow or bow.
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=726681&mode=2 (scroll down to "General Hunting Regulations"
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4949shooter
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posted February 10, 2011 06:32 PM
And from the next page down on the same link:
A person hunting raccoons, skunks, opossums, bobcats, weasels, foxes and coyotes on foot may use a handheld light, including a gun-mounted light. Furbearer hunters still may not use a flashlight or spotlight that projects a laser light beam, though.
I am just a dumb guy from NJ, but I read this as gun mounted lights are legal in PA. Fred may have a different interpretation, or may be privy to something I am not. I would like to hear his take on the subject. Perhaps I have been doing the wrong thing.
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Leonard
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posted February 10, 2011 06:36 PM
Okay, but what is the rationale on disallowing lasers? Okay, it's a violation, but who thought it up and what's the problem? Must we just accept these things without question? By what means may we protest, and is there a way to appeal such things that make no sense?
Good hunting. LB
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4949shooter
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posted February 10, 2011 06:43 PM
Leonard I couldn't answer that as far as the rationale goes. Maybe George Ackley or Sherri would know the answer as they reside in PA. Hopefully they will see this thread...
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Baldknobber
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posted February 10, 2011 08:08 PM
Hell, you think laser sights being prohibited is bad you should hear some of the shit the Dept. of Conservation here in Mo. comes up with. Its against the law to kill snakes. Even poisonous snakes. Snakes of all kinds!!!! Hell, no wonder Higgins loaded up and went to Arizona! [ February 10, 2011, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Baldknobber ]
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Leonard
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posted February 10, 2011 08:23 PM
There's a law begging to be broken. It's everything you know, is suddenly wrong. Every day I see stuff claiming this or that because some study announced some findings. People are being jerked around on every level. I just don't trust the "authorities" to know what's best for us.
So, how many years will I get for shooting a rattle snake? Or, is it more serious than that? A rope? OMG!
Can I use being a nonresident as a defense? Dumb Californians kill snakes all the time.
So, it's Pennsylvania that doesn't allow laser sights? Well, sounds like something New Jersey started? Or wished they had thought of it first.
Good hunting. LB
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4949shooter
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posted February 11, 2011 03:25 AM
In NJ night hunting is by permit only. The night hunting season is from Jan first through the second week of March. We can use shotgun only, #4 bird shot through T shot. There is no hunting from motor vehicles.
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knockemdown
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posted February 11, 2011 05:14 AM
49, reckon the PPHA helped get that 'no light on the gun' rule amended then? When I first started hunting PA, it was a no-no, so that's a good thing!
Nikon, thanks for the modeling props! f.y.i... I'm also available for select weddings, bachelorette parties & Bar-Mitzvahs...
Leonard, the most recent buckethead uses a 'stand alone' misting nozzle that indeed can be syphoned from either of the 12 oz. side saddle fluid recepticles. Cutting edge innovation!!! [ February 11, 2011, 05:17 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]
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4949shooter
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posted February 11, 2011 10:17 AM
Okay sounds good Fred. Thanks.
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posted February 11, 2011 03:34 PM
Guys,
I can't show all the pics of the Buckethead "Coonass Edition", but here are a few I can show...
This was at the beginning of Fred's runway debut and as it went really quickly(downhill)from here some of the shots are a little fuzzy(pun intended). I can't post the ones with the G-string... wouldn't want to give Leonard a heart attack!
Fred's vigorous and emotionally charged performance actually drove some of those attending to tears!
Last, but not least, a picture of the latest Buckethead prototype, the "KFC" model. Notice the large "MasterBlaster" speaker(newest styrofoam cone technology)and "Interurban" ghetto camo pattern.
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posted February 11, 2011 07:54 PM
And to think that coyote hunting used to be such a simple thing to do.
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4949shooter
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posted February 12, 2011 01:52 AM
That looks like a WWII German paratrooper helmet with a coonass on top.
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4949shooter
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posted February 12, 2011 05:57 AM
Back to night hunting...
Actually not a night question per se, but will a coyote distress cause a younger pup not to come in close for fear of getting it's own arse kicked? I was using this last night, and heard a high pitched bark off to my right fairly close.
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posted February 12, 2011 09:50 AM
Simple answer, I suppose it could. In my experience, I've seen coyote distress and coyote pup distress elicit pretty much the full gamut of responses. From a full blown retreat to the most agressive charges to barks to distant howls. Kinda like a box of chocolates.
Any chance what you heard was a fox?
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4949shooter
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posted February 12, 2011 09:52 AM
Thanks Jim.
I didn't think of a fox, but it could have been. A fox would come into a coyote distress?
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posted February 12, 2011 09:59 AM
I've never had a fox show up to pup distress, but I've had them show up after coyote vocals including distress. Makes you wonder sometimes how any of them survive. One barking at the hubub from reasonable safety sure isn't out of the question.
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Leonard
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posted February 12, 2011 11:40 AM
As long as we are speculating. Is it more likely to be a gray fox? I have the impression that reds won't come to a place where they suspect there are coyotes. But, as long as there is a tree to climb, a gray might?
Good hunting. LB
edit: PS niko, you have set back Okie reputation several decades. And, did you notice the pout in the third photo, Looks like that Maxim guy on dancing with the stars. [ February 12, 2011, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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4949shooter
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posted February 12, 2011 01:13 PM
Lol the fox came in for a front view seat of the action. I don't have any grey fox skins on my lodge pole, and fox are covered under the night coyote hunting permit so this could be interesting.
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posted February 12, 2011 01:14 PM
"dancing with the stars"??? Must be a California thing...
As for Okie reputation, it really is amazing what a little moonshine will do!
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4949shooter
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posted February 12, 2011 01:18 PM
That guy to the left of KJ looks like he is enjoying the bucket head joke... [ February 12, 2011, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
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Leonard
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posted February 12, 2011 01:34 PM
The difference between here and there. (okay, ONE of the differences)
.....is that when we attend club meeting, we don't look like we just parked the tractor out front. Nor, do we wear camo unless we are engaged in the pursuit of game. It's a defensive technique developed after years thus engaged.
Good hunting. LB
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posted February 12, 2011 02:21 PM
For what it's worth, the camo clad pouting model is a yankee.
Now if'n you're implying that we or in this case they didn't dress fancy enough, it's a hunt not a dance.
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