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Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 19, 2015, 06:08 PM:
Do any of you carry a personal survival kit? Maybe I am paranoid, but I feel naked without one. I ain't talking no Altoid tin with fishing line in it either.
I carry a Camelbak Hellion everywhere I go. In it are:
100 oz water bladder
Rain gear
insulated leather gloves
a fleece UnderArmor beanie
A Boker lockblade
SOG Paratool
space blanket
A waterproof container with vaseline cottonballs
Bic lighter
Suunto compass
Waterproof matches
Potable Aqua tablets and neutralizer
mag/ferro firestarter with high carbon striker
a small LED squeeze light
Surefire G2
A small med bag with Allergy pills, Naproxen, chapstick, a couple of bandaids, Viagra (just kidding) and two packs of Emergen-C.
Toilet paper
Cell phone charger
Two spare CR123 batteries
Spare magazine for H&K VP9, 15 rounds 124 grain federal HST. Two extra "Barney" rounds.
It doesn't weigh as much as you might guess, but I carry it everywhere. I think all I am missing is cordage. Still debating on if I want to carry high test monofilament, or #36 tarred bankline. Me being me, probably both.
What do you guys have in your man purse?
[ April 19, 2015, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: cornstalker ]
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 19, 2015, 06:12 PM:
Oh yeah, I also have two Honey Stinger gels and a Clif bar in there.
Posted by KaBloomR (Member # 4252) on April 19, 2015, 06:29 PM:
I carry an Altoid can with fishing line in it.
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 19, 2015, 06:49 PM:
Can I borrow it? I don't have anything to put my cordage in. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 19, 2015, 07:18 PM:
I have a pretty good size first aid suitcase; back at the truck. It has everything including sutures and a good assortment of dressings. Just like Survivorman, I like to have my Leatherman tool if I go on a walkabout. It's a self contained survival kit.
If I was going to be gone for days, I would have the magnesium and steel with me and something for water. You can never have too much stuff.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on April 19, 2015, 08:33 PM:
I've always carried some stuff cause as a kid we camped out quite a bit with minimal equipment. Didn't really need a whole lot and still don't but some things are nice to have just in case.
Dad fell out of a tree several years ago, broke his back and ankle. He was by himself and no one knew he was gone or where he was.
That changed the way we thought about things and I now carry a first aid kit, some meds that I need, fire starter, a water filtration straw, a big space blanket, silnylon pancho, compass, head light and a G2 flashlight with a Cree bulb that burns all night long and then some.
Stay warm, dry, medicated, hydrated and things should be alright. I've always got a gun and knife so food is covered. I carry it in a Kifaru escape and evasion pack along with the rest of my gear.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 20, 2015, 05:24 AM:
When calling near the truck I don't carry all that much survival stuff. Space Blanket, lighter and some party candles that relight when you blow them out.
Still hunting cross country during deer season I pretty much carry what has already been mentioned.
I like stuff that can be used for multiple things.
Kleenix for example; Blow your nose, wipe your butt, tape it to a cut with a piece of the electrical tape you wrapped around your rifle stock, or use it for flagging a blood trail. Smear a little Chapstick on it and you've got some pretty good fire starter. Electrical tape and Chapstick are also good for several different uses.
You get the idea.
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on April 20, 2015, 07:37 PM:
I'll suggest a package of Benadryl, or something similar. Had a buddy have an allergic reaction to something around camp one evening and luckily we were able to get him loaded up while calling 911 and meet paramedics who got him stabilized. Had this same event taken place on a walk about, it would have been real ugly.
Posted by DarbinCo (Member # 4590) on April 21, 2015, 05:30 AM:
Chad,
I carry much of that same stuff in a small pack in the back of my FJ. I've also included my jet boil, Cold Steel Trailmaster Bowie and a small shovel.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 21, 2015, 07:52 AM:
Except that I'll obviously be carrying a lot more food and a sleeping bag/sleeping pad, that is more "stuff" than I'll be carrying to live off of while walking 50 miles over the next several days.
For example, I'm taking just one light - a very small headlamp. And zero extra batteries. You have way more fire starting material than I'd ever consider carrying. A Bic mini, plus a spare, is all I carry and more than I have ever needed. You have far, far more in the way of knives and multitools than I'd ever be willing to carry more than a few hundred yards, too.
My starting pack weight for this trip, is just over 24 lbs. About 8% of that, is whiskey and cigars. Another four pounds is water to start with, another 6 pounds of food. When I come off the trail on Sunday, my pack will weigh less than 15 pounds, including some left over food and water (but hopefully no left over whiskey or cigars).
That remaining 14 pounds or so includes a full shelter, comfortable 3 season sleeping arrangements (pillow included), enough warm clothes to keep me comfy down into the low 20's, full rain gear, a stove and cook set, repair kit, first aid kit, wash/hygiene kit, camera, binocular, GPS, multitool, fire starting material, water filter (and backup purification tablets), half a dozen water containers, and more.
For every day, I keep a pistol, a knife, a flashlight, pocket full of $20's and an Altoid tin of fishing line handy. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
- DAA
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 21, 2015, 12:20 PM:
Reckon I ought to trim a few things out of there. Sure wish I could learn to be a minimalist, but what would I do without a kitchen sink?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 21, 2015, 12:27 PM:
Yes, of course. Go with the "Naked And Afraid" solution.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 21, 2015, 12:50 PM:
Much better than the ""way more shit than I could possibly need" solution.
- DAA
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 21, 2015, 12:53 PM:
P.S...
