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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 19, 2015, 12:16 PM:
Anybody here wear their garments ?
I have a small assortment of stuff. Bought in the 90's. Been getting a few catalogs in the mail lately. Holy shit !! things have gone up.
I have two Filson wool vests. Been thinking this would look cool with flannels. $120 though ? Maybe.
http://www.filson.com/products/oil-tin-c loth-vest-alaska-fit.10265.html?fromCat=true&fvalsProduct=mens/vests-liners&fmetaProduct=1011/
[ July 19, 2015, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 19, 2015, 12:20 PM:
Bought quite a bunch of clothing and a wool blanket before the original Filson sold out to this guppy company and a lot of their clothing now comes from China.
You can't afford them for work now a days. Going back to Carhart clothing.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 19, 2015, 12:26 PM:
Filson ??? ...............China ???
Say it isn't so !!!! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
The next thing that we know, Pendleton cloths will be made in China. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 19, 2015, 02:22 PM:
Just dawned on me! Apparently Filson has wrote me off? No catalogs since last year. Just as well, I can't afford their shit. I mean, it's still good looking stuff, and nicely retro, but come on. Seems like I saw their heavy coats with a wool shawl collar for about $600? Then they had one in a wood presentation box for a million dollars or so.
I might change your custom title, Dave? How about, "This is our very own Awesome Dave - wears Filson to work!" ....or something?
(just kidding)
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 19, 2015, 03:13 PM:
Really interesting. Since reading this thread and writing and posting the word "Filson" I have visited several different sites and amazingly, suddenly I'm seeing FILSON ads where before there might have been "Cabelas" or Sears ads. I must be really dialed in, surveillance wise? My "file" must be under
"high value subversive"?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on July 20, 2015, 06:59 AM:
Google watches where you've been and hits you with more ads for the same shit when you surf to other sites.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on July 20, 2015, 11:33 AM:
I have a Filson cruiser jacket and a pair of their whipcord wool pants. I've probably had both pieces for 25 plus years. The pants are getting pretty tore up and have pretty much found their way to my son's closet and I haven't wore them in years. The stuff I've had has lasted very well and is really quiet.
I guess I wasn't too surprised to see the price good wool is now... All that said, I don't know if I'd spring for new wool, if mine were to be gone tomorrow? Dry-clean only is a pain and it does shrink some from what I can tell.
In dry, cold, weather wool is great. In rainy, wet weather, I have better luck staying dry in the synthetics lined with some space-age moisture barrier.
All that said, I've only ever had one vest in my adult life and it was a Carhartt. I never wore it more than a time or two. A coat without sleeves?? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
I guess I never saw the purpose. But hey Dave, if you look good in one and you like it, you only have to please yourself. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 20, 2015, 12:06 PM:
On hot weather hikes, I like to wear 100% wool T shirts. Wool has a lot of interesting, unique properties. But one that I really appreciate, when I know I'm going to be sweating in the same shirt for a few days without changing it, is that it doesn't ever really get stinky.
They are pretty expensive, and get holes in them pretty quick as hard as I use them, but after a couple trips wearing them I'd never want to go back to cotton or nylon for long distance walks.
But I machine wash them at home. Wouldn't own them if I had to dry clean.
And of course, wool socks, in all weather.
I'm a "vest guy", too. Have a couple ultra light weight down vests, one I keep clean for wearing every day around town and another that I leave filthy for everything else. I sleep in that one, sometimes, when it gets really cold at night in the tent. Just a nice insulation layer for someone that freezes easily like me. If it's too cold for just a vest, I usually keep it on underneath my coat for the extra warmth. Have another, much heavier and warmer synthetic vest, Sitka, that I wear hunting when it's really cold too.
All of which has nothing to do with Filson, which I've never owned. But next time I spend money on cold weather hunting gear, I think I might go wool.
- DAA
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on July 20, 2015, 03:43 PM:
I absolutely love merino wool for base layers. I got my first set a few years back and since that point all my synthetic long underwear has hit the road. Works well in a wide range of temps also.
I like the dry feel of the merino wool even when sweating and the stink level is way below the synthetic stuff. The synthetic stuff takes on a funky smell after awhile even if it is clean.
My wife who has a nose akin to a coyote, would always wrinkle up her nose when I would be wearing a synthetic long handle shirt and ask "When was the last time that shirt was washed?"
