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Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 11, 2020, 11:48 AM:
 
I thought I'd pop in and see who is still around. I've been on a couple year hiatus and even moved a thousand miles. Retired in Montana and found another job closer to family in Utah a little over a year ago.

This Utah coyote didn't know who he was dealing with when he paused to look back while I was out rabbit hunting. First one I've ever killed with a 22 rimfire. One shot through the lungs and it was a done deal. Not an ideal coyote caliber, but worked in a pinch.
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 11, 2020, 01:01 PM:
 
Welcome back !!!!!
 
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 11, 2020, 01:57 PM:
 
Welcome back.
But, that is one ugly coyote!
Must be southern Utah?
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 11, 2020, 02:12 PM:
 
Ya, they don't look like those big puff balls in Montana.
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 12, 2020, 04:25 AM:
 
Lookin good Troy !
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 12, 2020, 04:29 AM:
 
Shot placement is much more important than caliber and sitting still is much more important than than high dollar camo though I wear it a lot as a fashion statement! along with social commentary.
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 12, 2020, 06:29 AM:
 
I agree with everything you said Paul.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 12, 2020, 08:25 AM:
 
Hey, nice to see you, Troy!

I agree, that's kind of a scruffy looking coyote for Utah, even. It would be a prime southern Arizona coyote, however. For now, anyway.

Why on earth would you want to leave that Big Sky trout fishing paradise? Let's see, you are/were a public school teacher, as I recall? Retirement beckoned and you grabbed it, returning to your roots, maybe? The little woman hails from Utah? Tax advantages? It's not a state that appeals to me, as a residence, although I have been there many times.

Whatever. And, congratulations on the rabbit hunting with 22 rifles. That's a nostalgia type of thing for me, haven't done it in MANY years but I thoroughly enjoyed it at the time. Good for you!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 12, 2020, 09:04 AM:
 
Leonard, I was born and raised in southern Arizona and Utah. Both my parents and my wife's parents live in Utah. I thought when my kids grew up and moved out of the house that most would stay in Montana, but only one did. The rest moved to Utah.
Add in the fact that my mom is fighting bone marrow cancer and then it makes it easier to understand why I moved back after 25 years in the Big Sky state. It's a lot easier to help my mom and dad out when I only live 40 minutes away as opposed to a thousand miles. Utah is not my favorite state, but I've managed to find some excellent fishing and it keeps me out of trouble. I can't imagine living in northern Utah near Salt Lake or Provo. I'd rather be dead than live there. Thankfully I'm in a small town in the better half of the state. [Big Grin]
I caught this just 15 minutes from my front door.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 12, 2020, 11:22 AM:
 
It appears, you ain't lost it!
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 14, 2020, 07:38 AM:
 
May God bless your mother Troy CANCER SUCKS !
Nice bow !
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 14, 2020, 08:57 AM:
 
You know, I'm just looking at that very decent Rainbow, and pondered the "Look", the fashion statement, that example of what a well dressed expert fisherman is wearing these days.

First, you have to note the layering. I see part of a plaid shirt, followed by a sweatshirt "hoodie" and he caps off this, ensemble (is that the right word?) with what looks like a flannel, and maybe even a fleece lined flannel shirt and ball cap? There you go, a casual, yet elegant, yet functional getup worthy of an Abercrombie & Fitch ad in the New Yorker with that ever popular "Homeless" look. It's seriously impressive!

LB

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 15, 2020, 06:03 AM:
 
LOL LEONARD YOU CRACK ME UP !

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 15, 2020, 07:42 AM:
 
That's a nice fish!

Missing caption:

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Homeless Guy says; I found this in the trash!

GOD BLESS!

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 15, 2020, 07:47 AM:
 
Not picking on you, Troy. You have my admiration!
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 15, 2020, 01:28 PM:
 
They must have a better class of homeless up in Utah than we do down this way.

Speaking of homeless ..................
We have a busload of, shall we say, free spirits from Colorado that come thru this way a couple of times a year and visit Wally World. Fairly attractive brunette comes in bra-less wearing an oversized muscle t-shirt. B cup / pierced right nipple. When ALL eyes are on her walking to the restroom, her three traveling companions hit the Deli sandwich rack, load up and just walk out the door. She follows them out and down the road they go like they've done it before. [Razz]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 15, 2020, 01:47 PM:
 
Hav you not heard about what they are doing in San Francisco? Walk in the convenience store with trash bags and scoop as much as they can carry and the popo are on record not doing a damned thing about it because it might be less than a thousand dollars worth and that is the new threshold for "crime".

Liberals are proving every day that they are from outer space!

Good hunting. El Bee

PS you know, for a fact, it's B cup pierced right nipple? Who submits to these things?
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 15, 2020, 02:03 PM:
 
It's right there for the whole world to be distracted by.

[Smile]
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 16, 2020, 10:05 AM:
 
You guys crack me up. I wish I would have returned sooner!
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 16, 2020, 10:10 AM:
 
Here's a fashion statement for you from last month. Was a fun day though catching tiger trout on a fly rod. There aren't any tiger trout in Montana so I've been really enjoying catching and learning about a trout I'm not overly familiar with.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 16, 2020, 10:32 AM:
 
Damn! That does look like fun! Are those fish like a hybrid that is infertile? They sure are colorful! I HAVE heard of them, just the name and nothing about them. Maybe like the Kokono? I can't spell it but some impoundments in AZ have them.

Seems like I remember a while ago that you were transitioning to the fly rod. I never made the move, a little too rich for my blood and our creeks are too full of brush for casting, and deep.