Out of curiosity, have any of you ever actually been in a "survival" situation? I have. With about 1% of what is in that list. And I never had the slightest concern, doubt, fear, worry, nothing, no drama whatsoever, that I was going to "survive".
I knew I had a shit sandwich to eat. And I'd have to eat every bite of it. But, not much of what Chad carries all the time, would have actually been of much use. Most of it would have been dead, dragging down, as in get the fuck rid of it, useless weight.
- DAA
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 21, 2015, 12:59 PM:
Double P.S...
The thing I didn't have, that I most wished for, was food and water.
Other than that, a Bic lighter and some warm clothes and half a fucking brain was more than enough to survive and extricate myself. With a minimum of suffering.
I got enough moisture from snow. Could have gone weeks, without eating, if I had to. As it was, I only had to go days.
I do keep water purification in the vehicles these days... And usually a little freeze dried food, too.
But, honestly, if it's more than me just getting myself fucked in the backcountry, if we're talking societal upheaval or massive natural disaster or whatever, my plan is to stark killing idiots and taking their shit.
- DAA
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 21, 2015, 02:02 PM:
I had a neighbor (liberal democrat) once tell me that he was prepared for a natural disaster. He had wine, cheese and Krugerrands. He mentioned that being the outdoor type that I was probably also prepared. I told him that yes, I have a .357 Magnum and know where I can get wine, cheese and Krugerrands.
He was kind of nervous around me after the NorthRidge earthquake. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 21, 2015, 03:04 PM:
Alright... That's it. Expect to see a photo of me this summer standing over a wild boar with a bloody knife, (probably a Havalon with only one blade), clenched in my teeth. Wearing nothing but a loin cloth........
and a Camelbak full of useless shit.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 21, 2015, 05:38 PM:
I have a buddy that insists on bringing a fair size suitcase radio that can contact commercial airliners. It seems to weigh close to one hundred pounds? The snaps have never been opened. If in the event it's ever needed, I hope the batteries work?
Yes, I agree with Dave. The best survival kit is just being resourceful.
I hunted with a buddy in a VeeDub one time. He had nothing, had a flat, no lug wrench, no jack. He walked down the road to a house way out in the sticks and came back with a four way speed wrench, the guy just gave it to him, keep it. We made due with driving up on a rock. And, this is a guy that will never learn.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on April 22, 2015, 04:54 PM:
Dave I've never been in a life or death situation but I have had to use my meds when my ear was giving me fits with vertigo. I've used a few bandaids, some mole skin once for a blister, tweezers for pull out a good sized splinter after cutting it out mostly. I know these things are trivial but simply having them in my bag made the day more bearable.
As for my dad breaking his back and ankle, when he came to after the 20' fall, he couldn't walk but was able to drag himself to his 4 wheeler. He the rode back to his truck and once he climbed in, he stuffed a pizza box behind his back and drove the 40 miles back to town.
So maybe I should add a pizza box to my kit.
Shit does happen.
Posted by Fur_n_Dirt (Member # 4467) on April 22, 2015, 09:16 PM:
No survival kit for me... If I break down, it will probably be between two circle k stores..
My dad was big into it in the80's when he felt the world was going to end.. I still remember trying to eat those freeze dried eggs..
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 23, 2015, 03:52 AM:
Chadwick, I just picked up one of these for elk hunting this year. Figured we coulda put it to use the last two years, and it'd be worth having along?
Raingear is great & all, but if we're stuck out miles from camp, it'd sure be nice to huddle up under a rain-break! 8oz. for the silnylon option, and could maybe shave an extra ounce or two with titanium stakes...
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on April 23, 2015, 08:00 AM:
One year I was hunting alone on the Arizona Strip so I purchased one of these:
http://findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100
It uses satellite communication and sends your GPS coordinates to Spot headquarters. They in turn contact the local sheriff with your GPS location and that you've hit the panic button. There is an annual subscription with the service. I've let mine lapse for now. You do need clear view of the sky for both the GPS and Sat comm systems to function.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on April 23, 2015, 04:53 PM:
Here you go, guys. A little food for thought from a recognized modern civilian survival authority.
http://angeryamerican.net/content.php/136-My-Vision-of-the-Perfect-Personal-Survival-Kit
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 23, 2015, 05:00 PM:
Fred, that looks slick. I might get one too. If we are on the move in the rain (or graupel) it would make a nice pack cover too. Good price.
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on April 27, 2015, 07:04 PM:
I carry a knife and a leatherman, that's about it, I cary a first aid kit on the 4-wheeler, in the pickup I have most anything I think I could ever need but like daa said food and water are the main things, and a first aid kit, the one in the pickup is a field surgeons army kit I figure with that and grub I can go along ways
Posted by cornstalker (Member # 4593) on April 27, 2015, 08:18 PM:
I bet it's a really cool knife too. Eh, Ryan?
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on April 27, 2015, 09:08 PM:
About the only item I always have is water, I religiously toss a half gallon orange juice container full of water in the truck bed the night before the coming days hunt. It gets good and frozen so it stays cool all day.
If I dug around the cab of my truck I might luckily find a half roll of ass wipe under one of the seats, a half used little white tub of Carmex, maybe a lighter, and I think there are two old, outdated MRE packs in the jack compartment?
No cell phone, no med kit, no lights, no rope, no medications....nothing really. As long as I have my rifle, a stool, calls and ammunition, Im good to go?
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 28, 2015, 03:19 AM:
I found out one of my buddies was carrying a SPOT device this past weekend. I wanted to go all Captain Quint with the radio on that piece of shit thing and smash it with a rock. But I didn't... But I wanted to... Hate those things...
- DAA
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