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on July 21, 2015, 05:35 AM:
Yeah man, me too!
When we're in elk country for 8-9days without a shower, merino wool baselayers are a Godsend!!!
Far as washing my merino stuff, I just fill up my bathroom sink, add a dash off Woolite, and hand wash. Hang to dry, then keep them stored in a covered plastic bin.
Also have a 'hand me down' Woolrich red plaid coat that is really nice! That style of wool hunting coat has been extremely popular with big woods NE deer hunters a loooooong time...
[ July 21, 2015, 05:38 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 21, 2015, 05:59 AM:
Yup, me too - Merino long handles rule. Costco usually gets some in each fall for a killer good price, too.
The T-shirts I mentioned that I wear backpacking are Merino too, Icebreaker brand.
I wash mine in the machine, gentle cycle, with the Atsko soap you can get at Walmart. Hang to dry.
- DAA
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on July 21, 2015, 06:08 AM:
Dave and I had a discussion about it when he was out here. I wear a ton of wool of various brands. I even have some Filson stuff. I too wear wool socks year round. Winter time is wool for me. The other great insulator is also natural. Down. Also unbeatable as far as I'm concerned. Carhart and the like isn't for me. Fine for a farmer or worker not too far from the truck and not getting wet, but I have never been as cold as you are if you get Carhart stuff wet and its really cold out. The stuff is worthless.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2015, 06:39 AM:
I don't own very much wool. Must be a personal failure, but y'all got me thinking. I will be on the lookout for Costco sales.
And, I have a pair of Carhart insulated bibs that I bought specifically for northern Canada. I'm very happy with them in other applications even if they might be a bit overkill.Then I have some surplus Canadian Army white nylon camo that slip over everything.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: Our hero, all warm and comfy, with Sorrel felt packs, etc.
[ July 21, 2015, 06:41 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 21, 2015, 07:20 AM:
Wool pants are on my list.
A big "yup" on the down, too. I've moved to down stuff for my really cold weather upper body outer layers. Got a Sitka down hoody last year and that thing is just ridiculously warm for how amazingly lightweight it is. Breathes really well too. Layer it up with the merino long handles and a vest underneath it and I can sit still and toasty on a -5* stand, then undo a zipper or two and not sweat/wet out carrying a coyote back to the truck afterward. Just take the vest off a couple hours later when it has warmed up into the 20's. Love that coat.
- DAA
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on July 21, 2015, 07:42 AM:
Dave, I've got a pair of BeagleWear wool pants that I prolly ain't ever gonna fit into, again. They're true size 34 waist, and a bit snug at that. I was a 32/33 at the time, and the fit was just right.
From what I remember when we hung out, bet they'd fit ya perfect! I'll pack 'em up and send them out to ya, if you'd put 'em to good use this winter?
And +1 for Sitka! Have a Kelvin Lite puffy (no hood), and it's like a friggin' OVEN!!!
[ July 21, 2015, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 21, 2015, 08:25 AM:
Dang, Fred, too kind!
I'll take ya up on it!
31/33ish currently, but always put on an inch or two come winter, so it sounds like they should indeed fit well!
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2015, 08:31 AM:
You guys "hung out"?
WHY WASN'T I TOLD?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2015, 01:21 PM:
As it happens, I drove up to YV without shoes, just my driving slippers. So, I have to dress up a little bit to take girl friend to Ruth Chris in Palm Springs for her birthday.
So, while I was actually buying pipe and a misting system for the patio, I stopped in and looked at shoes. I bought a half way decent pair but the BIG NEWS is, I also walked out of there with my first Marino wool. Socks, and who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
Mostly true.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 22, 2015, 06:30 AM:
Dave, just a coincidence I thought worth mentioning. Was reading one of my magazines this morning (Overland Journal), there's a gear section, and your Filson vest had a whole page written about how wonderful these guys think it is. Looks like a sharp, quality piece of gear!
- DAA
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on July 22, 2015, 12:16 PM:
Wool is definitely the go to for me too. Merino wool long underwear when its cold. Wool socks for sure. Wool Coats in the winter. Light weight merino wool jackets for early season.But to be honest the only Filson wool I own is a pair of light weight wool gloves. Surprisingly warm being so light weight. But for 30 bucks a pair they should be.lol Oh and for a hat you gotta have the Stormy Kromer. The only wool I don't wear is when its really wet/snowy I like the goretex Sitka pants.
