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Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 01, 2018, 10:05 PM:
...then Ill leave this right here for ya.
https://www.facebook.com/TandCRams
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 02, 2018, 04:37 AM:
I'll pass......had a buddy that did them kind of hunts on a little 15 acre track of land. He would turn the Rams lose the night before the hunters were get there. The hunters would slip out to this feeder that was in the middle of the place and wait for it to go off. The Rams would come to the feeder they shoot one and be done and back to the truck by 8am.
I see( Tebbe) running it....enough said I'm gone.
Fred you might want to let this thread go on by. I ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
No since getting all work up.
[ August 02, 2018, 04:44 AM: Message edited by: Eddie ]
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on August 02, 2018, 04:51 AM:
I wonder if they also supply a great hunt-of-a-lifetime story so you can impress your friends. Or do you have to make that up yourself?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2018, 05:28 AM:
I must say, I don't know Tebbe, just by reputation. Everything I have ever heard and said about that guy rubs me wrong. And yet, there seem to be some people I know that say he's OK. And other indications are that he's borderline suicidal?
Was it AR that had a chatty breakfast with Tony? I asked it a few years ago and he replied, "no, it was lunch". Or, I've got it backwards, "it was breakfast, NOT lunch". Other than that, who picked up the check?
What was it about chained dogs and feeding them a steady diet of coyote carcasses? How did that turn out? Was there an explanation, one that made sense?
Should this man be throttled? How would that work? Is there anything that would keep him quiet besides a straight jacket? I'm just not buying anything he's selling. His photo....why is he hiding his eyes behind the shades? He deliberately picked that one, must have been a reason?
Our thanks to member#29 for bringing this issue to our attention. Now, what's the story? Right away, I'm not sure we need any hunting challenge of a lifetime to compensate for a little dick?
Comments? Be fair. (if possible) We have the right due to his reputation within the predator hunting community, as it states on the ad. He is us and us is him.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: sudden thought! We need Q to get to the bottom of this. Dave, do the secret handshake, get the ball rolling!
[ August 02, 2018, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on August 02, 2018, 06:56 AM:
I cannot understand how anyone can get off killing a captured animal. I have a hunt of a lifetime coming up. I should word it my second hunt of a lifetime: an early Arizona bull elk hunt in unit 6A. I'm pretty much guaranteed an elk unless I get picky.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 08:07 AM:
Nah' Leonard. Were "deranged conspirators"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/01/we-are-q-a-deranged-conspiracy-cult-leaps-from-the-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/?utm_term=.e2fa376890db&n oredirect=on
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 02, 2018, 08:37 AM:
Dave, are you offering goat hunts at your house by any chance? I might book one?
Mark
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 09:17 AM:
It's still in the "under consideration" status @ this point ?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 02, 2018, 09:42 AM:
Cool, let me know...I can see myself now, ranging a sketchy uphill shot at 5 yards-ish..at a monster goat standing on top of your car...
The stuff that dreams are made of.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2018, 09:54 AM:
If only they could talk!
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 10:00 AM:
When they get on the roof of my pickup. I stand there & ponder my shooting skills ?
I think you aim a little low for those steep long range shots ?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 02, 2018, 10:49 AM:
"Hunt" or "Shoot" of a lifetime. ?????
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2018, 12:18 PM:
Yeah.... I was just thinking the exact same thing!
WTF?
How is semi tame goats, the hunting challenge of a lifetime?
That guy is weird. He seems to have a drive to succeed, at something? Maybe he will get lucky one of these days but this particular idea won't do it for him. Doubtful? I hope?
Bill Gates started the same way, suddenly it was the DOS thing and BINGO! He's a Billionaire!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: maybe we are too easy on him? Somebody needs to get in his face! AR? You're up. Sic'em Tiger!
LB
[ August 02, 2018, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on August 02, 2018, 01:40 PM:
"Some of our stud rams from today...and future ones for years to come. Who would settle their peep sight on one of these?"
The question should be, who would want to?
I just can't even believe that there's a market for this sort of thing, but apparently there is? Is it city slickers that know no better? Hell, maybe there's some big corporate business that wants to take all their employees on a "big hunt" and they'd go?
I just don't see it, but I've seen some other what I thought were dumb ideas that seemed to be in demand by someone.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 01:41 PM:
I was just screwin' around. I can't read the Clownbook link @ work.
