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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 20, 2015, 08:13 AM:

Just a few pics from a camping trip with my son and some friends over the weekend.

- DAA

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 20, 2015, 08:16 AM:

More...

- DAA

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 20, 2015, 08:19 AM:

More...

- DAA

Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on May 20, 2015, 10:16 AM:

Wow...
Great pics Dave.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 20, 2015, 01:36 PM:

Man! You did it again!

Thanks for sharing, Dave.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 20, 2015, 03:07 PM:

Requesting rock art calendar for 2016.

[Cool]

Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on May 20, 2015, 04:52 PM:

Excellent pictures! Thanks for sharing.

Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on May 20, 2015, 08:43 PM:

Damn, I love to get to camp there. Grizz

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 21, 2015, 02:44 AM:

Awesome!

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 21, 2015, 03:38 AM:

Ok...........Now can we chat a bit about that fire-ring in the background in the whiskey / cigar photo ??
I'm assuming that it's propane ??
(Edit) Homemade or store bought ??
Pros....Cons ????
A xx tank of gas will last about how long ??
Since you don't appear to be in a brushfire danger zone, do you use it because firewood is scarce or it's just more convenient ??

Thanx !!

More edit for speling.
(Hey, I'm still on my first cup of coffee this morning.)

[ May 21, 2015, 03:42 AM: Message edited by: Kokopelli ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 04:23 AM:

Koko, that's not mine, it belongs to my friend Steve. Store bought and expensive - Campfire in a can. It does work significantly better than the several homemade and less expensive store bought versions I have been around though.

How long it lasts depends on how high you turn it up, but we used it three nights on this trip and it was still going.

Wood burning is not allowed in that particular national park, ever, anywhere. So something like that is the only way possible to have a campfire.

Other than situations like that, where it's the only way, I'd have no use for one, myself. But the other possible advantages include no smoke, no need to gather wood, instant on/off, no ashes (some places expect you to haul your ashes out with you).

- DAA

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 04:26 AM:

Here it is:

Campfire in a can.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2015, 07:41 AM:

I had no idea there was a demand for such a thing? When I noticed it in one of the above photos, I briefly thought to myself, that's an odd device to pack into the back country? A fake campfire! But, that's what we are up against if we really want to venture into pristine wilderness, and packing out your poop, goes without saying.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: I was just thinking...at some point, people will be saying things like: "You mean people used to actually burn real wood in a campfire?"

[ May 21, 2015, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 07:48 AM:

Yeah, packing out your turds is getting to be required in more places every year.

Or, some places, like Grand Gulch, you don't have to pack out your turds, but they do expect you to pack out your used toilet paper.

I've found a properly sized piece of sandstone works just as well. And there are no regulations about leaving your shit scraper rock lay where you drop it. Really.

- DAA

Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on May 21, 2015, 07:54 AM:

Nice pictures Dave. I see someone carries a battery powered impact. Never owned one but the mechanics that do like them. No air hoses to trip over, and can do most things we need an impact for.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 09:10 AM:

Yup the impact is mine and I do like it a lot. Especially when changing a flat on the trail!

- DAA

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 21, 2015, 10:22 AM:

Much Thanx !!!
I rarely have a campfire anymore for a number of reasons, among them being camped in the middle of my hunting area and just too much hassle.
Then there's the whole liability thing in the event a spark would get away.........
I'll give this thing some thought.

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on May 21, 2015, 11:11 AM:

As always, great pics!

Man, that one pic with the jeep right on the edge of the canyon wall, my wife would divorce me in a second if I drove that close to the edge and she was in the vehicle.

She has a serious fear of heights and gets nervous when we drive some of the canyon roads in this part of the world where the first bounce would be about 150 feet down.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2015, 12:16 PM:

Yes, or what are the odds, just as you drive along that the ridge has been festering for 3,000 years and needed only another couple tons of weight and vibration.... to break off a piece. Nah, really doubtful, huh? But, you see on the news, regularly, somebody falls down some type of ridge, berm, or gravel chute.

Good hunting. El Bee

PS hell, I don't like to stand too close to the windows in a high rise hotel. Gives me the creeps!

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on May 21, 2015, 12:34 PM:

quote:
Man, that one pic with the jeep right on the edge of the canyon wall, my wife would divorce me in a second if I drove that close to the edge and she was in the vehicle.

