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knockemdown
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posted June 24, 2015 06:34 AM
Leonard, was enjoying a BBQ'ed tequila/lime mako steak to a symphony of heat lightning, just last evening! Got some small hail to the north of us, too...
I haven't been following that prison break fiasco real closely. Just enough to form the opinion that the blind might be leading the deaf, at taxpayer expense!!!
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DanS
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posted June 24, 2015 07:17 AM
Brent, Hard to turn down an offer like that. [ June 24, 2015, 07:18 AM: Message edited by: DanS ]
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Aaron Rhoades
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posted August 06, 2015 08:12 PM
My tax stamp came in today. Check was cashed 3-28, approved 6-17 and came in the mail today at my dealer. I picked it up and ran about 6 rounds through it with the .17-.204, anyone with a similar caliber knows that they are a snappy round, obviously not a hard recoil but snappy and loud. Anyway, the suppressor tamed that right down, recoil is significantly reduced, gun stays on target, can shoot without hearing protection, whats not to love? Also my brother tried it on his ruger 22 handgun, was incredibly quiet. I know its not the best thing to do to run a centerfire suppressor on a 22 but he only shot it 3 times to see what it would do. Its awesome!
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DAA
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posted August 08, 2015 05:04 AM
Love to hear it Aaron!
I'm onboard 100% with the concept. Have my trust all done and ready. But, no money in the play toy account right now.
Looking like I probably won't be able to get started on mine until after this winter. It's a "when" not an "if" though. I'm getting one! Heck, haven't even got the first one and already, honestly, thinking I want at least two, maybe three of them...
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CrossJ
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posted August 08, 2015 11:07 AM
After december, the trust may be a non issue. BATFE told me that it looks like a deal will be struck to make all parties on the trust subject to the background checks.....making it a bigger hassle to have a trust. this is supposedly being traded off for a waiting period of no more than 10-15 days from local LE.....in other words, a local sheriff will not be able to sit on an app as a passive form of denial.
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DAA
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posted August 08, 2015 11:41 AM
Interesting...
Would it possibly be advantageous then, to get a move-on, before the deal takes place? Or, as a transaction in progress, do you think I'm likely to end up being governed by it anyway?
Might be a moot point. Really not likely I can fund the project before Dec. anyway.
I didn't look into the local LE deal too closely. Every single person I talked to locally, had done the trust route. Couldn't find anyone I know around here that had done it the other way to even get a feel for the process.
Just wondering, out loud, if it needs to be the Sheriff, a busy man and understandably going to be hard to make an appointment with, or local chief of police? I live in a tiny municipality. Only three full time police, last time I heard, but we do have a chief. I know the mayor, next door neighbor is a councilman, etc. - getting a sit down with my local CoP should be pretty darn easy. Compared to the county sheriff.
- DAA
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TRnCO
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posted August 10, 2015 08:51 AM
Pretty sure it has to be the county sheriff Dave. And you won't need to make an appointment with him, in person. Just go in and have finger prints done and leave the paper work for the sheriff to look over and do the back ground check. Then he can call you once he signs, to go in and pick up the papers. Took my sheriff all of a day, after I got my fingers prints done, to call me. BUT, my county sheriff isn't too busy.
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CrossJ
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posted August 11, 2015 10:25 AM
Dave, TR is correct, it does have to be the sheriff of your county. he is the chief law enforcement officer(CLEO). The trusts have a few advantages. One, they allow nfa items to be held by the trust(it is considered a separate entity) in case something happened to trustee(you). In other words, atf can not come and confiscate your assets in the event of your passing. Individuals you name in your trust, can possess the items and do as you have previously directed....ie sell, keep, whatever. This is a great idea if one has alot of finances tied up in items such as full autos and sbr's as well as suppressors. If this is the case, I would want these assets to remain in the hands of my heirs, and not the gov't. This brings me to number two...Trusts have been used to avoid the finger printing, photographing phase of applying for a tax stamp by individuals. In areas like here or in your area, it is probably not an issue with your CLEO, but in some areas, CLEO's have denied these requests by simply not acting on them.
So, if they change the rules requiring everyone on the trust to be fingerprinted and photographed, it makes the trust a moot point unless you have an inventory of items of large cash value.....or you just don't want some asshole from the .gov coming and collecting your stuff.
Google 41P. There is tons of info about this.
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Leonard
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posted August 25, 2015 05:22 AM
Perfect, Vic.
You are right about one thing. The cost of suppression is a major irritant for this kid. The $200 bucks is highway robbery all by itself, and $1200 for a can is overcharge for something that looks like about $120 worth?
But, who knows? I might cave?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Aaron Rhoades
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posted August 25, 2015 11:39 AM
Can you even own them down there Leonard?
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Leonard
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posted August 25, 2015 02:17 PM
I believe the unofficial answer is NO? I haven't looked into it enough to know, for sure.
Good hunting. El Bee
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