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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 10, 2014, 07:00 AM:

I had service at Nissan yesterday then went to Pep Boys where I bought the Hankooks because I had a slow leaker. Screw in the tread, no charge.

Sudden thought. Anybody remember an event at a Terrible Herbst in Kingman, must have been over thirty years ago? I think it was a father and son working on a split rim, decapitated both. Now, that's guaranteed to ruin your day.

So, gathering gear, sorting stuff, you know how that goes. Already did at least 1%; sharpened a couple knives and managed to cut my finger doing it, on the black surgical hard Arkansas stone, yet. I like a sharp knife. Can't get careless.

I think tire mechanics have to, must be entry level neanderthal mechanical? I have seen them strip wheel lugs, and on shocks. They never remember to replace the cap on a valve stem.

See you guys at the ronde.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on October 10, 2014, 07:32 AM:

Just got new tires @ Mavis couple weeks ago. I always slip the tire monkey a $20 from the git-go, which seems to 'humanize' them, and lessen the chance they not totally fuck your shit up. Still, I bring my own torque wrench & insist they use it, over the in-house 1" drive air ratchet from Hell...

At the time, I noticed a front brake pad wearing unevenly, and sho-nuff, had a froze up piston on the caliper. Came to the shop early this morning & swapped out both calipers with fresh pads. Rotors looked OK, so just left 'em be. Can't complain, got dang near 200K on the original set of calipers!

Safe driving to the Ronde!!!

[ October 10, 2014, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]

Posted by KaBloomR (Member # 4252) on October 10, 2014, 07:33 AM:

I knew an old fellow that used to seat the bead on semi tires using starting fluid and a match. He said sometimes it worked - and sometimes it didn't. I think he cheated death performing this feat, and died of other causes years later?
Definitely neanderthal mentality as I remember.

Anyhow, I'm currently sitting impatiently 2 hours longer than I should be at Chicago's wonderful fuggin' O'Hare, wondering how much longer of a delay until I can get back to Utah. I would really like to get a start on my campout packing too.....

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on October 10, 2014, 07:38 AM:

You guys don't be so safe you don't have any fun! Enjoy it. Wish I could go. Not possible. Not going anywhere, doing anything for awhile anyway - back. Had a deer hunt planned for next weekend that I won't be doing either.

I've seen tire beads seated with the starting fluid and a match a couple times on the trail. I've always just used a ratchet strap though and so far that has worked every time. The starting fluid is definitely faster and way more entertaining though!

- DAA

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on October 10, 2014, 07:39 AM:

I believe that seating a bead on truck tires is taught at an early age in the Dominican Republic!!!

Have seen some funny azz shit over the years, involving starter fluid & truck tires, LOL...

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 10, 2014, 08:25 AM:

I remember one time, a puncture in the sidewall, took about three doubled up plugs that kept trying to push itself out but eventually held air. And, we were in the middle of the night with Border Patrol lasering us from an observation peak. They never actually made contact but it was distracting, nonetheless, probably 500 yards from the border. But the damned thing held, looked crazy.

Then, there is crawling in the mud, replacing U joints. I usually carry spares and I have three different types, unfortunately, on the Dodge.

Mechanical shit is one thing. How about an electrical fire under the dash, summer time, Death Valley? A bitch to fix with friggin' moths drawn to the light and my face and vertigo kicking in. That wasn't half of it the extinguisher caused a lot of corrosion down there, eventually. <sigh>

All fun stuff.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 10, 2014, 10:14 AM:

Its called "good times" lol.
Have fun everybody.
Mark

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 10, 2014, 06:16 PM:

All those bumps, complications and minor disasters, are what allow us, when shooting the shit with our hunting pards, to utter that magical phrase...."remember that time".
If everything went smooth and problem free, what in the hell would there be to remember?
Ive got dozens of memories and stories of when things went south, but I cherish every damned one of them.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 10, 2014, 06:51 PM:

You know, Pep Boys has called me twice now, wanting to know why the first call, I said I was sorta satisfied with my service. So, I told them, yeah they chipped the "paint" on my wheel, didn't rotate the tires like they said they did, and my pet peeve, somehow lost the cap for the valve stem.