God Bless
LB
 
Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 16, 2020, 10:42 AM:
 
They are a hybrid between a brook and a brown trout. They seem to get the best traits from both fish. I don't really care to eat trout, but I will make an occasional exception for these as they actually taste really good. Oh and you are correct they are sterile.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 16, 2020, 12:01 PM:
 
I agree on actual eating trout. Not that I have tried that many, the rainbow they have in Lake Crowley, come to think of it, they have about four different strains, including the Alpers. But, the one the plant by air every fall, something like a half a million fingerlings seem to grow to more than a pound over the winter and their flesh is a bright orange, opposed to most that are kind of a pinkish white.

Anyway, of those I have tasted, I don't really care for them, at all, and they are much too boney, you have to be careful and it's a slow process to pick them apart. You do not want a bone lodged half way down your throat. Maybe that's the main reason why I avoid them? The Crowley Sacramento perch is better eating, but you have to like fish, and I don't, particularly.

Best tasting fish, in my never humble opinion is Swordfish, if you could find it. A halibut steak would do nicely, not filleted. If you must have seafood, settle for King Crab! They sell it frozen in a wood crate for $250. You better make sure you have room in the freezer before plunking down that much coin. Per pound it's about $25. For my money, it's by far the best seafood, better than Maine lobster. Drenched, dunked in drawn butter, it's fit for a king! edit: forgot to mention where I have seen the wood boxes: at Costco, of course!

And, I've had deep fried Walleye, King Crab is superior. I've never had it on the grill, just submerged in boiling water. But, it would be worth a try.

Goo...etc.
LB

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 16, 2020, 01:19 PM:
 
Make mine crawfish !!!

[Cool]
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 17, 2020, 04:09 AM:
 
Looks like a brookie and a brown two of the best eating trout !
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 17, 2020, 04:11 AM:
 
crawfish aint fish its a crusty !
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 17, 2020, 07:56 AM:
 
Something, sort of a blast from the past, in thinking of edible seafood.

Years ago, we used to do quite a bit of snorkeling and spearfishing, primarily in that area between Laguna, Emerald Bay, Crystal Cove and sometimes as far as Corona Del Mar. The prize catch would have to be Calico Bass, good eating and very hard to poke with my 4 band Arbolette, a very powerful speargun.

But, the best eating was the black abalone, which are fairly small, compared to the reds and pinks found in colder waters up the coast. We would tenderize them and form into hamburger size patties and deep fry. You can't compare abalone to stuff like scallops or oysters, which I don't even eat. It's more like tiger prawns, stuffed with crab meat.

As I understand it, most of my old stomping grounds has been converted into a marine sanctuary, but don't quote me on that, but I believe that's the case. Kind of a shame, I guess? After all, who the hell, except strong young men would venture into the deep and actually harvest the abundance....time for Liberals to put a stop to this kind of fun!

Anyway, if you happen to see deep fried abalone steaks on a menu in some little joint along the coast, I recommend it! You need a cocktail sauce like for shrimp.

That's something that has changed in southern California. At one time, it was common to see abalone shells scattered in a garden, in the older parts of town. I can't tell you the last time I saw this? Even one?

take care, LB
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 17, 2020, 08:06 AM:
 
What I think of those tiger trout, resemblance to their parentage. I never ate brook trout, but in appearance, they, (edit: tigers) resemble a Brown, all the way, forgetting the color, just the shape, the cut of the jib, so to speak. To me, a brown trout is a hell of a prize, if you are lucky enough to snag one.

LB

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Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 17, 2020, 09:01 AM:
 
I've never tasted a fresh water fish that can compare with good ocean fish. I'll take rock fish, sword fish, snapper, halibut, and mahi mahi, along with shrimp, prawn, lobster, and crab over the best fresh water fish any day. However if a guy is going to try and eat trout, I like tiger trout the best, then brown, followed by brook trout. A lot of people say rainbow trout has an earthy taste. Let me translate that for everyone. Earthy is code for it tastes like dirt! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 17, 2020, 09:43 AM:
 
Yes, but how about the orange flesh Lake Crowley rainbow that looks like a steelhead?

edit: but I totally agree about salt water fish!

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Posted by ursus21 (Member # 3556) on November 17, 2020, 10:16 AM:
 
I wouldn't know. I've never fished Crowley, but as a rule rainbows with orange flesh have a high content of freshwater shrimp in their diet. Folks say they taste better than the white/lighter colored meat a lot of rainbows have. I have had both light and dark orange meat rainbows. I don't like either, but the dark orange is slightly better. Then again that's not saying much as both taste like dirt to me.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 17, 2020, 04:18 PM:
 
that's very interesting about a diet of shrimp contributes to the orange flesh. As far as the taste of mud, I'd have to go back to my childhood except I do remember marching at Fort Ord with the powdered dust that should have killed us. I would be hacking it up all though dinner chow. I'm positive that these days, somebody would call their congressman on their cellphone and they would restrict those forced marches to pavement. Meaning that the present bunch is coddled and of course, the girls are considered and I probably wouldn't recognize none of it, today.

But yeah, I guess I could remember how mud tastes, if I think about it long enough.

HOWEVER. For me, I could almost not be aware of the taste as I inspect every morsel for all those damned little bones! For me, it's scary eating Rainbow trout. I've seen a few detailed instructions on how to fillet a fish that eliminates bones. For Rainbow's, I'm not impressed, or convinced. Have bread handy.

LB
 




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