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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 21, 2020, 05:06 AM:
Had the fireplace all clean and put up till next winter, runnin a fire this AM yesterday was colder than a well diggers ass could not do it again today !
It was 30 this morning and only 60 in the casa ! too cold for me !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2020, 07:37 AM:
They got this gas, butane or propane that is capable of heating several rooms, not just the one where the fireplace is.
For efficiency, it beats the hell out of a fireplace. You should look into it!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 21, 2020, 09:23 AM:
I have one it was on the other side of the property Not makin that trip in the dark !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2020, 12:56 PM:
I new you'd have an excuse!
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on May 21, 2020, 02:32 PM:
Last few days have a fire night and morning. Just enough at night to warm the house then let it go out and mornings the same way.
Sounds like by morning will need it. Suppose to snow over night but not stick. Hope we don't lose the power again.
The other morning at 0230 we were up and moving plants into the garage because a transformer blew and took our power out for 4 hours or so.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 22, 2020, 04:49 AM:
I go to bed the house is 82 I get up its in the low 60's ! It is very well insulated and retains is heating and cooling well I'm not getting this ! My petunias made it thru my calla
s are gorgeous my geranium's are toast !
[ May 22, 2020, 04:52 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2020, 07:51 AM:
Nobody will miss those stinky geraniums! I have one, in a clay pot that my son gave me 6 or 8 years ago. The damned thing just won't die, but I keep hoping! What anybody sees in geraniums is beyond me? Keep them pruned level with the ground and you might get lucky!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 23, 2020, 04:08 AM:
This is the first time for geraniums up here just wanted the color, would not try to cultivate them I got some unusual colors and thought I give em a try ! most are close to ground level now the weather seems to be going in my direction! 47 outside this morning !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 23, 2020, 04:26 AM:
Everything I am growing is in pot up off the ground on tables or plant stands anything on the ground will be eaten ! Except my Iris nothing eats them !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 23, 2020, 06:10 AM:
I have a full house propane system with floor vents throughout the house cant stand the noise ! I like the wood stove it heats well and the heat lasts unlike propane.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2020, 08:14 AM:
I'm starting to think that you have made a few improvements up there since I was there last? I assume you still have that canvas Quonset Hut? But now you speak in terms of "throughout the house"? What House?
Raised beds sound like the way to go with those resident rabbits under the house?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 23, 2020, 09:54 AM:
I bought and installed a manufactured home 17 ft. by 72 ft. sitting on engineered pads. I put in complete solar and a 2500 gal water tank have my own pump house just like white folks ! I been busy , built a 9x29 quilting room for my wifes 14 ft. Gammill
Weeze just fancy up here in the sticks! Have not done a garage yet that's next not bad for a 70 year old geezer !
Inspector told me the cleanest installation he had ever seen in Ash Fork not sure if that a commentary on Ash Fork or a compliment
[ May 23, 2020, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2020, 01:57 PM:
Yeah, I wouldn't know either, but I know what he meant! Codes are for the dudes down in the Valley.... right?
But, you sure did the smart thing. I hope the appraisers are kind on your property tax base improvements.
Like I said about my solar roof. You wouldn't believe what that did to my assessed evaluation!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: about how far down is the water table? Is a well feasible?
edit: how did you come up with 17X72?
[ May 23, 2020, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 24, 2020, 03:39 AM:
I did not come up with 17x 72 the mfgr. did it was as big as I cold get in a single wide don't want a double and the problems that come with that ! I am no geologist but have worked construction long enough to understand expansive soils .
How is the Faucchi flu treating everybody My life has changed not one bit except to stand in line at Costco!
Thanks Bill Gates !
[ May 24, 2020, 03:46 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on May 24, 2020, 05:58 AM:
I've still been burning a fire too, most mornings. Mostly just because my wife works from home and her office space is in the basement and we all know it's always chilly in the basement. She loves the fire box, and honestly I'm like Paul, I prefer the silent heat from the fire compared to listening to the heater running.
Denver did set a new high record last week. But it was a one day flash in the pan. Back to normal, well, below normal today. We do have a chance for rain finally. Probably won't be enough to pull us out of the drought that we're slumping into. Fingers crossed for an inch of the wet stuff today.
I ran into work yesterday afternoon and the amount of traffic on the road tells me that most people decided that this weekend was a good time to get out. It was the boat, RV, travel show. Not sure where they all were heading, but they were heading out.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2020, 08:45 AM:
I know, and appreciate a fire, and I do have a fireplace that I don't use because it needs cleaning afterwards. If the forced air makes noise upstairs, I don't hear it?
However, for all the intrinsic benefits of a fireplace, we have to admit, the heating efficiency sucks, ever with one of those blower gadgets, it's still warming basically one room.