Good Hunting Chad
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 22, 2015, 04:16 PM:
Yeah, I'm a vest guy also. Has to be pretty dang cold for a coat. Mostly hate the lack of mobility.
Wool socks also year round in different weights. Bought some med weight Smart Wool socks last winter, they're great !!
Yeah, hell with it. Might as well get the vest.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 22, 2015, 08:06 PM:
The guy across the street from me, ( the one that voted for Dickweed) a while back, months, not years, was roaming around and I asked him if that was a Filson vest he was wearing? It was. But, he must have planned on growing into it? It was about three sizes too large for him. Hell, I could have got in there with him, except, you know? Red plaid. Oh well, he will never crawl out of the hole, for voting the way he did. In his case it was a protest vote, the Media had convinced him that Bush had to go but how would voting for Dickweed help? The logic escapes me?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on July 22, 2015, 08:17 PM:
For some reason that was really funny Leonard. I got a good chuckle out of it anyway!
Thanks.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on July 23, 2015, 03:28 AM:
Leonard, was fortunate enough to spend a day poppin' p-dogs in Wyo with Dave. Good company, good cigars & cool rifles...what more can a fella ask for?
Sorry you weren't CC'ed, but that was prior to me joining HM. Speaking of which, hope this year's Ronde is scheduled when I can make a trip out!?!?!?
Dave, pants shipped yesterday AM...
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on July 23, 2015, 06:31 AM:
The winters here in Kansas have been pretty mild the last couple of years, so I have been able to get by with some of my mid-weight stuff. I guess I am a pretty cheap SOB, but I have found that the old WW 2, army surplus wool pants fit the bill when the temps hover around 0. I picked up 4 pair for $15.00 each a couple of years ago. The inseams are short, but I tuck them in my boots and wear gaiters, so they are fine.
I wear Under Armor Cold Gear and wool pants, and couple it with a Cabela’s Wind Shear Wool pull over, and I am pretty toasty to around 0. If it colder than -5, I keep my butt at home!
I am in the market for a good Gore Tex coat…other than Sitka, any suggestions?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 25, 2015, 06:46 AM:
Ok Fred, you're forgiven.
Booger, you know, I have not been looking around but I remember from when I was in the Army, that I loved our wool uniform pants and shirts. I was told that they were standard uniform of the day in Korea, don't know for a fact, but we just wore them in the field, in winter, and covered with what we called "field pants" and "field jacket" or the excellent fishtail parka.
I don't know if that stuff is available surplus, from what I remember what was available, the last time I checked was small sizes. But, if a guy can find something that fits, I wouldn't hesitate to acquire US Army wool class A uniform. More than likely, used but serviceable?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Z (Member # 303) on July 25, 2015, 09:22 AM:
Used to like the Filson "tin pants" for pheasant hunting in the old days. Won't wear a Filson wool vest because that is standard issue for many of the Montana game wardens who try to be too cool. I am used to hunting a lot colder weather than most of you guys. The coyote hunting really gets good when it is -15 to -25 with snow on the ground. They have to keep moving all day to keep up their caloric intake. Don't wear insulated boots until it gets to about 0 degrees. Once it gets below freezing I will wear my old Holofil 808 underwear that I have had since high school. It has an elastic waist band so it fits my new physique. I can sit out for 30 minutes at -25 with it as long as I have a foam pad between my butt and the snow. Been trying to find some but can't find it anymore. The crotch is ripped out form years of crossing fences. I can't stand the restriction of tight fitting long johns. I have thought about a pair of Merino long johns but I would have to buy them loose fitting. But since I moved to Utah it doesn't really get that cold here.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 27, 2015, 07:06 AM:
Fred, I got home last night from a few days of wandering and the pants were there waiting. They look good - you're too kind!
Smokes incoming ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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- DAA
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on July 27, 2015, 08:48 AM:
My pleasure, Dave!
Smokes weren't necessary, but I'll enjoy the heck outta them...THANKS!!!
Posted by Chris S (Member # 3888) on July 30, 2015, 05:11 PM:
I have a couple Filson Tin Caps, one lined and another unlined and a regular wool baseball hat. All 3 made in the USA. I wear them all the time.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on July 31, 2015, 03:20 AM:
Received, with gratitude!
Headed to the farm in a couple hours. Hope to light one up & enjoy while watching the Sun set over the field, this evening...
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