"Umm, well, thank you for that, we appreciate your business." And I said, I don't look a gift horse in the mouth, if they had charged me, I would have been a lot more unhappy.

So, Vic, what's it going to be? These people come a long ways to get to visit with a living legend, one of the original Coyote Gods. You know, tell the kids they shook your hand, etc.?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: but I agree, it's the bad trips that are remembered most fondly. And, I certainly have my share of memories.

[ October 10, 2014, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on October 11, 2014, 05:54 AM:

Weather report: mornings 43 , afternoons 79.
I'm with Vic ,let's make some memories.

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 11, 2014, 09:20 AM:

Yup, as aggravating as it me seem @ the time. The flat tires, being stuck in the mud, dead battery's ect..Often times miles & miles from a town, which could be 100 people or less. Are what creates fond memory's for down the road.

Weird huh ?

This is something city folk will never understand. They'd flip cuzz they had no cell coverage ect.

We cuss a little or a lot, and somehow figure it out, sometimes by pure luck.

Indeed, good times !!

[ October 11, 2014, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on October 11, 2014, 10:36 AM:

Couldn't agree more Vic. Adversity adds spice.

And as most of us get older, I'm more interested in seeing old friends and making new, than killing a few more coyotes, on a deal like this.

Wish I could make it.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 11, 2014, 10:40 AM:

Yeah, we had fun in Northern Nevada, didn't we? Rescued by a tractor. No coyotes, but who cares?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on October 11, 2014, 12:44 PM:

I use starting fluid and a match (thrown from a distance) when seating the tire on a wheel barrow.

Works like a champ!

I should probably knock on wood or something, but I just don't go through brakes like other people. I'm sure most of it has to do with living right off of the highway, and most of my miles consist of highway travel...
But, my current truck has almost 220,000 and I've never put brakes on it and the pads still look like they're about 1/2 there.
Last time I had tire work done, I asked the tire monkey how many miles he thought were on those pads and he guessed 60K.

My last truck had something like 260,000 miles on it, and I never put brakes on it either!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 11, 2014, 01:32 PM:

You sound a bit like me? I had to ask my neighbor across the street to drive me to and from the hospital for a procedure in which they mandated I couldn't drive myself.

Now this guy is a Viet Nam vet, but he seems not to notice an obvious stop situation right in front of him until the last minute. And, it drove me nuts! I mean, I see a red light in front of me and I start coasting. This guy is still on the gas 50% past where I would start applying a little pressure. Then, he hard brakes with four or five car lengths to spare! I couldn't help but mention a couple times and he said; he knows how to drive. That's debatable, in my opinion.

I mean, nice comfortable Jag, but I couldn't relax with this guy. He must go through brakes like crazy? I have 130,00 on my Nissan, brakes are fine, but third set of tires.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 11, 2014, 02:06 PM:

Paul;
It's memories you want ??
I'm bringing a 4 foot tall rabbit decoy dressed like a hooker.
We can stand it up next to El Bee's tent and take photographs to blackmail him for free HuntMasters membership & unlimited posting privileges.

(Uh..........He HAS left already and can't read this, right ??)

[Big Grin]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 11, 2014, 03:39 PM:

A 4 foot tall rabbit decoy dressed like a hooker? Is that the one you use to cheat in the diamond lane?

I can steal WiFi almost anywhere.

By the way, do we have cell phone coverage on site? That other place, we had to drive to the top of a hill over a half a mile away. You know, up where the coyotes howled every night?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on October 11, 2014, 05:49 PM:

I will be one of those dreaded "no-shows" Leonard. Im heading to Arizona, but not in time to make the shindig. My son and I are leaving this Friday, and will be at the home place in McNeal by Saturday around noon. Had a nasty hail storm blow thru two months ago and ruined my roof, so he and I are putting on a metal roof over the damaged asphalt shingle roof that's on it now.
I'd sure enjoy seeing everyone, I really hope one year, all of us can see our way to make it at least once for a big get together. One day; some of, "all of us" ain't gonna be around to meet any more.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on October 11, 2014, 07:33 PM:

That was a heckuva good time Leonard. Even sitting on my tailgate smoking cigars waiting for Wiley to come back with the cavalry [Big Grin]

.

