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Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 28, 2016, 03:25 AM:
The big one is the Pioneer fire just to the NE of Idaho City. It's a monster and growing bigger each day. Anyone coming in and thinking of using Hwy 21 it's closed just above Idaho City to Lowman.
Everyone is having to use Hwy 17 through Garden Valley to get into Lowman and Stanley if coming from the west.
Roughly 30 more days of fire season, pray for rain as in monsoon moisture and cooler temps.
These 100 degree temps and low RH's are killers.
Back to work today. Love sitting at 6,000 feet in 100 degree heat. It mean little to no wind and bugs out the ass. Mainly flying ants doing their peaking thing. Biting horse flies and anything else. I hate August it's always 6 months long. Yeah I know I'm bitching this morning heat does strange things to me anymore.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 28, 2016, 07:48 AM:
I'm looking forward to winter already. Snow & fog, bring it on !!
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 28, 2016, 08:10 AM:
I'm afraid I'm wishing my life away but I'm ready for some cooler temps, too. You can keep the fog.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 30, 2016, 07:32 AM:
Pioneer now 16K plus acres. Jumped hwy 21 and into the Edna creek drainage moving towards the N fork of the Boise River.
It's such a waste of habitat.
Keep hoping for west winds.
Seeing Boise is totally smoked in this morning with smoke drifting down all the drainages slowly moving westward. Come on west winds!!
Plus have Altocumulus clouds now in the valley (fore runners of storms to come). This could be the start of the fire season big time. It's so dry out you sneeze or fart wrong and you will start a fire. lol Central part of the state goes into fire restrictions Monday.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 31, 2016, 07:56 PM:
Pioneer 18k and still blowing. 9% R.H. today.
New fire at Unity OR. Smoke is clear to Cascade/McCall area tonight.
Fire season is here.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 01, 2016, 07:36 AM:
Pioneer is 27k and still roaring.
I've got 22% RH at 6,000 foot elevation this morning. Which means the valleys will be single digits.
Have a 500 plus acre fire in Unity OR and has filled the treasure valley with smoke. Oh goody.
My other half he had lightning in his part of the world the other day and got a 500 acre fire out by the 45 Ranch. They caught it. But it was almost out by the time the crews arrived all grass no brush.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 01, 2016, 08:05 AM:
Yeah, I must be getting the smoke from Oregon. I guess there's another one east of Pendleton, they had the freeway closed.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 03, 2016, 02:23 PM:
It's smoke from OR.
I see OR and WA is on fire expect more smoke with these west winds.
Pioneer fire is 48k and approaching Lowman.
Sure hope not need to travel to Challis next days off.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 03, 2016, 06:04 PM:
It's weird, leaving work last night, a hot west wind, a bit later a strong north wind blew in & cooled things off. Very pleasant @ dusk. Playing Pokémon-Goat.
Clear as a bell over here, for now anyway ?
[ August 03, 2016, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 03, 2016, 07:05 PM:
Enjoy it. The anniversary for the Soda Fire is the 10 of this month.
Enjoyed the cool temps all day. Going to miss it.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 05, 2016, 12:23 PM:
Yep, sure enough gettin' pretty smoky from the Unity-Or fire.
I wonder how many acres this will be Monday ? It was 500 acres this Monday or 7k now.
http://www.bluemountaineagle.com/Local_News/20160805/rail-fire-5-percent-contained-friday-morning
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 06, 2016, 05:15 AM:
Got a text late last night from a friend on a lookout just above the Rail fire. She finally evacuated last night. Then found she could have stayed talking with some guys on the line. She was spitting nails over it.
Nothing worse than making a lookout leave the mtn. top. I've done it twice and didn't like it either time. Took another friend off another mountain top last night due to the Pioneer. It all sucks.
Hope none of you were coming to Idaho to bow hunt elk in the Lowman/Bear Valley area. Pioneer jumped Hwy 17 and was headed up the Deadwood River area last night. They won't catch this thing until Sept. Unless some weird monsoon moves through the area.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 08, 2016, 08:52 AM:
I find the rail fire interesting. A local was in last week & mentioned something about a timber sale coming up ? And poof now we have a fire.
Read the note: below the map in the link.
http://bluemountainfireinfo.blogspot.com/
[ August 08, 2016, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 09, 2016, 05:50 AM:
I wouldn't put any truth into anyone walking in and saying something like unless they are the ones that did it.
But the Rail fire was man-caused.
It took them 2 weeks to finally say the Pioneer was lightning caused. If it's by a road it could be man-caused usually. Unless there is a lightning storm directly in the area. If it's in a roadless area and there had been lightning in the area you can almost say it's lightning caused. Not all the time but close to it. I've seen lightning hold overs show up 2 weeks later.
The Cherry fire I seen the strike go down. Waited all day nothing and thought I made it. Got down to the main road a guy stopped me and told me. So I ran up the county road to confirm it. Called dispatch and drove 7 miles back up one of the worst wash boarded road on the earth. Only lucky thing was it was grass and lite brush and at the end of the day(burn period). So we caught it.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 15, 2016, 02:49 PM:
Pioneer is blowing again today.
Looks closer though.
The only good thing is 95% of our wind directions is usually out of the SW,W,NW. If we were to get a good East wind. The world would really be in trouble.
They could have been doing a burn out, don't know but it was ugly looking for a while.
If I hadn't known what it was and was down in the valley and looked up and seen it I'd a said the end of world was coming.
Looking for SNOW, the heck with rain. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 16, 2016, 05:19 PM:
Yeah, the smoke definitely makes things feel hotter. Sunday sucked, yesterday not to bad.
