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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 15, 2015, 02:48 PM:
I'm not sure what to think ? Just seems like the sky gets littered with something from time to time, I look up and it's whoa trails all over.
Any thoughts or opinions ?
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 16, 2015, 03:29 AM:
I remember learning about what formed contrails back in school. The term 'condensation nuclei' comes back to mind...
Basically, contrails are formed behind airplanes due to the tiny (and hot) exhaust particles condensing the surrounding air as they cool off. The moisture squeezed out of the air during condensation cools very rapidly at altitude, and literally freezes to those tiny exhaust particles.
Viola! Instant 'cloud' formed...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 16, 2015, 06:34 AM:
And, there is the Conspiracy Element. I think they believe the government is poisoning the atmosphere with the intent to make penises limp. Might be something to it?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 16, 2015, 04:13 PM:
Man, I don't know ?
Skies are perfect here the last few days. Maybe there's more air traffic on some days more than others.
Always seems like before a storm, the sky gets criss/crossed with 'em.
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on April 16, 2015, 05:37 PM:
Contrails are ice crystals caused by aircraft engines at high altitude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail
Chemtrails are nothing but conspiracy theory. They say they're spreading a chemical that allows mind control. My problem with that is if it's true, who isn't affected?
Up in Alaska the Navy built a huge underground antenna to communicate with our submarines while they are submerged. It was also supposed to be for mind control the people who believe this crap say that's why the Republican Guard dropped their weapons in Iraq.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 16, 2015, 07:46 PM:
Moe, did you ever know Skip Christensen, Orange County Chapter?
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on April 17, 2015, 06:46 AM:
I don't recall. I met guys from other chapters at the combined hunts like the river hunts and a daytime only hunt in the Owens.
Pete Hofer is the only guy I remember that was in another chapter, maybe San Gabriel? Pete and I hunted a lot before he moved to Washington. Fun, fun guy. He had an old pickup he never drove over 40 mph. He'd tell me to calm down. The animals would still be there when we arrived. And they were. We killed a lot of critters together.
The most enjoyable times I've ever had calling were with Pete. I was sorry to hear of his death several years back.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 17, 2015, 07:19 AM:
Yeah, I knew Pete. Christensen's son is looking for his dad's old partners. Skip died about a year ago.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on April 17, 2015, 09:06 AM:
Pete and I were sitting in his truck one night drinking coffee south of Hemet. It started pouring rain when a sheriffs car pulled up behind us. He came to the window and asked what we were doing. We told him and he shined his light into the bed of the truck and saw the two bobcats we had there. He said that some woman called dispatch and told them that a woman was being raped. She said she could hear her screaming. Had to be one of us blowing on the call.
He was pretty cool with it. He laughed and took his soaked to the bone body back to his car and drove off.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 17, 2015, 11:09 AM:
One night, up north, we were on a parallel side road to Highway 6, pretty late. There was not a town within 25-30 miles. As we normally do, seeing a set of approaching headlights, we shut down, waiting for it to pass.
So, as the vehicle got closer, it slowed down, suspiciously slow, in fact. He went on by and we could see it was a Cruiser, but before he got too far, he turned around and came back, and again very slow.
He must have had a real good idea of where we were because he started shining his spotlight just before getting even with us, saw our rig and pulled to the side of the highway. It was close enough that he could talk to us without shouting or using his speaker and....He asked how we were doing?
He was a predator hunter, just curious. Didn't stay long, but friendly, wished us good luck and continued on his way. Not a very common event, and if he had not been a night hunter he would probably not have found us, but he knew exactly what he was looking at from several miles away and was quite sure of who we were, what we were doing, and had a damned good idea of exactly where we were. Nobody else would have checked all the boxes, and taken the effort.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on April 17, 2015, 07:47 PM:
I never did figure this out
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 17, 2015, 08:51 PM:
"I believe there used to be an airport around here somewhere" ????? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 18, 2015, 07:43 AM:
Now, that's a weird one Tom ?
I'm not a conspiracy guy, per-say. I just wonder about stuff that, I find unusual to my simple mind.
I saw a contrail yesterday, they fade away. Chemtrails or my interpretation of what one is, seem to spread and never completely fade away on a blue sky sunny day.
We've been talking about this @ work lately. Which BTW I didn't instigate (lol) and guys are getting into mild arguments !
[ April 18, 2015, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 18, 2015, 07:46 AM:
I've occasionally seen the grid patterns. Pretty sure those are from some sort of imaging process. Google earth type stuff, but from much lower altitude, for what purpose, only the Shadow knows...
- DAA
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 18, 2015, 08:08 AM:
There ya go Dave !! That's something to chew on.
I kinda wondered about Storm Tracking, putting something in the air to track jet streams and such ?
Whatever it is, they ain't telling.
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on April 18, 2015, 08:42 AM:
Commercial passenger jets always have to fly IFR, Instrument Flight Rules, even on a clear day. There are systems across the US called VOR's, VHF Omni Range, and the jets fly on radials generated by the equipment. I'm a pilot and I know what I'm talking about. Separation is done by assigning different altitudes to the individual airplanes. Throughout the US commercial passenger flights are under ground control.
Military jets also have to follow certain rules but aside from the basic safety rules they have more latitude. My guess is the figure 8 contrail in the picture was caused by a military jet doing a figure 8 for whatever reason.
I have a long time friend who keeps up with all of this conspiracy stuff and allows me to scoff at him when he comes to visit.
BTW, did you know that Obama ordered the military to drop a nuclear bomb on Charleston, NC? Yeah but the pilot decided to drop it out a sea instead.
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