- DAA

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 11, 2014, 08:26 PM:

Ooops !!!!! [Eek!]

A Diamond Lane in Safford Arizona ?? [Big Grin]

I'm heading up to Alpine tomorrow for a quick bear hunt. Maybe they have one. [Big Grin]

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 12, 2014, 10:38 AM:

Went up looking for bear yesterday, we're in the middle of rifle season here, and wanted to go up for the day. I missed one during archery a few weeks ago, trying to thread the needle between some branches. You can guess what happened there.

Anyways, I must be getting soft in my middle age, but I let a bear walk yesterday, just because he seemed to be having a great time scratching himself on a tree and just generally in a good mood. He was on the small side anyways, but I just walked away.

Am I becoming a wuss? I just had no desire to shoot him. Any other day I would have punched his ticket.
Mark

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 12, 2014, 11:17 AM:

LoneDude;
One gains experience to the point of not needing to prove anything to anybody and we realize that sometimes the best way to ruin a perfectly good hunting trip is to shoot something.
I detect no wuss actions on your part.
Drive on.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 12, 2014, 11:31 AM:

However, we will have to put you on probationary status until you prove your cajones....

(just kidding)

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 12, 2014, 09:54 PM:

Heard from Dan, (the Man) sends his regrets, can't make it. It's been a long time since I have known an adult act more like a fucking spoiled brat, never seen a grown man take a banning so hard, either. Well deserved banning. I otter kick his narrow ass; and you can tell him that on his chickenshit board. Asshole.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on October 13, 2014, 04:41 PM:

You will have cell service at the site however the first one caught looking into the blue gray abyss at the campfire will be posed in a compromising position with KoKo's rabbit. Photos will be on Facebook before you wake.

[ October 13, 2014, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]

Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on October 13, 2014, 04:51 PM:

Just looked at the forecast at 2 different sites. Wind is always a crapshoot in Ash Fork, but both are predicting favorable conditions for the weekend. This is gonna be good!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 14, 2014, 08:03 AM:

I just need the ap that shows me where to go, in order to avoid bobcats. I don't want to be blowing huge holes in Paul's critters. Because, I can't say, NO.

I sometimes wish this Middlested was less destructive; like my 22-250Ackley which blows through any varmint with a very polite quarter size exit.

Somewhere in the combination of 62Berger@3810, and the 65Berger@3925 seems to make one hell of a difference? But, I can't lug an 18 pound truck gun on daylight stands.

Well, keep my fingers crossed. I've got an itch for a long tail!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 14, 2014, 08:14 AM:

You probly need a .17 then? : )

[ October 14, 2014, 08:15 AM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 14, 2014, 10:21 AM:

I can't help it. They send me notices on PP and talk about a WANNABE, NASA has excoriated me in just about every way possible. Never mind that he is also a pathological liar. Right to my face he made statements about how he managed to shoot himself in the foot. Then later, forgot what he told me-oops! Turns out, that's his method of discovering who is talking shit about him. Checks feedback, then knows who did the gossiping. A fucking loser, grossly overweight, damned near died a couple times, on borrowed time and has the nerve to post complete bullshit. Read it here:

quote:
NASA has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Huntmastersbbs giant (really big) campout, cook out, look out.".
LEO is a clinical example of an aged flaming egotist that has nothing to be egotistical about. Even his ancient "trophy's" weren't acquired through skill or experience, but through cheating, rules violations, and backstabbing club members and friends. Now, alone, sickly and in his 70's, abandoned by all but a few sympathetic souls, he re-writes his own history on a message board he claims as a personal kingdom. A fitting end for a selfish, pathetic loser.