And, I'm not knocking it. Except for hauling wood, maybe? You go up to the National forest and most of that dead wood has been harvested close to the road and around these parts, you better not be blazing trails. Then too, burning pine and cedar, everybody know the more expensive hard woods can be difficult without a log lighter. I just think a fireplace, while nice, has a few drawbacks.
And, lastly, in this state, they have outlawed fireplaces! How Oprah Winfree gets away with six of them, I don't know?
My brother who lives in God's Country, in Olympia has many "NO BURN DAYS"! Due to the inversion layer. That's specific to their romantic potbellied stoves and comfort fireplaces.
They got ya, coming and going!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 24, 2020, 10:13 AM:
When I lived in Mesa and we had no a burn day that's when a I had fire in the back yard just a bad person fuk em!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2020, 12:58 PM:
Wow! Thanks! Everybody here spends a lot of effort covering for your picadillos and you just let the cat out of the bag!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 24, 2020, 02:39 PM:
Now I know somebody who's picadillo is on the internet.
Not sure how I feel about that.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2020, 04:33 PM:
Play safe and deny knowing the kreep!
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 25, 2020, 04:22 AM:
There is a huge difference between a fireplace and a wood stove fireplace all the heat goes up the chimney wood the heat stays in the room.
The heat that goes up the chimney heats thin wall pipe to radiate more heat. The EPA had a hand in the design surprisingly the are very efficient and smoke very little.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 25, 2020, 04:24 AM:
I almost feel like a communist I said something nice about the EPA! lol
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on May 25, 2020, 06:18 AM:
I'm lucky in that I get free hardwood, other than my labor and chainsaw gas, from my families farm in KS. I never go back home without a trailer behind the pickup to get a load of the good stuff. Since there's always good wood laying around from mostly the rebuilding of fence lines that get over grown with trees, it makes it worth my while.
Was 34 degrees here last night. Lots of rain, 2.15" in the gauge this a.m., and even had a little snow as well. I didn't keep the fire going all night, but I did stoke it before bedtime.
With this rain, we might have some green yet this summer.
I live at elevation where we don't have, "wood burning restrictions". What we do have at times are "no outside burning" restrictions due to dry conditions. We have an outdoor fire pit but we only use it once, maybe twice a year, usually do smores when we have the fire.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 25, 2020, 08:17 AM:
Sounds like you have the issue well covered!
edit: Yes Paul. I appreciate the difference and that's what I'm talking about. My traditional fireplace is not efficient, mostly decorative, comes in handy for hanging stockings at Christmas time.
Oh, and mine has my parent's Burl hanging over it. My wife put her foot down on a muledeer over the fireplace mantle!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 25, 2020, 09:05 AM:
Burl ???
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 25, 2020, 11:56 AM:
YEAH, IT'S A BIG SLAB OF REDWOOD THAT'S VERY POPULAR UP THERE IN WASHINGTON, OREGON.
oops, cap lock!
You must know what it is, having lived up there, maybe you know it by another name? A big, thick slab used as a wall hanging or to make a coffee table. Usually decoupaged.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 25, 2020, 01:25 PM:
Thought that's what it is but wasn't sure.
High $$ tobacco pipes are also made of 'burl' from the root of something.
Do they still allow logging up there or can they only use trees that died of natural causes ???
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 25, 2020, 05:10 PM:
You know, I was always just a tourist. My sister lived in Tacoma and my mom and dad were in Everett, WA however it's spelled, then my mom lived in Olympia after my dad died and my brother still lives in Tumwater. Bunch of 1st cousins in Vancouver, WA and my aunt lives there too. But I really only saw it during the two week summer, so you are asking the wrong person. And there were a few occasions like Christmas and maybe a funeral or two at other times but I'm hardly an expert. I thought you were?
Personally, I would not live up in the Suicide Capital or anywhere where it rains for 180 days straight. The Pacific Northwest, yeah, it's green but you couldn't pay me to live up there!
edit: you know, as far as harvesting those burls, I am not sure about the dead stuff. I think there are any number of specialty shops that might sell eggs and honey and slabs of the crotch burls and driftwood and then people sand them themselves and put some kind of finish on it and display it in some prominent fashion. What I do know is that a lot of people have a hunk of wood somewhere in the house, seemed quite common to me? The one I have is probably 3 foot across or so and it has my Parent's Seth Thomas set of Ships Clock and Barometer mounted on it. They had a 41 footer that they lived on and when they sold it they took the nautical instruments with them, kind of a keepsake. And, I treasure it very much, and she wanted me to have it.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 26, 2020, 04:16 AM:
I would have gone with the burl and the Mule deer, Pipes are made from briarwood extremely hard an beautiful. we get some juniper burl up here some of it very nice the difference is the juniper is a hardwood I run it in my smoker very nice smoke. I refuse to burn pine as it soot's up the chimney. Nothing more stunning than a redwood forest !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 26, 2020, 10:54 AM:
We used to go with my brother in law and his wife to all these boutique places, southwest stuff, everywhere from Taos to Santa Fe and Sedona. In one of those tourist traps I bought a bunch of incense, juniper pellets, and the fragrance was so invigorating!. I bought others, like cedar and I forget, but the juniper was the best, for me. It's long gone.