Are they shooting domestic goats ?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 02, 2018, 02:49 PM:
You guessed it. All penned up and ready to shoot.
Wait! Not as bad as I thought..all free range hunting...
Tony Tebbe: "The rams are in a 6 acre pasture. I have a huge 3 man popup blind and a feeder, in a back corner....thus the reason bow hunt only. I want a challenge, not a fish in a barrel. Not sure on weight, to be honest. 150ish is a guess. Barbado meat is the best tasting meat of all the sheep. We love it!"
[ August 02, 2018, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 03:10 PM:
I might look @ the link later @ home. I'll probably just get pissed off though.
I just thought it was all some kind of joke ?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 02, 2018, 03:19 PM:
Are you at work? Get off the internet!
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 02, 2018, 03:33 PM:
Dave A, turn them loose on the east of the lookout. I call it widow makers face. Plus all the rattle snakes come from that side.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2018, 03:49 PM:
Somebody get that slacker back to work and off the Internet!
You are embarrassing Q! Have you hugged your goat? Today?
But, they are so cute up on the roof of the pick up! You just can't get mad at them critters.
Pics, we need pics!
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on August 02, 2018, 04:31 PM:
The rams are in a 6 acre pasture. wow that would be a real challenge. HAHA
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 02, 2018, 04:38 PM:
So.................
I just watched our President in PA, and decided to log on to surf HM. Then, just haaaaaaad to click on the ram link...
I have no comment.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 02, 2018, 04:47 PM:
Your welcome.
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 02, 2018, 04:57 PM:
Well Fred you handled that better than I thought you would. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 02, 2018, 06:19 PM:
Ive raised more than a few of that breed of sheep. They are called Blackbelly Sheep, although Ive heard people call them Barbados sheep too. Wild sonofabitches compared to other breeds, but Ive not bottle fed any lambs to get them tame, just pen raised for eating.
I suppose to a hunter who paid that kind of money to shoot one would be remiss to say a big nasty ram was good for the freezer, but I wouldn't want to sink a tooth in one.
A nice 7-8 month old wether or ewe, pen rasied and fattened is indeed good eating, but I love lamb, some folks aren't fond of it, and Ive never figured out why, delicious eating, lamb or goat, as long as it was done right.
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on August 02, 2018, 07:18 PM:
I am still laughing about Lone Howl trying to figure out that sketchy uphill shot.
If they are filming, I'm guessing they will edit-out the part where the kids scatter shelled corn in front of the blind?
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 02, 2018, 07:24 PM:
I'll have to dig for some pics of my goats up on the roof of the pickup. Don't hold your breath though, daughter moved out. I'm lost on that shit !!
Wish, I had more goats to help earthwalker.
As far as Tebbe goes. I'm not impressed. I'm working really hard on my temper. I have a lot, I would like to say.
I am Q`
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 03, 2018, 04:55 AM:
I meant it would be a challenging hunt with a bow or slingshot and the retrieval of the goat.
Goats are fun and entertaining and a royal pain in the ass.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 03, 2018, 07:18 AM:
So? Who's game?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 03, 2018, 09:23 AM:
In all fairness to him, hes just trying to make a living I guess, its just smacks of canned hunting..even if its legal its silly, but..he must see a market. And there is a market Im sure.
Also, have to say, he has some good sounds to slap on your E-caller. Gotta give some credit.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 03, 2018, 11:19 AM:
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All available units respond STAT
10-4 out!
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 03, 2018, 11:28 AM:
My Kalifornia is showing? Dang it!
Mark
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 03, 2018, 11:51 AM:
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rogue-goats-boise-idaho_us_5b6472bee4b0fd5c73d9111c
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 03, 2018, 12:30 PM:
Rogue Goats !! lock 'em up !!
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 03, 2018, 02:14 PM:
I believe it was somebody on here, that has met
Tone and described him as "squirrely"
I'm thinking that description still holds very true.
I wonder how the PU is doing? Maybe tame goat hunt are easier to make a buck off of?
A free Ginsu knife with every hunt to sweeten the pot? It's all about marketing, from what I hear.
Posted by Asmith (Member # 4636) on August 03, 2018, 02:17 PM:
I bought couple hand calls from him years ago and they work but all of them make noise but this is little far out there for me . I didn't think paying for predator hunting would go over but what the hell do I know lol .
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on August 03, 2018, 03:04 PM:
A six acre enclosure with a pop-up blind in the corner. It don't get any more canned than that.