This asshole should be ashamed of himself! Sounds like I don't deserve to live? And, talk about fucking UGLY! You can't bear to look at him. Well, I know, not many can be as ruggedly handsome as I. Perhaps that's the reason for this irrational jealousy? The man is sick, no other reason for posting such trash on a public forum. Oh well, some might say I'm guilty, but ll I did was ban the ogre five years ago and he can't get over it.

And, he's another one, like Carey, doesn't hunt, just a groupie. Can't hunt; actually, I doubt he could walk ten yards from a vehicle without getting winded, he's in such poor shape? A big fat slob. Geezus, grown man, so small! You have no good reason for this attack, Tom. You're pathetic. And, I once took pity on him when he was in the hospital and gave him back his permissions. As the above rant shows, he can't handle it, and didn't last too long. Between him and FruitLoops, they are the only two members banned twice. (pity can be misguided, folks)

Good hunting. El Bee

PS There have been about ten/twelve people banned on HM, four of them, screen names belonging to Rob Krause, and two to Bruce Kennedy. Yet Carey hysterically whines that I have banned everybody in Arizona! Dan, you have a serious mental problem, Tom Turner apparently is in the later stages of Alzheimer's?

This is so stupid! Really, Dan. Thanks for starting this shit. Asshole!

[ October 14, 2014, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by KaBloomR (Member # 4252) on October 14, 2014, 03:21 PM:

You seem to have lost me on the last post, LB? Maybe I'm too new here, but what is PP, and who is NASA, if you care to elaborate?

I'll see you guys Thursday afternoon.

p.s. I'll let you borrow my shitty little .22 Hornet for your bobcat.....

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 15, 2014, 10:05 AM:

Yeah, this goes back a long ways. Some of these guys have been around since before Huntmasters; Posse Country and The Shadetree. And the new Huntmasters goes back to 2002, before that there was the original Huntmasters.

Anyway, there are some hard feeling between some of us old timers, maybe not admirable, but in some cases understandable?

PP refers to Predator Professionals, started by Rich Higgins and Dan Carey. They were (afterward) coming in here and string shit and I asked them to go away, which they laughed at, so eventually I had to suspend their accounts, whichI do with great reluctance, believe me.

NASA is Tom Turner, been around on the boards for a long time, but for some reason, on Huntmasters, has always got his jollys by needling me on a personal level. I eventually lost patience with him and banned him then reinstated him and then banned him again for the exact same reasons; just always digging at me, to piss me off. (see my sig line) Of course, this represents a personal failure on my part, as well.

But getting back to his vicious and irresponsible charges. Here's the thing, he only is repeating gossip, things he has no personal knowledge of, and to say slanderous things about which his has absolutely no way of knowing if I was cheating while participating in these contests? Understand, I was the Hunt Chairman, I ran all state hunts for eleven years straight. Occasionally, and unfortunately, I had to disqualify people for being late, or some other infraction. Pissed a few off and others expected enforcement of rules: can't win them all, nor please everybody?

I never hunted with anybody except my son and my regular partner of over 25 years. Neither of them would give NASA or Clever Gary the time of day, much less talk about how I was cheating in the contests for my own benefit. I will mention, modestly, that I have had considerable success, and those guys did not. This causes jealousy, for some immature people, they like to gossip like a bunch of old women.

So, there you go. He never knew me, I never laid eyes on him before the boards, and he is repeating particularly irresponsible rumors. What does that say about his honesty and integrity? You guys know me, do I comport myself as a liar and a cheat? I hope not? But we have a few disgruntled people that are not pleasant or comfortable in their own skin. Someone that lies and cheats just assumes everybody does it! That's still a far cry from repeating these lies on the Internet which is particularly disingenuous, in my view.

I don't cheat at Solitaire or anything else. To win a friggin' trophy? Give me a break. No, I am fairly competent, unlike Clever Gary, or Tom Turner, or Dan, (the man). I have been killing predators since the sixties, and it's not my intent to brag about it but facts are facts...I pretty much know what I am doing; I don't need to cheat.