I would be locked up tighter'n a bird dog on point if you made me get out of the driver's side door on that jeep with that view...damn near gave me the vapors just looking at the picture!

DAA...how is the Macallan 18? I have an unopened bottle of Macallan 10 sitting in my freezer waiting for a good excuse to break the label...

[ May 21, 2015, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: booger ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 01:40 PM:

The 18 is outrageously good! The 10... Well, not so much?

- DAA

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 01:42 PM:

BTW... That 18 is also way rich for my blood, too. It was a gift, from back in November, finally had a good time and place to enjoy it!

Way too expensive for me though. Not something I'd ever buy for myself.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 21, 2015, 02:39 PM:

Speaking of that stuff, connoisseur spirits, etc. Has anybody noticed the fancy-pants Tequila down at Costco? Many years ago we could go down to Nogales and I (believe) we could bring seven "containers" of liquor, be it twelve ounce bottles of beer or one gallon jugs of vodka or tequila. How much costem? Don't remember, but I'm pretty sure it was under five bucks a gallon? I know we could get a 12 ounce water glass of tequila at the La Paloma in Zaragoza for a dollar.

Now, you can pay very close to $100 for what looks closer to a 750ml bottle of reposto or whatever they call it? Don't ask me the brand, there seems to be a different one every time I pass by that isle. So, what I am saying is; based on my experience with cheap tequila south of the border, I am just flabbergasted at what our well off neighbors are willing to pay for a category that I always considered a cheap drunk vehicle.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: sooner or later, somebody will ask about that cigar balanced on the plastic cup?

[ May 21, 2015, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 21, 2015, 03:12 PM:

Ahhh... The cigar. That was chosen, very specifically, not to "get in the way" of tasting that very high dollar scotch. And I didn't even light it until I had drank about as much as I was gonna for the evening.

It's a Montecristo White. Mild, creamy, good quality but not overly expensive cigar. Definitely more mild than my usual, but turned out to be a good choice to go with the whiskey.

- DAA

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on May 22, 2015, 05:40 AM:

Dave,
I know what you mean about the price…my bottle of Macallan 10 was a gift from a kid from Scotland that works for our bank.

I think the 10 year old stuff is around $65.00 a bottle, and it looks like the average of the 18 is around $200.00.

When we were in London, we went to Harrod’s department store and I found their ‘Wine and Spirits Room’…The Macallan 30 ‘Oak Cask’, or something like that, was ONLY, (written with sarcasm), around $3,500.00!

If you want to see something that is over the top, go to the wine and spirits section of www.harrods.com, and look at the 12 bottle collection of ‘The Dalmore’ single malt whiskey…it is only $987,500 British Pounds or about $1,500,000.00, BUT it comes with its own hand made wood storage case! [Eek!]

We didn't see it while we were there, as it is stored under lock and key!

[ May 22, 2015, 05:43 AM: Message edited by: booger ]

Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on May 22, 2015, 06:16 AM:

While shopping at bevmo last Christmas, I started talking to a sales clerk about a high dollar Patron tequila that was priced right at $500/bottle. He said a guy came in and purchased 20 bottles and paid cash. Sounds like a drug dealer to me. I doubt the employees knew that cash sales have to be reported if over 10k to the IRS.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2015, 07:23 AM:

The price of scots whisky, to someone that cannot appreciate these finer things in life is; (searching for a word) ridiculous. All scotch, (to me) tastes like it has a little dish detergent in it like maybe they didn't rinse the bottle very well before filling? No offense!

The whole category, expensive booze, seems to this observer, whom are we trying to impress? The extent of my sophistication when ordering a Margarita to accompany my combo Mexican dinner is deciding whether to get it blended or with ice cubes and salt on the rim.

Like that blind taste test with Johnny Walker Red, Black or Blue label. You really have to wonder how many can pass, if a wrong answer costs you a finger....or, was it Patron Silver, etc.? I forget?

You know, I did have a glass of Merlot with my scaloppini Wednesday night, the first in several weeks. I don't object to booze, I'm just, take it or leave it. One glass is my limit or I get loopy. (meds) And, that's another thing, I can't tell wine that's $8 a glass from $12?