If there is a market for such a thing, what a sad statement that sends to hunters.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 04, 2018, 05:09 AM:
A pop up in the corner that'll work when the goats are disturbed they will run the fence line , bingo challenge over !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2018, 06:34 AM:
Doesn't say where the feeder is located, next to the pop up blind?
While some of us would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, I seem to recall mistreated, chained up dogs fed nothing but coyote carcasses. This is an indicator, I personally will not cut him any slack, whatever he does. Anybody that does business with him, I suggest they beware!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 04, 2018, 08:03 AM:
I'll bet.....it will surprise you how many dummies wil go and hunt with him. The man got the gift of gab I'll give him that.
[ August 04, 2018, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: Eddie ]
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on August 04, 2018, 09:56 AM:
I agree with you LB, Some people refer to Tebbe as the John-Henry of NewMex.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2018, 01:15 PM:
snagged in my spam file:
Tony Tebbe tonytebbe@predatoruniversity.comHide
To nbosin nbosin@aol.com
A client notified me that some of your HM members don't think that we are running a legit operation. Let me tell you, these Rams present a more sporting hunt than those semi domesticated California coyotes that you're used to killing.
Our operation is 100% fair chase. Yes, we do have a high fence around the perimeter of the pasture, but that is to eliminate a wounded animal from escaping and later to die a cruel death.To maintain a humanely body condition on our herd, we do subsidize their grazing with grain. Heck, midwest trophy Whitetails have been known to snitch corn right out of the field, yet they're still considered WILDLIFE. Besides, it's archery only, no RIFLES!
Joe from Arizona, who has completed the North American Sheep Grand Slam told me that our hunt was more challenging than his Desert Bighorn tag that he filled last fall. Pete from Colorado, who has taken several B & C Elk says that our Rams make wild elk look like tame horses.
Let's take these lemons and make lemonade. T & C Rams is open for business and if any of your naysayer members want to hunt with us, we'll give them 10% off. That's a great deal on a very sporting hunt for great trophy Rams!
Thank you,
Tony Tebbe
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2018, 01:25 PM:
....and this, not sure who sent it though? Unsigned
The famous TT is still alive? Figured he be dead by now.. LOL Canned goats/rams is nothing new as its been going on in Texas for many years and there pens aren't much bigger than what TT has to offer.. Who would want to do a can hunt in the first place? Usually some gun/hunting buff that has little money for a big game hunt as they are in the thousands of dollars and the person has no place to hunt or not much for public land, yeah we all wish we lived in AZ. or similar where we could hunt most anywhere we wanted any day of the week but like some said its not so in other parts of the country.. I like DAA comment that if he had to ask for permission to hunt he wouldn't hunt, sounds like another free loader and one of the first to complain cause of the wild horses/mules or what have you.. LOL
If I remember correctly isn't Vic a Mormon? If so why isn't he still on the Res./ colony? AS for eating goats we leave it up to the Mexicans up in my part of the country. My brother in-laws son raises about 40 head of meat eating goats and no they not the black-bellied goats but hear they just as good to eat if that's what a person is into.. Thing with Mexicans or even Vic they put so much crap on the meat I doubt you could even taste the actual flavor of the meat and is why they can bare to eat the crap, bet a coyote would taste just as good to them as well if cooked the same..LOL
WE had a old guy that disappeared about a month or two ago, he parked his pick-up at a roadside rest/boat landing by a river and then disappeared. A big search was put on for him, Sherriff dep., K-9 dogs, Fire dep. and a bunch of locals and family. A few days back a guy and his kid are at the rest area and the guys kid gets out of the truck to go take a piss in the woods close by. The kid is taking a piss from behind a tree not far from where his dad is parked and spots a pistol laying on the ground close by and then a watch, billfold, clothes and finally some bones, Wo! this is getting scary.. Welp it turns out it was what was left of the old guy that turned out he shot himself.. The funny part is no one bothered to do a search for the guy close by to where he parked his pick-up.. Stupid!!!! I think they all thought the guy fell in the river when it was flooded due to all the rain we got at the time..
Oh and then we have some 9 yr. old kid playing on a swing and ends up hanging himself by accident. Suppose they will be removed from all the stores shortly due to being unsafe..LOL
As for the coyote howls while on stand I see some are on the same page and still some that are way out in left field and not sure why they even bother to walk out from there truck and try calling in the first place. All they doing is just skimming the cream off the top, most anyone can do that.. LOL
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 04, 2018, 01:36 PM:
Well, Im glad we got all that straight.