So that's it. These guys are so immature they are trying to torpedo our little ronde which gives them satisfaction, and is something so foreign to me that I just can't understand why grown men would bother engaging in something so fucking childish?

My personal Kingdom? I tolerate more sass than any comparable message board on the 'net and believe me, sometimes it's not worth the grief. Notice, I don't make a dime from this, it's a personal contribution to the sport, no advertisements, pay all expenses out of my own pocket which is uncommon with message boards in general. These guys don't do anything productive, just snipe at honest effort and repeat complete lies. That tells you about the integrity of these pathetic individuals! And, Tom Turner has been an uninvited guest in my home; I am sorry to admit. A fucking, lying snake! And, he is nowhere near as evil as is Clever Gary, that guy is a real piece of work!

I rest my case. El Bee
(see you at the ronde)

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 15, 2014, 07:58 PM:

I have arrived, just pulled off the Interstate, and surprised myself, got a room for the night. WTF. Who knows, maybe there is breakfast somewhere around town, in the morning?

Quiet, cheap and reasonably clean, couldn't resist.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on October 17, 2014, 07:40 AM:

I wish I was going. I just got back from Ohio and have two more days of catch up work to do. Also I leave in 11 days for a week on Lake Powell to kill lots of Striped Bass, another top predator fish.

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 17, 2014, 08:57 AM:

What is going on out there? Any killing going on?

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on October 17, 2014, 09:50 AM:

Yeah!?!
Inquiring minds need to know!!!

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 17, 2014, 06:00 PM:

It must be a secret?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 18, 2014, 09:49 AM:

Yeah coyotes everywhere ! Elk burgers last nite. Again tonite.

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on October 18, 2014, 12:41 PM:

umm elk burgers.

You know the rules, no pictures, it didn't happen. I don't make the rules, I just follow orders sir.

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 18, 2014, 02:09 PM:

Coyote hunting, followed by Elk burgers. Sounds splendid. Probably ought to have a few Miller Lites for good measure.

Have fun dudes. I'm just sitting here with the after hours phone, waiting for the next Combine guy to call me.

Oh well (deep) sigh.. [Wink]

Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on October 19, 2014, 08:11 PM:

Just a taste. If you couldn't make it, you missed out.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 20, 2014, 08:43 AM:

My God! What the hell, is that?

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 20, 2014, 08:58 AM:

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[ October 20, 2014, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 20, 2014, 10:38 AM:

The fact that those guys were banned from PM and a few other boards says a lot about them.

Several years ago Gary was looking for some old CVCA paraphernalia in order to put some things together for a new chapter so I sent him what I had left of my old pins, fox, coyote, bobcat, raccoon, etc, and what patches I had. I've never seen any evidence that he put it to good use.

To read what they write they're the final word in this sport and are outraged when someone questions them. I've left some boards because of them and a few other guys I can do without.

Speaking of Predatorprofessionals Danny Batastini posted some old pictures of me that he took off another site without my permission. I've never joined that board because of the level of arrogance there. Not meaning Danny.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 20, 2014, 03:34 PM:

Moe, that ignorant asshole has already responded on PP that he put your shit in the Orange County scrapbook. He also says that everybody in the State organization over the more than fifty years of it's existence were lawbreakers and poachers; well, except for him. He definitely needs his ass kicked.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 20, 2014, 03:52 PM:

"What kind of man teaches his children to poach?"

You know, due to coincidence, a friend John Van Oort happened to know Gary as a kid in Bell or one of those suburbs close to L.A. Except, his name wasn't Clevenger but at some point as an adult, his grandfather begged him to take care of him and he would be responsible for his, (grandfather's) wealth. According to John, Gary promptly put his grand dad in a home and spent a good portion of his money on a fancy house out in Canyon Country, to his everlasting shame.

Of course, I know next to nothing about Clever Gary's business than he does of mine, so just saying....