Right now is awful, just fed the critters. Will wait until about dusk to free the goats for awhile.
100 degrees and smoky is a big, no go...
No fucking wonder. I hate summer !! But, the stupid fuckin' TV tells everyone to go to the city pool !! Some of us have jobs. Imagine that ?
Ain't no pools around here, Amigos !!
Sorry for the rant ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 16, 2016, 07:45 PM:
Rant all you want.
Just don't get me started.
Try 6k feet right in the middle of that crud.
Flying ants and other wonderful bugs.
No wind and to top it all off 7 miles of solid wash boarded road by stupid city people driving car's on dirt roads with no four wheel drive and they dig and scratch up the road and tear it all to hell. I'm using low range low and second gear to get up and down the main steep canyon because I can't get over 7 mph. NO ONE and I MEAN no one will use their four wheel drive and ease up.
And there isn't any water up there either. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 17, 2016, 10:19 AM:
200 feet visability in garden valley this morning and right now.
Had a cell move through with 32mph wind gust can see the mtn tops to the east now. But still very hot with the smoke inversion holding all the heat in. COME ON SNOW!! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 17, 2016, 08:02 PM:
Yes, come on snow !! I'm guessing these fires wont be out for awhile ? Hopefully September sometime ?
I'll tell y'all end of summer sucks, I'm @ my crankiest !! I heard a commercial on the radio today, mentioned how sad it is, summer is almost over.
Those folk must be on crack..
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 22, 2016, 06:41 AM:
Oh goody. This will finish off the Owyhee front ? 3500 to 30,000 acres overnight.
This has been one of my favorite area for years. Hunting, ATV rides & such.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/brush-fire-threatening-state-park-in-eastern-oregon /304318908
(edit) 11:00 am 50,000 acres.
[ August 22, 2016, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 23, 2016, 06:23 PM:
They actually caught the dang thing that night.
It's been burned so much I'm surprised anything grew back.
I'd worry about the Rail fire it keeps moving eastward.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on August 30, 2016, 02:34 PM:
What they caught the last team that pulled they lost it. It grew yesterday 30k acres. Now running towards the NE. It's on Miller Mtn. and just above Kirkham hotsprings by 9 miles.
These aholes can't even put out of wet dream.
Piss? Just mildly. Thinking of all the critters that died from wee thing, wing things, deer, elk, moose and bear. The loss of habitat that will not come back in our life time.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 30, 2016, 03:17 PM:
Must be the Pioneer fire that blew up again ?
I have a lot of thoughts but have been hesitant to say, because. I didn't know your involvement with fire fighting efforts ?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 30, 2016, 06:10 PM:
"The loss of habitat that will not come back in our lifetime."
Actually, it may not be as bad as it looks.
In 2011 the Bear Wallow fire in Az. burnt >500,000 acres in a somewhat mosaic pattern. In 5 years the habitat has come back strong.
Sadly, the area is infested with wolves and the deer population is tanking.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 30, 2016, 06:18 PM:
Yes, but I understand where earthwalker is coming from. Remember everybody crying about the big Yellowstone fires 10-15 years ago? I guess that old growth that burned was a good thing. But, The Forest Service can't seem to get their policy straight. Put it out or let it burn?
Good hunting. El Bee
[ August 30, 2016, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 30, 2016, 09:30 PM:
Theres a movement here in Cali to go ahead and declare the entire Sierra National Forest a monument. Clinton did some of it in the 90's. Eliminated logging ,offroading etc.
So no logging....great. Thats the problem here. Shit ton of trees growing so thick and dense, coupled with a drought and the bark beetle it is a disaster waiting to happen each year. And it does. Lots of fires right now. I got ran out of archery opener last week as part of a mandatory evacuation for the Cedar Fire here. Small potatoes...some people lost there homes and family cabins.
Forest has to be thinned out. 80 to 100 trees per acre is close to normal. We have 500 to 800 per acre. Trees growing so close to each other in competition that it weakens the trees and cant repel the bark beetle (tree sap normally pushes beetle out of tree before it can do damage). Also, with that many trees it soaks up that much more water. The excess trees soak up enough water each year to fill one of our biggest reservoirs 3 times over each year,which would relieve a whole lot of drought stricken areas here.
So thanks enviros...preservation over conservation really works well.
Mark
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 31, 2016, 03:45 AM:
Quit making so much sense, Mark!
You're gonna make all the libtards heads hurt with all that factual logic...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 31, 2016, 06:18 AM:
Yeah, but the loggers are just as hard headed. They want to clear cut, instead of thinning the herd. I remember deer hunting one year in southern Utah and wondered about all the uprooted stumps in the area. A long time ago, they were rigging cables any some type of windlass and just cranking all those trees into nice manageable piles. A hundred years later, those stumps still sit there, ugly as hell but somebody made a tidy profit.
You know, the Germans are pretty anal about their forests. They get in there under the direction of the Burgermeister and groom the forests like a park. Germans get dressed up, they like gray suits, and wander around on the paths, then stop at some Guesthouse in the woods and have a couple beers and call it good.
We used to hang our cables on their trees and they would actually count all the spikes from climbing and charge the U.S. Army a "Mark" for each gouged hole, which (I guess) adds up? But, they have some nicely managed forests that can't really be called wilderness. If a tree falls over, they haul it out of there.
Where was I? Oh yeah, why don't they have big forest fires in Europe? Maybe because they practically get in there and rake the fuel out? Shit, I don't know, but they are damned proud of their forests?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 31, 2016, 09:26 AM:
How convenient ?
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/east-oregon-wild-horse-roundup-canceled-due-to-wildfire/311854370
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