All of you are so judgmental! All over a stupid goat!
I hope everyone at HM has learned something from all this.
Mark
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 04, 2018, 03:30 PM:
Good grief, if that email was actually from Tone, it was funny as hell!
Seriously, it was worth several chuckles.
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on August 04, 2018, 04:58 PM:
quote:
Our operation is 100% fair chase. Yes, we do have a high fence around the perimeter of the pasture
Would someone please define unfair chase??
quote:
our hunt was more challenging than his Desert Bighorn tag that he filled last fall
Probably because there were less acres involved.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on August 04, 2018, 05:45 PM:
It's a "Pet and Shoot".
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2018, 05:58 PM:
Yeah, but I got BUTT HURT by him claiming we got, " semi domesticated California coyotes' That remark is ridiculously inaccurate. And what the fuck does he know about it, anyway?
That alone should convince you that it's a true email. Sounds just like him, clueless. I never really got past his silly "Predator University". As far as I'm concerned, he's a friggin' rookie. He has no business claiming to have an enterprise, or business called Predator University. That's a lot of chutzpah, Tony!
HM must be special, a whopping 10% discount! Very tempting!
Good hunting. El Bee
PS but who's the mystery emailer, who shall not be named?
[ August 04, 2018, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 04, 2018, 10:41 PM:
[QUOTE]
I hope everyone at HM has learned something from all this.
Well maybe just a little.
Looks like some one is keeping tabs on HM.
Ain't we special! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 04, 2018, 11:53 PM:
Ok ………. Now that we've all had a chance to take a shot at Tony, I should probably mention that I've hunted goat and sheep on the Calif. off-shore islands. Catalina, Santa Cruz & San Clemente. All bowhunter's Paradise & a tough hunt. Good times & well worth the coin.
I've also hunted 'put & take' pheasant operations.
Rather sporty with the bow, the dogs seemed to have a good time and the other gunners were highly amused & cheered when I connected with a bird in the air. Again, good times & worth the coin.
Now, the 'You kill-em Game Ranches'. Been to a couple of them. They can run anywhere from sporty to 'Let's get the fuck out of here right now.'
One in central Calif. in the 80s.
Huge pastures. Not sure how big, but we seldom saw a fence. No herd was hunted with-in six months of release and the Mexican hands all carried air rifles in their scabbords to snipe at the critters. You didn't just walk up to these animals. With a bow, quite sporty. With a rifle, a bit less.
Another place we went, by the time we caught up to the dogs & the hog, the cowboy had it hog tied and told us "There's your pig. Shoot it." We left that night.
Is there a place for 'canned hunts' ???
Sure.
Getting ready for an out of state big game hunt and want to shake the cob-webs off ??
Want to field test a new bow, arrow, broadhead, rifle, bullet etc. ??
New to hunting and want to build up a bit of confidence ??
Climbing the corporate ladder, don't have time or didn't get drawn ??
Yeah, there's a market for such a well run operation, but 60 acres would make me laugh. Six acres would make me want to puke.
Then there are the African species on ranches in Texas. Critters that can no longer be hunted in Africa because the natives poached them out. Or the cost of driving across a couple of states as opposed to flying to Africa. The right place could be a great deal. The wrong place, not so much.
So.
If....someone spends the time to check references and use common sense, no doubt they can have a good hunt.
And this just in; Bill in Utah writes in that if a tame goat in a 6 acre pen at a feeder is your idea of the hunt of a lifetime, perhaps you would be better off spending your money banging a crack whore with the shakes for excitement. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 05, 2018, 03:28 AM:
A pop up in the corner that'll work when the goats are disturbed they will run the fence line , bingo challenge over !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2018, 05:55 AM:
Stormy Daniels kind of crack whore? Let me think about it.
But, when you said African animals in Texas, (and there are also a bunch of Indian antelope, by the way) I immediately was thinking of African big game hunting as in South Africa. They certainly have fences, high fences. But, where I was, I did not have a "canned hunt" feeling about it. And, thanks to warthogs, the various animals are difficult to keep confined. They dig under the fences and quite large animals that can't jump an 8 ft fence are capable of crawling under one. And, this is a happy situation because almost all hunters have warthog on their bucket list and the farmers, land owners are happy to provide warthog hunting at nominal cost and flexible bag limits.