Okay, end of rambling.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2015, 07:27 AM:

I am thinking that 'ol Dave could make a comfortable living organizing these field trips. I'm serious!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 22, 2015, 08:19 AM:

Might be able to. But, I'd probably end up hating it.

Wet nursing greenhorns is not my strong suit.

The expensive booze... A few years back, a bunch of us went in on one of those $3,500 bottles of scotch for my boss. I got a drink off it. It was nice. But not nearly THAT nice!

Along similar lines, the same boss, bought a $750 bottle of scotch for one of my co-workers for his 60th birthday. I sat in that co-workers living room (in Oklahoma, BTW...) and drank half that bottle with him, while smoking nice cigars (in the living room! His long suffering, wonderful wife, made an exception for us because it was way too hot to enjoy such finery in the shop...).

It too, was very nice, but again, no way was it THAT nice! Sitting in the Lazy Boy, in the living room, sipping high dollar whiskey and smoking a nice cigar with a good friend on his 60th sure was an awful nice way to pass an evening though! Memorable evening, for sure.

Heck, same-same for the 18 that got this started. It's really good whiskey. Really good! Each sip, has a beginning, a middle and an end. If that makes sense. At no point does it just turn to fire on the tongue or palette, it has distinct flavors that change as it first hits the tip of your tongue, then the back, then the throat. It really is, very, very good and I don't think you need to be any kind of a connoisseur to tell the difference between it and a garden variety whiskey.

But, again, nice as it is... Worth $200 a bottle? No way! Not to me. Not unless I could afford to light my cigars with $100 bills...

- DAA

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 22, 2015, 08:29 AM:

Scotch and cigars....paired in heaven. My favorite scotch is Lagavulin 16. Not cheap but not too expensive, either.

I bought a few cigars at Harrods a few years ago. Still smoking them.

My dad once told me that scotch is an acquired taste. I think he was right about that. Some people say scotch tastes like it has iodine in it. Whatever it is I like it.

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on May 22, 2015, 08:55 AM:

LB,
What I know about scotch you can write on the head of a pin...with that said, the scotch you are referring to, I think, is the blended variety.

That stuff tastes like crap!

However, the single malt scotch whiskey is a TOTALLY different animal. The stuff I have tried rivals very fine bourbon.

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on May 22, 2015, 09:06 AM:

Back in the day I worked at some high end joints that had extensive inventories of all matter of booze. From an exclusively French wine list, to 120 different bottled Belgian beers, 75 Micro brew taps, 30 different vodkas, bourbons & tequilas, 10 gins, 25 single malts. Man o' man we had alotta ways to catch a buzz & drain a wallet!!!

Anyhoo, it was OUR JOB to learn & be able describe the subtle differences between product. And with a bit of palette training, those differences could be rather easily recognized. All it took was exposure. Aside from our formalized training, we all spent many an after-shift informally learning about product [Wink]

Good times!!!

I do believe that skill is perishable & doubt I'd be as sharp now as I was back then. But back in the day, I could peg Johnny Red, Black, Blue & Gold in a heads up blind tasting.
Could tell a French Bordeaux (mostly Cab Sav) from a Loire Valley (Cab Franc) from a Burgundy (Pinot Noir).
Could tell Chopin (potato vodka) from Vox (5x distilled grain), from Stoli & Absolut.
Could tell a Kentucky straight bourbon from a sour mash or Tennessee whisky. ALL FUN SHIT!!! Ah, the memories...

Again, I think that an 'in tune' palate is a perishable skill. But I bet we all can still remember the perfume of our first girlfriend? Our olfactory senses have a remarkable memory tied to them. And our sense of smell is a critical part of our palate. So, the same premise applies. Once you are introduced to, and learn a certain smell/taste, the memories come flooding back with ease...

That said, I'm perfectly happy buying 'blue collar' priced booze & there's TONs of great hooch out there to enjoy!

Damn straight that many consumers pay exorbitant prices for booze for the 'status' allowed when indulging in it.
Damn straight, there are TONS of modestly priced selections out there that can hang with the high dollar hooch. But, I'd dang sure rather spend an evening on a tailgate drinkin' 12pks with my buds, over quaffin' a cork finished Trappist Ale in lesser company. It's all about the company, not the pricetag!!!

