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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 22, 2018, 08:02 AM:
 
Shit ! brrrr !
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 22, 2018, 08:59 AM:
 
[Big Grin]
I drive a fork-lift on night shift........lemme see if I can find you some sympathy.. Nope!

I told one of the cart pushers who was half frozen "Hey, if you don't like cold weather you shouldn't have moved to Arizona."
He hasn't spoken to me since.

It was 26* on my patio last night. Living in Paradise ain't for sissys but the wood-stove & the sunrises make it all worthwhile.
And the quail.......got about 50 quail in the back yard right now. [Smile]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 22, 2018, 09:28 AM:
 
No, wait!
WHY WASN'T I TOLD!
NOW WHAT?

This blows up all my plans!

I was assured, that Arizona is tropical? I remember one of our members talking about "cut offs" and flip flops all winter long. The name escapes me right now, but it starts with a k.
Anybody?

It's only sposed to get to 65 today in Upland. So, I'm not going outside until it warms up!

All this cold weather proves GLOBAL WARMING!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on January 22, 2018, 09:32 AM:
 
I"m glad to see it cool off. It happened on the 20th and it was a perfect day to call. Unfortunately the coyotes had a different idea. The 20th was the multiclub hunt. This year we had four clubs participating. My club, Phoenix Varmint Callers, took first place with 140 points with 2 foxes and 6 coyotes harvested. The second place club was Xtreme Predator Callers, XPC. They finished with 130 points with 9 foxes and 2 coyotes. XPC usually wins because they concentrate on cats which is why they get so many foxes. The total body count was real low considering how many teams where afield. PVCI had 7 teams afield. I cannot tell you what Arizona Predator Callers did because I left check in at 8:30 at which time APC had one coyote. The fourth club I am not familiar with and they didn't have anything when I was there. Dammit, the winners have to provide the dinner at check in.

[ January 22, 2018, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: Aznative ]
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 22, 2018, 09:47 AM:
 
[Eek!]
You mean cut-offs & flip-flops ...... OUTDOORS ???
Maybe this afternoon when it warms up a bit more.
It's still about as cold as a mother-in-law's greeting kiss this morning.
It's OK, though. We're past the Solstice, the Equinox is coming and the young man's thoughts turn to..........Bowfishing Carp Spawning In The Shallow Water !!!!!!
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 22, 2018, 11:18 AM:
 
Now that you mention it, I have seen places in Mexico, which never gets as warm as Arizona and these places all had windows but no glass. As in, outside and inside was the same temperature, with shade.

I also have been soaked by a sudden downpour, just crossing the street, in Arizona, probably as a result of GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE. This proves nothing, but 26degrees on ko ko's patio is genuinely something of concern, if you expect this Amigo to pull up stakes and emigrate eastward, no more than 500 miles. Because then, I'd be in a new Mexico.

Do they have monsoons in Safford? I forget? Quickly, what was it that lured you to Safford? Don't say, the climate! I mean, is there a choice in decent Mexican restaurants within walking distance? Is housekeeping services reasonable? Do you need a license to operate a forklift in Arizona? At Walmart? In Safford?

So, what's the good news, if the climate is suddenly ca ca? And, don't tell me; but it's a dry heat!

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: beat you to it! NO DAYLIGHT SAVING!

edit: and can you drive your forklift home for lunch on the graveyard shift? In your flip flops and ear muffs?

[ January 22, 2018, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on January 22, 2018, 12:38 PM:
 
Yes Leonard, they do have the monsoon season in Safford, and the monsoons start earlier in the Southeastern deserts.

Just be aware, the Mormons will want you to join the brotherhood.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 22, 2018, 01:05 PM:
 
GASP!
 
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on January 22, 2018, 01:25 PM:
 
This reminds me of when I asked a friend where did the old saying come from: "Colder than a Witches tit". His response was "my 3rd wife was a witch, and she had the coldest tits he had ever touched".
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 22, 2018, 04:05 PM:
 
[Cool] Ah.............The Monsoon !!!!
No fireworks display that you've ever seen can match the grandeur of a lightning storm in the desert on a warm summer night.
Then a quick rain shower and everything just smells right with the world.
Unless you're camped in a dry wash; then you got problems.
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on January 22, 2018, 06:07 PM:
 
Mormons in Safford ? Holy Cow !!

Don't worry about it if you move there LB.

Ain't no biggie. I'm surrounded by Mormons & Mennonites. We call it the M&M around here !!
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 22, 2018, 06:13 PM:
 
One word: Colorado City
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 23, 2018, 12:33 AM:
 
Was 12 last nite got up to 40 tee shirt weather I dont own flip flops those are for Californians LOL
think I love my wood stove ! Life at 5250 ft.!
Dave can't imagine your winter ! or Earthwalker's !
 