Personally, I never had a raging desire to hunt Africa, nor have I ever had the means to hunt the big five, but along with what ko ko was saying, once you get past the travel considerations and the technical stuff, in my opinion, a man can hunt (as I did) 8 or 10 different species in 13 days for less money than a Alaskan or Canadian sheep or bear hunt.
It has been said that there exists, in Africa, less wilderness than here in the lower 48, which is hard to believe, but true. In many African countries, the locals would have very little chance of encountering a wild animal. This is why, when they come south from Mozambique, they are in South Africa, but in the middle of the 300 mile Kruger National Park and never seen again, because the lions having learned that natives are much easier to catch than Cape Buffalo. Also, Europeans that insist on getting out of their cars to photograph sleeping lions pay the price. Nancy freaked out one morning when I got out to pick up a tortoise, it was kind of exciting in a shoplifting way. And, to prove that Americans are just as stupid as Europeans, I actually had a baboon reach across me through an open window and grab a damned banana! The guide nearly had a heart attack! Everybody has heard that a baboon has longer fangs than lions, right? Also, believe it or not, they are one of the more difficult trophies in all of Africa and one I wanted and didn't get, but not for lack of trying. Not to mention baboons and warthogs and jackals are just about the only game without a fee of some sort.
I never seriously considered going back but it was a very interesting experience and as I mentioned, South Africa doesn't conger up the canned hunt scenario, certainly not the same as "Hunt of a Lifetime, in New Mexico". The very worst part is the travel. Try to imagine a flight consisting of TWO 10 1/2 hour legs with a 4 hour delay in Amsterdam? A couple of Zombies arrived in Johannesburg! It's a brutal trip and if I ever did it again, (but I won't) it would have to be in First Class. I've only flown first class once in my life, and arrived in New York from Amsterdam drunk! Which had to do with three different liquors served with each meal; I'm not a serious drinker, at all.
Anyway, be careful of the flight to Africa, it's brutal.
Good hunting. El Bee
PS While I was in line at the McDonalds, upstairs, a representative from KLM came to the boarding area & inquired quite publicly, "Mr Bosinski, please report to the ticket counter with your unloaded firearms". Only about 500 people stared at me when I returned with my Egg McMuffins, and Nanc tried to pretend that she didn't know me. (just kidding)
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on August 05, 2018, 07:12 AM:
Well I am Shocked, shocked I tell you that I just learned Vic is a Mormon! Not really, I couldn't GAF who is a Mormon or not.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 05, 2018, 08:01 AM:
Only for clarification, those are sheep, not goats. Blackbelly sheep are classified as a hair sheep, obviously because they do not have wool, like wool sheep most are familiar with.
Easy way to tell the difference is two physical differences easily seen are the tails, which sheep have tails that hang down and are usually docked by growers, so you never see them, but sheep naturally have a longer hanging tail. Goats have tails that they hold up and are short compared to sheep.
Sheep have scent glans at the corner of the eyes close to their nose, goats do not.
I know, minor point, but one worth knowing if your in a conversation about goats and sheep with someone who knows the difference.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 05, 2018, 03:53 PM:
You couldn't pay me enough $$$ to hunt Africa.
Well...Ya could, but it'd be an outrageously prohibitive sum...
And, goats are friggin' delicious! Had an ex who's dad was 'off the boat', and he'd make special trips with his goombahs just to get fresh goat meat. Man, they make good gravy...
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on August 05, 2018, 05:08 PM:
I am picturing you (Fred) saying "Goombah" with that NY accent, sounding like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. <LAFFIN>
I have a friend that used to go to Africa for hunts. He even hunted with Ted Nugent, which I thought was pretty cool. He tried to get me to go. But Africa scares me now. Just like Ole Mexico does.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2018, 05:35 PM:
Victor, you had the chance to clear this up and, as usual....well, ya didn't.
Are you of the Mormon faith? Not that I care but I "thought" you gave the impression that you were not a man of faith? I'm trying to imagine you in an apron.
As far as eating goats, with so many choices out there, it will be a long time before I try it.
Good hunting. El Bee
I'm a Catholic, by the way. Almost the same thing, right? Try and find a pole who isn't Roman Catholic.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 05, 2018, 06:06 PM:
I'm with you Leonard so many choices out there. No interest on my part either.
Beef it's what's for dinner..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2018, 06:30 PM:
EXACTLY
edit: I told this several years ago but Dave wasn't around then.