OH YEAH... Fukkin' EXCELLENT PICS, as always Dave!!! Thank you!!!

And Moe, I agree! Lagavulin 16 was my preferred Single Malt...

[ May 22, 2015, 09:17 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2015, 09:57 AM:

What exactly do you mean, when you say: "the perfume of our first girlfriend?" Okay, never mind.

When I was a kid, my buddy had access to a place where the owner stocked Dewar's by the case. Sometimes, it was the only booze we could get; as I recall, it was tolerable. Then, there was a friend that swore by Cutty Sark and I actually drank that shit for a short time as a preferred drink, early twenties. I will never understand why?

Actually, I never had a drinking problem but I agree with koko, a good root beer is very refreshing.

On the other hand, there are many dang good beers and IPA's out there. My dad made home brew, very high alcohol content, two bottles was all you needed.

There, that's all I know. LB

Posted by Fur_n_Dirt (Member # 4467) on May 22, 2015, 10:04 AM:

My favorite pic is the jeep next to edge of the cliff.. shit!

Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on May 22, 2015, 12:46 PM:

Very Nice Dave, Thx for sharing those pic's.

A few years back when I was in Scotland, I got to make a tour of one of the distilleries. Those Scot's are very proud of their product.
The tour guide was not at all impressed after the tasting when I said damn reminds me of Wild Turkey...Hell what do I know I drink wine from a box....take it out of the box and the bladder conforms nicely to an ice chest lol.
Yall have a great Weekend and raise a glass to those that make it possible.

Stay after them
Kelly

[ May 22, 2015, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2015, 01:26 PM:

Dang, Kelly. With a remark like that, I'm surprised they didn't kick you out! Yes, they are inordinately proud of their whisky.

I'm with you, Wild Turkey is just fine, although I also like Southern Comfort, if I was in the mood for sipping whisky.

One thing for sure, lots of people have different tastes when it comes to hard liquor. My girlfriend said she used to drink scotch years ago, but I forgive her; as long as she feeds me! She's a very good cook, with enthusiasm.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on May 22, 2015, 01:31 PM:

Nothing wrong with Chivas on ice. But I have been seen drinking Crown Royal, Knob creek, even Jack Daniels a time or two.

I never have been able to enjoy a cigar though, dunno why.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 22, 2015, 03:21 PM:

So...............Nobody here drinks Mogan David & smokes Marsh Wheeling cigars ????
Them were the days !!
[Big Grin]

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 22, 2015, 06:00 PM:

Ripple and Swisher Sweets here.

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on May 22, 2015, 06:01 PM:

double posted,dunt no how dat happend

[ May 22, 2015, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 22, 2015, 08:39 PM:

And Rum Crooks !!!!
To think that I gave up those and Middleton Cherry Blends to smoke Partagas cigars.
[Confused]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 23, 2015, 04:54 AM:

Never could stomach the Mad Dog. Did occasionally have a Swisher.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2015, 05:16 AM:

There was a time I chewed a lot of HavaTampa cigars. Amazing the tobacco flavor you can get out of the wood tip hours after it goes out.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on May 23, 2015, 07:00 AM:

Years ago you could enter the hills of Tennessee and leave a 20 dollar bill on a predetermided stump. Return 30 minutes later and retrieve a fruit jar filled with a clear liquid. Well almost clear. Upon swirling it around, you could see several black specks floating around and some parts of the liquid appeared to be slightly thicker than others.

This stuff started to burn the moment it hit your tongue and left a trail until it reached the bottom of your stomach. Admittedly it was an acquired taste, but this was usually achieved after the third swallow.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2015, 07:14 AM:

Yes, and I still have some in a gallon jug, on a shelf, as a souvenir. It must be high grade, no lumps?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 23, 2015, 07:39 AM:

My brother likes Pendleton whisky, when I visit we enjoy a glass or two maybe three ? LOL

Other than that. I'm more of a beer guy. Oh' Sinfire ain't too bad. In the winter a snort or two feels pretty good !!

Makes me think, maybe I should go buy a 5th of Pendleton tonight ?

(edit) I always enjoy your pics Dave. Awesome stuff !!

[ May 23, 2015, 07:40 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

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