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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 18, 2017, 07:37 PM:
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/category/shot-show-2017/
Colt Cobra:
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/classic-reborn-colts-cobra-38-special-snubbie-shot-show-2017/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20170118_SHOT17_2&utm_campaign=/blog/classic-reborn-colts -cobra-38-special-snubbie-shot-show-2017/
[ January 18, 2017, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 19, 2017, 02:02 PM:
Well this thread was a big hit.
Lol..
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on January 19, 2017, 02:13 PM:
49,
No worries! I have been getting updates from one of my customers that is there. I have been drooling since Monday!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 19, 2017, 02:17 PM:
I own a Python but carry a Ruger LCP.
Hopefully, Colt will survive their business problems. They're known for quality products.
Hell...........at one time ('bout a hundred years ago) they even made a decent recurve bow.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on January 19, 2017, 02:26 PM:
Awful difficult to get excited about a Colt revolver, although I wish I had acquired a few pythons back in the day, I could turn a pretty profit about now?
For anyone who actually uses and appreciates a revolver, Colt isn't the first revolver that comes to mind. They have a notoriously piss poor action, a cylinder release latch that is ass backwards for any kind of speedy reload and a damned cylinder that turns backwards!
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 19, 2017, 02:53 PM:
I hate the backwards cylinder rotation and the rear pulling release.
I like the Colt mystique though.
Thanks guys..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 20, 2017, 06:27 AM:
As little I know about revolvers, I didn't know that anybody else felt the same way about the two features mentioned above. The Ruger and Smith are so much more user friendly, especially that stupid latch which is ass backwards. I always thought all Colt's were admired more for some mystic than valid reason.
What's more, I have never owned one, (except my Combat Commander) but this snake bullshit is way overdone. Fit and finish is adequate though.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 20, 2017, 05:47 PM:
Well....don't know anything on the hand gun front, but Nosler released a new cartridge, the 22 Nosler. Lb, they must have been listening.....it brags of velocities greater than 223, but can still be run in an ar15 platform....mag change is all thats needed.
I wonder what it would be like necked down to .20 caliber?
Maintain
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 20, 2017, 06:50 PM:
Requires new upper as well according to the release I read.
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 20, 2017, 07:22 PM:
My understanding too as well Lance, but kinda took that for granted being it would require new chambering. Would there need to be mods to the upper receiver? I know bolt face is the same.
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Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 21, 2017, 03:12 AM:
What's the advantage to the new Nosler round?
Anybody have ballistics on it?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 21, 2017, 07:31 AM:
Nope, not me? If it's on any type of AR platform, I'm not interested. There are already plenty of chambering available for that type of firearm, it's not like the world has been waiting for the Second Coming.
Okay, a faster 22 caliber, <yawn> don't they already chamber for the 22-250Remington? Who needs more than that in an AR? Actually, I'm not sure of that? Who knows?
Besides, I live in The people's republik, we can't have that stuff anymore.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 24, 2017, 08:07 PM:
Well hell.....I was positive an improvement over the .223 for an AR would just scream "Lb"....besides, I thought you were moving to Az.....Vic said he left you some bologna.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on January 25, 2017, 04:41 AM:
the .22Nosler is basically a modified/necked down 6.8 SPC. With the main exception being, a rebated rim that allows for use with a .378" (.223 based) boltface. Without the rebated rim, that case would require a .423 boltface, same as the 6.8SPC, 6.5Grendel, 6WOA, and all of DTECH's "DTI" wildcats...
Based on capacity alone, reckon the .22Nosler would fall somewhere between the .223AI and .22-250 in performance.
After having shot a "DTI" wildcat AR-15 for a while, I came of the opinion that 6.8SPC sized cases were more suited to the AR-15, than the .223 sized cases were. In that regard, Nosler might be onto something?
Agree with Geordie, would sooner neck that bitch down to .20 cal, and let it eat! Likely because, the .22-243AI has fuckin' ruined me for anything smaller in .224 caliber...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 25, 2017, 08:20 AM:
Yeah, that baby really screams LB! I'm sorry, and an old foggie but I can't get excited about AR's, or even the Sig. version, if Victor is listening?
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Agree with Geordie, would sooner neck that bitch down to .20 cal, and let it eat! Likely because, the .22-243AI has fuckin' ruined me for anything smaller in .224 caliber...
Yes, I could say that too, since I have been using the 22-243Midd for quite a while now.
HOWEVER, let me tell you, since I own a couple, that there ain't NO flies on a nice 22-250Ackley, properly configured. I say that because with the right powder, I can get a 22-250AI to perform right up there with any improved 22-243 and do it with 4 grains less powder. I don't believe there is a better (all around) coyote cartridge on the planet than the 22-250Ackley; it get's my vote.
Good hunting. El Bee
PS go ahead Fred, I can't wait to hear it! lol
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on January 25, 2017, 08:33 AM:
Nope, not interested in 'cattin' that Nosler. If I did build another .20 cal, it'd be a 5x45AI (.20-223 Improved 40°)
P.S. sidetrack:
Going to re-visit the .22-243AI with a slow(er) 1:12 twist barrel, and see how fast it'll throw a 60gr JLK. Better make at least 4150 from a 26" tube, or I'll be disappointed! Hoping for 4250+, from oodles of RL-17. We'll see...
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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on January 26, 2017, 06:24 AM:
Do it Fred!
Works for you, I might even be tempted to dip my toe again.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 26, 2017, 07:29 AM:
Right.... Right.
For some of us, there's no cure and no hope. Always building, redesigning the "Dream". See, everybody has a dream rifle, in their head. It has to be damn near the most individualistic concept in the shooting sports. And, like fingerprints; no two are alike.
I'm recovering nicely, BTW. (just kidding) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
don't mean to be throwing cold water, but the good thing is, it has no effect anyway. I recognize the symptoms. Yup, no cure. Short of going broke, anyway.
But, let's say you get 4250 from a 60r. JLK, will that double your total kill? Or, will you kill 3 more 600 yard coyotes over last year? Justify. Like Edison testing 1000 different filaments for the now obsolete? incandescent lightbulb. Those 999 weren't failures, he just proved another item that wouldn't work. Which is just like the dream rifle concept, only different. They ALL work! More or less.
I think there is some validity in the slow(er) twist concept. From two perspectives, extended barrel life, and the other one, I forget? Oh yeah, right up to the ragged edge of accuracy potential, just enough spin; the porridge can't be too hot and it can't be too cold. It must be just right.
Tough job, but somebody's gotta do it. GO FRED, GO !
Good hunting. El Bee
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