Anyway, during the preparations for my African hunt, the subject of food came up and I treated it casually. He wanted to know what I liked to eat and I figured like everybody else. I said Oh...I like a steak and breakfast? You know, bacon and eggs, the usual. Didn't know what else to say and I didn't interpret the question as asking me for a complete 13 day menu, but it turned out, that's exactly how he took it. He served me steak for dinner every single day and for breakfast, every single day, it was bacon and eggs. The first morning he brought in a tray and I poured coffee, added a half a spoon of sugar and some milk, a medium amount. Thereafter, for 12 days, he brought me my coffee already fixed the exact way I made it that first morning. He was paying attention! LB
[ August 05, 2018, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 05, 2018, 07:39 PM:
Damn that sounds like a good routine to me !!
Tacos for supper tonight along with the neighbors fresh corn on the cob. Cows & goats dined on more stalks.
Bacon & eggs from my own hens in the am. Probably grill a steak tomorrow night for supper.
Yum !!
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 06, 2018, 06:40 AM:
When I raised dairy goats I used to sell the males I would put a sign on the street in front of my little truck farm Said Chivos they were gone same day within an hour ! They love their barbacoa ! I know well the difference between goats and sheep but not sure TT does.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 06, 2018, 08:43 AM:
I must be missing something.
When I was hunting Catalina I would bring goat meat back with me. The experienced guys just laughed at me.
Even the backstraps tasted like a fart smelled no matter how I fixed them.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 06, 2018, 09:08 AM:
Soooo... how did those backstops compare to coyote? Better, same, not as good? I give you credit for trying to eat it. I wouldn't.
I think I have heard accounts of hunters eating coyote and vomiting almost immediately? That good?
I admit to being a finicky eater of exotic flesh. Getting back to Africa, there are several resort complexes scattered within the huge Kruger National Park, with very large restaurant facilities, kinda like pavilions. But the interesting part is the menu contained a very large assortment of wild game meat from animals within the park borders. Seems that a lot of foreigners are very curious to taste this exotic meat. One thing I was aware of is that the meat didn't come from within the park because I met the guy that hunted those animals and sold the meat to the park. He was also a knife maker and I had him build a knife for me with the scales/handles I provided from one of my warthogs. I did that with a zebra drum and a fly swatter made from the tail of a black wildebeest. I was just looking for oddball trophies and I did some European style skull mounts too, same reason.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 06, 2018, 11:06 AM:
Hey, dog is eaten all over the world so why not coyote ???
Well, I'll tell you why not. IT TASTES TERRIBLE !!!
Not sure which is worse; coyote or Catalina goat. Sorry that I'm even thinking about it and may need to wash the memory of the taste out of my mouth with a Rum Chata Fireball. (Two shots of each over ice !!! )
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 06, 2018, 11:42 AM:
I notice my so helpful spellcheck converted BACK STRAPS for me when I wasn't paying attention.
"backstops"?
[ August 06, 2018, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 06, 2018, 01:13 PM:
Goat is excellent eating, but it must be young goat, just like lamb. Mature goats and sheep, both have a pretty strong taste to them. I really like lamb, cooked rare of course, and kid goat the same, that is grilled though, cooked other ways where the meat is fall apart tender, they are both very good.
I usually raise a couple lambs every year, two cut up provide just enough to last thru the year.To my mind it has a hint of venison, my son says the same thing, but it does have a taste some just don't like and Im not sure why?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 06, 2018, 02:32 PM:
In my case, I just don't like strange tastes, no matter how people try to convince me that it's great. It's a concept thing, Alligator might be very good eating but the animal looks vicious, and it's a dinosaur survivor. Ugh. I guess I'm a pussy? Anyway, what's wrong with beef, maybe chicken?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 06, 2018, 03:34 PM:
What Mr. Vic said about goats, they gotta be young ones!
I've been eating enough fresh sashimi lately that I prolly glow in the dark from elevated mercury levels. Thankfully, have enough corn fed venison in the freezer to break the monotony. Friggin LOVE deer meat, maybe that's why I dig lamb & goat, too? Same difference, kinda, sorta...
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 07, 2018, 03:24 AM:
You no what's funny, is that I grew up dirt poor and never ate sheep or goat. Now don't get me wrong I would have ate it if we had it. Grew up eating beef, pork, and anything wild that we could get. Didn't eat no possum or skunk though. Strange how location plays a roll in what people eat. Around here in Pawnee county you never seen a goat or sheep, just beef or pork.