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 23, 2018, 02:14 AM:
 
5:11 am and it's 50.4 outside here in Tellico Plains,TN. Sure beats what it is in Ruth, NV.right now.
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 23, 2018, 04:36 AM:
 
Ain't you glad you moved!
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 23, 2018, 06:25 AM:
 
Dave;
I've always wondered what the basis of the Mennonite faith is ???
I know that they're somewhat clannish, hard-working and close to the Amish but embrace more modern items like trucks over horse & buggy.
Any insight on what separates them from other faiths ???
Thanx.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 23, 2018, 09:30 AM:
 
REPLY: None whatever?

How do you distinguish them from the Polygamists? Or, space aliens, for that matter?

Our General manager was/is an elder of some sort in the Mormon faith. He brought in a decent looking young man from his church that had decided he weren't gonna go on "Mission." I don't know what the deal was but he seemed a normal type, in the broad sense of the word? Of course, that sort of thing, (as I understand) is almost unforgivable. I don't even remember what happened to him, and who cares?

I also "know" a woman who's husband left her, and she was a good obedient Mormon wife and all. First thing she did was get a boob job. This woman would never need to wear a bra, but damn! those nipples were, well, memorable! Others I am aware of are like sucking on a peanut, in the shell. <shrug> Yes, there seems to be a wide variation in.... whatschamacallit? Anyway, Loralee had some very interesting nipples, hard to explain?

Where were we? Yes, I am aware that our Mormon friends are out there, and in many states besides Utah. Around here, the young men wear black slacks and a white short sleeve shirt with tie, some type of trainers and a stupid looking helmut and riding a bicycle. In pairs, always. You can't miss them, or mistake them. A rite of passage, I'm sure. A male, in the Mormon faith has it made. You will not fail. That's about all I know, or "think" I know?

Mennonites? I wouldn't recognize one if I saw one? Do they dress like Amish? Haven't seen them either, except on TV. Every once in a while I see a church with a sign saying, "Coptic" and apparently that is an ancient religion from Egypt? I think it's kind of Christian?

I hold no grudges against any religion, including Jews, but I am deeply suspicious of Muslims. So, sue me. What's the point of blowing up total strangers? I do not get it?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: PS, I do not know his reasons, but for what it's worth, Ruth, Nevada is good looking country. Very remote, along the "Loneliest Highway in America" US 50. I love it. LB

[ January 23, 2018, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 23, 2018, 11:32 AM:
 
Islam is not a religion its an ideology and a dangerous one.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 23, 2018, 02:31 PM:
 
Okay, I accept that clarification.

I will repeat something I have said many times. That if there is another full scale WORLD WAR, it will not be these countries versus those countries, exactly. It will be a Religious War and it will be forced on everybody by radical Islam.

I'm convinced the next war will be every country, every faith every race aligned against Muslims. Not that everybody will pursue Islamists but reasonable people will grow tired of the radical and their outrageous actions.

This war that I can see coming in ten years, or fifty years, I can't tell how long normal people will continue to accommodate these radicals, but I think it's coming and it won't end well for the Muslims. It will shut them up for a couple centuries, but the bastards won't give up until they are culled from the population.

Basically, they have nothing, this "religion of peace". Walking around in robes and sandals and a stupid towel wrapped around their head is strictly Ninth Century and they haven't advanced culturally a nickel's worth since then. This Jehad against Jews is ridiculous. Against the WEST. Against the Modern World!

I once sort of worked with a Muslim, he was Pakistani. Actualy, he was part of a contractor crew that was in our plant for two days. He seemed reasonable, almost normal the first morning. After lunch, something happened. He accused me personally of something I was never able to figure out? He started talking exactly like a bomber type, very calm about what he would do, if called upon. It was so clear that the guy had no fear of death, it was reasonable and normal and I was astounded by how casual he talked about his sacrifice, if called by Allah. A true religious NUTCASE. And yet, four hours earlier, he looked and acted completely normal. It was scary. But, that's it, I have realized this truth ever since and it was way before 9-11, around 1985 or so? We need to kill these guys, they truly want it. It's a no lose situation, a martyr for Allah goes immediately to Paradise where he will be greeted by 72 virgins. He didn't get into the nuts and bolts of the promise but I could see that he was sold on the inevitable. If he didn't die then, well, there was the next time. How can you understand somebody with an attitude like that? And, this wasn't on TV, and it wasn't since 9-11, it was many years before any of this stuff, and I have known. This is the way of the world for them. Like any unreasonable fruitcake, you will be forced to kill them or be killed.

