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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 27, 2021, 01:32 PM:
 
In just a few days a big deal challenge to the right to keep and bear arms will be discussed before the Supreme Court. There will be a lot of speculation based on questions asked by the Justices but we won't get a verdict until next spring or summer.

Anyway, here's the case to look for, brought by the New York Rifle and Pistol Association. Place your bets!

https://www.vox.com/22745312/supreme-court-guns-second-amendment-nyc-bruen

It does seem like the most pro gun rights justices are Kavanaugh and Alito and maybe Thomas? What will be VERY interesting is to see which side Roberts comes down on. The other conservatives have been very timid to accept any gun control cases for many years because they did not trust Roberts to swing their way. The addition of the most recent female member seems to indicate that she is a reasonably strong supporter of gun rights, in general.

edit: for the life of me, I cannot see why any female in particular would be against the right to defend themselves against much stronger males because as has been said many times; It was Smith and Wesson that made men, (and women) equal. It's very illogical to argue for strict gun control.

[ October 27, 2021, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 27, 2021, 03:04 PM:
 
Since when does logic ............ ???? [Confused]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 27, 2021, 06:43 PM:
 
Oh? Thank you! I forgot, emotions are vastly more important than logic when it comes to self defense, or non defense in this case.

It just boggles the mind how incredibly stupid people get once the subject turns to dangerous things like rattlesnakes and firearms. It's an emotional issue and logic has no place in the discussion, ruled by FEELINGS! No getting around the issue, guns are just plain SCARY! You rights are not important when certain people feel an irrational fear of rattlers and scary looking firearms.

Don't you people understand? Your rights of self defense and the Bill of Rights are secondary when some lady is uncomfortable knowing that her DoorDash driver carries a firearm for protection against assaults and robbery, she just does not want her delivery driver to have a firearm and that's it! Is that too hard to understand? I didn't think so!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on October 28, 2021, 05:47 AM:
 
AS I've ALWAYS SAID THEY CAN HVE MINE WHEN THEY ARE EMPTY
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 28, 2021, 09:10 AM:
 
Yeah, I agree but I just remembered the time I had a coyote charge me and he meant business. Also there was 2 feet of fresh snow on the ground and he wasn't sinking in, he was belly high and I suddenly felt very vulnerable with an empty gun!

So, what did I do, I laced him in the chops, swinging side to side and poleaxed him, which broke the stock. No big deal, wasn't my cheap ass H&R single shot shotgun anyway! But, now I had to stomp him because he was still twitching.

Anyway, you get the idea, but an empty firearm can still be useful, in some apps!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 03, 2021, 11:06 AM:
 
Here's a first analysis of the NY Rifle and Pistol suit that was heard yesterday before the Supreme court. There were some expected questions and comments and a couple surprises: example, How many muggings occur in the forest? By Roberts, of all people!

Anyway, Reading between the lines, the issue looks hopeful for a reversal.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justices-question-historical-grounds-for-ny-gun-permit-law
 




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