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Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on November 19, 2018, 05:32 AM:
 
Good Morning DAA. I know you are a jeep fan, and I'm considering purchasing one. My choices are greatly reduced because I need my next hunting vehicle to also be a dingy. In case you are not familiar with the term dingy, a dingy is a Rv'ers term for a flat/4 down towable vehicle. The much liked toyota tacoma 4x4 is not suited for such service since about the 2000 model year. Jeep wrangler's and the Wrangler variations (e.g., Rubricon, Sahara, etc) are all flat towable. I also want four doors.

Question: Is the four door wrangler a good calling vehicle. I know it can get you anywhere you wish to go, but where and how do you store the firearms?
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on November 19, 2018, 06:39 AM:
 
I've never hunted out of a 4 door, but I'm sure that would be easier/better than my 2 door. They are way easier to access gear in the back than my 2 door is.

I just lay the guns on the floor right behind the front seats. Or, depending, just on top of camp gear in the back where I can reach it quick and easy with the front seat folded forward.

Have always called Jeeps behind RV's called toads. First time I've hear it called a dingy. Either one is pretty easy to see what is meant though.

- DAA
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 19, 2018, 08:02 AM:
 
I'm not sure I get it? The time I towed my Datsun pick up, I had to tie the steering wheel. And, boy howdy! Did that ever make the front end of the Ford squirrely! Too much tongue weight, or something? Of course we had a lot of hunting and camping gear in the back of that truck. Made for an exciting trip!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on November 19, 2018, 08:39 AM:
 
Need a manual or t-case w/neutral and no front wheel drive.

Modern automatics and all wheel drives grenade when flat towed.

Some Jeeps do too... Some disagreement on whether to put the transmission in neutral and leave t-case engaged for lube, or not.

Have seen a couple of t-cases grenade while being flat towed though.

- DAA
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 19, 2018, 12:49 PM:
 
Oh, I guess I understand? Yeah, the times I have had a 4 wheel drive vehicle towed they disconnected the drive shaft. But my Datsun was 2 wheel drive had nothing to do with any issue other than the front wheels turning and dragging, but small issue corrected before too far along. That was a long time ago and a long drive and it was scary because there was so little weight on the steering wheels. Nervous wreck driving it, required constant attention. Yes, and stupid, but weren't we all when young?

I damned near had something like that happen on my 74 Power Wagon. I put a smaller size spare on the rear and wasn't too far down the road when it started jumping like crazy. Wound up putting it on the front and drove pretty good, but this 5 lug pattern I think is the same as a Jeep, not very common. On this truck with the undersize spare, if I got a flat on the back and couldn't plug it, involved musical chairs with the tires. And, carrying a bunch of different pieces of wood to put under the hydraulic jack. Remember the time I had two sidewalls slashed on the same road? We should start a thread about bad breakdowns? I could contribute quite a few. lol

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on November 19, 2018, 02:43 PM:
 
Thanks for the information. I'm using this RVers website for information about which vehicles can be a toad. Yes, I've heard this term before.

http://www.motorhome.com/download-dinghy-guides/

The rule I will usually use is read the owners manual. It will be in their if the manufacturer endorses it. Even a Tacoma can be a toad but modifications have to be made. Some mods just don't appeal to me. Even some electronic shift transfer cases can be put into neutral. I have a 2017 chevy one ton duramax 4x4 and it has a procedure to put the T-case into neutral. I haven't bothered to read it because it is my towing vehicle, not my toad. I would prefer to go with a manual shift Transfer case but electronics are taking over the whole damn world IMHO.

MY old 97 Dakota is getting long in the tooth, 212,000 miles, but still a good hunting vehicle. Nothing wrong with it that I'm worried about. Just some pesky little intermittent electronic issues that are telling me it is getting tired of roads that beat both us and the truck up. Luckily I don't need a new hunting rig now. It will be a while before I buy.

In about 40 months, I have one last rental I will have paid off. It will certainly be time to retire the Dakota by then.

Thanks
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 19, 2018, 03:21 PM:
 
Well don't be conned into installing solar in those rentals. I just got my property taxes. Assessment went up about $250X2.

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on November 19, 2018, 03:56 PM:
 
quote:
The rule I will usually use is read the owners manual. It will be in their if the manufacturer endorses it.
Exactly what I'd do.

- DAA
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on November 20, 2018, 04:57 AM:
 
I hate the solar panel industry almost as much a fuel grade alcohol producers. The people that install solar panels receive tax credits and then expect to have access to the grid based upon the amount of electricity they use. Since they have solar they use very little electricity so they pay very little for grid maintenance. My niece's boyfriend went on a vulgar facebook rant against the Arizona corporation Commission for increasing the rate he has to pay for grid maintenance. I have no problem with solar panels as long as they pay their fair share for grid maintenance and stop receiving tax credits. Alcohol is a losing proposition for the american drivers even if they did stop the subsidies.

A funny side note I discovered on craigslist is how some are heavily discounting jeeps that are a strange bizarre color.

Check this out this beauty LOL:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/ctd/d/2018-jeep-wrangler-jk/6751515392.html

It is going for six grand less than the 2017s with more miles.
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on November 20, 2018, 05:25 AM:
 
Here is a response I just received from a company regarding a drive line disconnect for a Tacoma:

"We build more Driveline Disconnect's for Toyota's than any other application. You only need a Disconnect shaft on the rear shaft. You put your Transfer Case in 2WD and Disconnect the rear shaft with the Disconnect, put the transmission in Park ( in gear if manual)and you are ready to tow. You don't need a Pump if you use the Disconnect. You dont ever have to start it up and let it run. Since your Transmission is in Park or gear there is nothing turning in the transmission that needs lubricating. If you need more info please feel free to call us. (928)782-3611"

It sounds reasonable, but I have concerns with it messing up u-joint angles. My concerns would double if the tacoma had a lift kit.
 




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