[ August 08, 2018, 02:11 AM: Message edited by: Eddie ]
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 07, 2018, 03:25 AM:
My male Chivos were all sold months old for barbacoa never sold an old goat , I have eaten it not a fan nor do I like lamb it had an after taste that was not pleasing to me! I think I was raised on beef and that's what I like I think if I had been raised eating various meats I would like them all. But remember everything tastes like chicken and chicken tastes like shit ! never eat any meat from a market you don't know where its been !
Dave Warren is up this weekend gonna go kill some shit he says Hi to all , Mouse Dipper to all you coyote gods guys !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 07, 2018, 03:26 AM:
Cant keep my puter from double posting not sure if its me or the site every time I hit the back button it posts again, Fred Help!
I am a digital cripple !
someone come take these things away from me !
[ August 07, 2018, 03:34 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 07, 2018, 07:22 AM:
Paul;
Try this.
After you post, instead of hitting 'back' scroll up to the top and hit 'forum home'.
Might help. No guarantees.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 07, 2018, 08:05 AM:
Yeah, everybody's double posting. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I don't think you have to do anything after posting. If your provider or your computer is that slow, don't try to help it along by clicking on any buttons.
good hunting. El Bee
edit: my computer says: "sit tight, we are taking you back, etc."
so I don't know why you folks are trying to navigate? It should take you back automatically to view the thread in which you just posted, as in automatic.
edit: PS It's no big deal though. Don't worry, I can very easily delete double posts. I'd like to help but I really don't understand the problem?
[ August 07, 2018, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 07, 2018, 08:16 AM:
Oh, I just remembered what I was going to say, in the first place!
About goat having an "aftertaste". If that is anything like the aftertaste I get from any kind of DIET SODA, I completely understand! I will not ever drink diet soda unless it's an accident! How in the hell can people stand that stuff?
Also, I think diet soda is what makes people fat! Because it's all fat people that drink that shit and look at them!
Drink diet soda, get fat!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on August 08, 2018, 07:26 AM:
I think there has been several studies that show diet soda does make one fat. It has something to do with how those un-pronounceable chemicals that are in that shit fools the body.
Back to goats, my dad ran a BBQ/beer joint when I was very little where he'd cook mostly pork, lamb and mutton but I remember him talking about cooking quite a few goats.
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 08, 2018, 10:54 AM:
Semp how was the BBQ?
Don't get no better than tator salad , bake beans and some good BBQ.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 09, 2018, 12:04 PM:
Meawhile..at Tebbe's house...
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GOATS by Lonehowl, on Flickr[/IMG]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 09, 2018, 12:11 PM:
The only thing wrong with that picture is that there are still some leaves on that tree....and it ain't dead, yet.
Other than that, it's funny as hell. Also, I have seen exactly the same thing one time visiting a friend of Nancy's out in Boron. Only it was spring and they were fruit trees and the goats were making sure no blossoms survived.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: apparently there weren't any cars to climb on?
[ August 09, 2018, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 09, 2018, 02:13 PM:
That's an example of the kind of tough uphill shot that makes for a true challenge of a lifetime !!!
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on August 09, 2018, 03:25 PM:
Now that's what I'm talking about! Now if they could fly that would be a tough hunt.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 09, 2018, 05:04 PM:
I'm thinking if I rested my rifle over some bags on the hood say about 15-20 yards ? I might be able to pick that white one off in the upper left hand corner. Will have to spin the knobs of course. That's if there is no wind !!
I don't know though ? I'm not trying to come across as some kind of internet warrior. I think, I probably could pull it off ?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 09, 2018, 07:05 PM:
Have you been thru Predator University's marksmanship course? If not...than no....keep dreaming.
Mark
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 09, 2018, 07:40 PM:
No, I haven't !! Damn it !! A guy can dream though ?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 09, 2018, 08:01 PM:
If you are any kind of shot at all, taking out the front legs, he should fall right on top of the big brown momma for a Twofer. All you need is an accurate AR, and they all are. Should be a piece of cake. Oh, and you do your part.
What, 8 1/2 of 'em, You should be able to easily run the table; to use a pool table metaphor. Good luck, y'all!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 10, 2018, 04:14 AM:
Now that's funny !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 10, 2018, 07:38 AM:
Yeah, they all are. <snort>
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