Another thing you can buy in these type of shops is bundles of sage that you can burn as incense. Nothing wrong with that either! I love the smell of dew drenched sage at the crack of dawn. It's actually exciting, because I usually have some type of firearm in my hands and am about to pursue some type of game, fish or faun. But, wet sage is a magic fragrance!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: one time, I watched a transaction between a proprietor and an obvious Indian selling a bag of bundled dry sage, wrapped with some kind of strips into shapes like fat torpedo cigars. I didn't buy any, but I imagine something like that would smolder for a couple hours. Wish I had!
[ May 26, 2020, 11:02 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 26, 2020, 06:02 PM:
TR, Four years ago last night, Mother Nature cleared a 26-mile long, half-mile wide swath through my hunting area and she cleared out a lot of old growth hedge trees and fence lines. Still an abundance of big assed brush piles across the county that are probably well seasoned for cutting, IF you can cut them.
I think I've got a handle on the Kansas weather lately. Been doing a "study" and impressing folks with my weather forecasting skills. And I don't even need a weather app to know when a storm is coming.
(As I'm typing, there's an Apache helo circling my neighborhood. Ft. Riley's Air Cav has been flying a lot of training over us for the past week.)
Anyway, back to the weather. I've learned that where I live is like living inside an air compressor. If you've ever laid hands on the line between the pump and the tank as it pumps up, you get learned up about physics really fast because that bitch gets hot quickly.
And anyway again, it turns out that colder, drier air sliding down off the Rockies doesn't blend too well with the wetter Gulf air coming in from the Gulf region right over Kansas. As that cold air approaches, and doesn't mix, it bulldozes the warmer air in front of it causing the pressure to increase. Temps go up. At least, until the front gets here, then just like an air valve, that extra pressure is released and the temps fall.
The problems here are that when that air is a lot drier, like along a dry line, things get really shitty, really fast and you end up digging a hole to hide in as that pop off valve releases. Like a lot of you have been discussing, it's been really nice around here temp-wise. Nice and cool, so when the thermometer goes up above normal, all I need to know is when the next front is here that will release that pressure and set off the show. Holds true in the dead of winter and the height of summer heat. People keep saying that the violent weather patterns are global warming. Like hell, it's the cold air colliding with that normally warm air that's raising all the hell.
So far, we haven't heard a tornado siren yet this year, but we're past due. It is what it is.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 27, 2020, 03:17 AM:
Good thoughtful info Lance ! you may be the next Dr. George!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 27, 2020, 07:56 AM:
I miss Dr. George.
Course I miss George Putnam, too.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 27, 2020, 10:12 AM:
You two are guilty of being SoCal Refuges. None of these guys know our lovable geek weatherman Dr George, the guy that put Porterville on the map.
Same thing with George Putnam. He's an institution! He was an Anchorman before anybody ever knew there was such a thing. But, we are talking local newscasts. As far as I know, ol' George was never involved with the three networks, and I don't remember if he worked at an affiliate or one of the independents like KTTV or KCAL or whatever. I don't watch any network news so I'm not up on that part. But George Putnam must have been the most prominent newscaster in Los Angeles during the 50's 60's and 70's.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: what happened? Did Dr George die, or what?
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on May 29, 2020, 03:27 AM:
He was our local Rush Limbaugh.
After the news was given he would do ' ONE REPORTERS OPINION ' clearly separating it from the news !
He was one of a kind !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 29, 2020, 04:04 AM:
Sadly, Dr. George caught the weather balloon to the sky about 5 years ago.
Then there was Jerry Dunphy; always seemed liked a decent sort.
Not to forget the hot chicks. Colleen Williams on one network and some blonde named Christeen something (Lund ??) on another network. Both hot but Colleen was hotter. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 29, 2020, 09:07 AM:
I think Colleen Williams? is still around but boy! the miles are really starting to show. As in; rode hard and put away wet. In LA newscasts these days, I think there is a rule that the "team" has to be black and hispanic.
Yeah, Jerry Dunphy went from the Desert to the Sea and to all of Southern California. He was pretty hot shit at trap and skeet too.
Good hunting. El Bee
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