Of course, most of Europe will be already converted. This country might be the last great hope for humanity. Oddly, I think Russia will be on our side, the population contains a lot of Christians. It's coming people. They won't let us avoid it.

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on January 23, 2018, 06:11 PM:
 
Koko: I'll tell ya what I know.

Nobody around here heard of a Mennonite until about 15 years ago. They have a colonization committee or committee's ?

They seek rural areas, based around agriculture. They are farmers-custom farmers-welders-construction ect. Blue collar all the way.

Women don't work jobs. They are like modern Amish, I guess ? they use modern farm equipment, cell phones & internet. No TV..

Social media is not allowed, they do have their own blog groups though. They have a church & school just down the road from my house. They go to 8th grade & they graduate.

Women wear homemade dresses & a black bonnet on top. Men wear the usual jeans plaid shirts & such.

The men wear short trimmed beards. I think they grow it when married. Some don't have beards because not all men can grow one. That's ok though.

The ones around here came from Central Valley Kalifornia or Kansas, near as I can tell ?

Oh on another note you are right they are clannish as you can probably tell from my post. Yet on the other hand, I've been invited down to the church several times now. Chili feeds & such, recently a Christmas deal for kids. Never been yet, I'll go to one though some time for the heck of it. They are expanding and have a church on the other side of the river in Oregon. They are farming over there now. I probably know 80% of 'em around here ?

Whew, I'm tired [Smile]

[ January 23, 2018, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 23, 2018, 07:29 PM:
 
Ok, Thanx !!
I would personally take them up on the invite. Foods no doubt pretty good and chatting with them about their faith would be interesting.
We had some Mennonite back in Mich. but I never really got to know any of them. They never struck me as the raving, wild-eyed, fanatic wearing a bomb vest type and I regret not learning more about them and the Amish.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 23, 2018, 07:34 PM:
 
You need to look for a minor fault in the palm of their hand. They can shift shape too. Their eyes have a vertical pupil, just like viper. And, they want to take over our world. They incubate their larva in pods, hidden in caves and warehouses. The adults can hypnotize, read minds and you are powerless to resist unless wear a tinfoil hat. This is no bullshit, I read it on Infowars.

I can't prove this, but I heard their headquarters is deep inside the pyramids, there's actually a secret entrance. I'm talking at least two of the bigger ones, like an anthill they are loaded with 'em, like zombies! Captain Video used to have all this information but they, (the CIA) put him under house arrest last summer, waterboarded, the whole nine yards.

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on January 23, 2018, 08:01 PM:
 
I think Leonard is right. Its possible they might have got here VIA some type of star gate ?

My guard is certainly up. In the summer in downtown Ontario they have some kind of market deal ? they sell home made stuff.

I've heard the pies are spectacular ?

If, I buy one. I'll give a bite to my dog first. Wait I love her, dang, what's a guy to do ?
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on January 23, 2018, 08:38 PM:
 
Paul: before I hit the rack..Lol

I'm unsure if our winters are all that different ?

Last year was the shitz..4'-5' of snow depending. 20 below a few times.

On average, I would guess about a foot or so of snow is normal. The coldest so far this year was 8 degrees above. Many nights in the lower teens.

We are on the lower end of the valley & fog is an issue. Say temps are in the teens & foggy=cold as shit !!

Sometimes wind chill is a factor. Not a biggie. We have three rivers come together here, they can create their own weather somehow ?

[ January 23, 2018, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
 
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 24, 2018, 01:01 AM:
 
I see yesterday was a warm one but today is a bit more normal at 39 degrees this morning.
Speaking of Mennonites, There is a farm market just over a mile from me and they do produce a lot of vegetables and baked goods and some craft type stuff ,rugs, carpenter bee traps etc,etc.
You do have to watch out on the roads as they drive horse and buggies around here anyways. They seem to be very friendly and all wear the same cloths it seems. Was told they have their church meetings at each others homes instead of a regular church building. There are 3 communities of them around where I live here.
And churches, wow, in the local rag they have a listing of churches that takes up 2,yep, two pages.Mostly all Baptists.But there is one LDS church and one Quaker church.
I got married to a Mormon girl and her tits are pretty nice and warm though.LOL.
I know leaving Nevada was a severe change for me and I can not tell you how much I miss those wide open spaces I got accustomed to. But when you are offered a home to live in and land for free I bit the bullet and moved. Otherwise I would still be Fagafornia bashing from Nevada.
And speaking of Fagafornia.I heard on the news that enlightened state wants one half of the tax break money the companies get from that new tax deal in their state.What is that about? Seems beyond stupid.
And that's enough dribble from me for the day. I'm gonna go back to bed and play with those warm tits lolAfter I let the dog back in the house.
 
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on January 24, 2018, 05:52 AM:
 
From what the long time locals say we're having a normal winter. At least in the valley. Very little snow, haven't plowed once this season. Only had a handful of nights below zero. It's 12 degrees right now. I'll take this any day over that crap in the Boise valley. Smog, fog, damp weather. Get some snow then it warms up and rains it off and turns everything to ass deep mud.

With all the modern high tech clothing winters arent bothering near as much as it use to. Also doesn't hurt to have a over built insulated house to stay warm in.
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 24, 2018, 06:01 AM:
 
Snow not so bad ,Rain also not so bad , it's the friggin mud I cant stand.
 
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 24, 2018, 07:49 AM:
 
Yes, lots of Mennonites here in the Central Valley. Seem like nice enough people, but dress funny.
Mark
 
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on January 24, 2018, 08:10 AM:
 
Folks had milk cows when I was in grade school. Thought the world was nothing but cow chit and mud to my knees. Hated winter! Taken me a long time to embrace winter.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 24, 2018, 10:12 AM:
 
Well, me and winter have never gotten along. I LITERALLY walked to St Helena's at least a mile away, from the 3rd grade until Jr Hi School. I have problems with dead capillaries in my fee ever since. My feet are the first things to get cold. That Catholic school didn't have any busses. Even today, I drive past Magnolia, the school where my children and grandchildren went, attended. Same thing, no bus service but there are a hundred parent vehicles lined up at 2:30 every day, it's a real traffic jamb on 15th. Kids are lead out and released to a parent, (mandatory) or many times, a grandparent, some walk, but it seems like three quarters of them drive to pick up the kids. Times have sure changed. And, it hardly ever gets below freezing, here. I suppose the younger generation thinks I exaggerate about walking to school in minus 20* weather as a 7 year old? It's the absolute truth.

Anyway, you couldn't pay me enough to go back and live in Minnesota. I hated to leave, at the time, but at age 12, I didn't have a vote. Since then, I have never again stepped foot in that state. Bone chilling winters, spring thaw exposing the preserved dog shit on the lawn, summer mosquitoes, and in the fall, had to get up the storm windows, or else!

Not only that, but for some reason, Minnesota must think of itself as a Liberal outpost in the midwest just like New York and California. In other words, their politics are far Left. I wouldn't last because that's another unfortunate trait of Liberals, they are intolerant of any opinion besides their own. How "progressive"!

Stay away. Fishing ain't even that great.
End of rant

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 24, 2018, 10:17 AM:
 
You know, Weatherby is pulling up stakes in Kalifornia and moving to Wyoming. Still, a bit cold there I hear?
Mark
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 24, 2018, 11:46 PM:
 
LB was your walk uphill both ways ! just kidding . IT's the same here if you do anything do It before 10:30 That's when the ground starts to thaw and the mud arrives nothing like what Minnisotaaa or Earthwalker have to endure but my own little winter pain in the ass.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 25, 2018, 10:36 AM:
 
Yea, uphill both ways! Sounds like you've been there?

Over at Sibley Field, the skating rink was in a rectangular bowl with a curb and when it got cold enough, the Fire Department would flood it and by the next morning, Bam! frozen solid. I think it was regulation hockey rink size? I always thought the coolest thing would be speed skates but always got hockey skates at the skate exchange, meaning I always wore someone else's used skates. The way kids feet grow from one year to the next, shelling out for new skates every year was a luxury. But, everybody had skates, mandatory; sorta. This was Minnesota.

We had what was called, a WARMING HOUSE. Wood ramps and the biggest pot bellied wood burning stove I ever saw, with a pipe railing and benches all around it so you could prop up your feet and thaw them out. I used to be out there with the best status symbol, a hockey stick 'til late at night, pushing around a home made puck made out of hard wood. Real rubber pucks were rare. I wouldn't go into the warming house until I couldn't feel my feet, at all. This was Minnesota; total clucks. And, everybody was, and still is, a Olson, Anderson, Ericson and they even called it, Little Sweden. I don't miss it.

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on January 25, 2018, 11:56 AM:
 
On the subject of the Amish (don't know any Mennonites), they are God's scourge on wildlife. At least here in Kaintuckee. They think the Almighty put animals here for their use. Doesn't matter that the deer, rabbit, squirrel, turkey, etc is on your property, doesn't matter that the season is closed, doesn't matter how or what they use to kill 'em. They are God's gift for them to use. The guys I know who live near them, hate them.
 




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