Oh, yeah. He legally changed his last name to his grandfather's, kinda like Orvil Redenbackers' nephew. When I asked him about it, he claimed his grandfather, (old and infirm) adopted him. :roll eyes:

So, that's our self appointed Conscience of the California Predator Hunting Community.

Good hunting. El Bee

PS this just in! Clever Gary claims the Pope went to bed without brushing his teeth. Film at eleven!

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 21, 2014, 07:06 AM:

I know next to nothing about the guy, only what I've observed. BTW, who in the hell is Bill??

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2014, 07:50 AM:

Don't know who you mean? Bill Sigman, maybe?

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 21, 2014, 08:10 AM:

Leonard, as you know the California regs were very much different back in the days when I hunted there. Coyotes, cougars, bobcats, badgers were all unprotected and could be taken at any time and by any means. So how could anyone poach a coyote? And what weapons were illegal?

Now this has turned into a pissing match and he's giving hunters a bad name. For me it ends here right now.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2014, 04:12 PM:

Exactly! No matter how much bad blood there may be between us, he is shameful for spreading these lies over the fucking Internet, fer christsake!

Besides that, you have three idiots repeating gossip and there is an element that will swallow all their bullshit, just like they did.

They act like they know things they can't possibly know about. You know how people in the clubs protect all information, sharing NOTHING ! There has always been extreme jealousy between Orange County and Riverside towards my club, San Gabriel. Why, you ask? Because we won everything, that's why.

I never saw NASA on a State Hunt. I saw Clever Gary on a few State Hunts but he never won a damned thing! I don't recall him ever turning in an animal?

So, When I started out, I got sort of lucky and between me and my partner, managed to kill seven animals in Nevada and we took second place. That hooked me but I had a very hard time believing anybody could kill ten/twelve animals? I couldn't believe it, (that is) until I did it.

Gary never killed a damned thing and NASA didn't even try, he's so grossly obese he can hardly get out of the truck, so take what they say with a huge grain of salt! Clever Gary has carved a niche wading into heavy brush with a scattergun and now he thinks he a friggin "coyote god", besides the historian and the conscience of the California Varmint Hunting Community; which is laughable.

For that matter, Dan (for sure) don't know shit! I guarantee, he doesn't know anybody I have ever hunted with, and that's a fact, jack! I hunted one weekend one time with Higgins and his son and my grandson, but that proves nothing. I hunted over twenty-five years with one partner and fifteen more with my son and another guy from our club. None would even talk to any of those guys, so all they have to go by is old woman gossip by a bunch of losers, and that's what they are, complete and total losers.

Hard to believe they can be so childish, just because they misbehaved and I had to pull the plug on their membership in Huntmasters. So, now they have their little forum and use it in such a shameful manor that it's difficult to believe grown men could act the way they do. You know, anybody can say anything on the Internet. I have been advised to completely ignore them, and that's probably good advice I should take?

Gary, Dan, Scott and NASA. Where do people like that find each other? They are the same breed of lying cocksuckers, that's for sure. [Smile]

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 21, 2014, 04:29 PM:

Wow....I can't believe the level of snivelling and whining coming out of one guy. You'd think someone took away his binkie. And I wonder if he realizes that when he trashes you and me he is also trashing Danny B?

Those guys don't want to post about hunting and having fun doing it. They want to be considered experts and when they say other sites have banned all of the knowledgeable hunters I guess they mean themselves. Well, I hate to burst their bubble but I'm personally acquainted with several very knowledgeable guys who are still around. Not posting much but still there.

I'm not a member over there for reasons I've already stated but Danny was a friend and I occasionally take a look at his thread there. I noticed someone has removed my pictures from the site. I'm crushed. I also wanted to be a legend in my own mind.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2014, 05:12 PM:

They closely monitor this site, that's for sure.

You may not know this but I have known Danny for a long time, we went to high school together. El Monte Union High School.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 21, 2014, 07:07 PM:

I remember you having a discussion with Danny at either the old California Varmint hunters or California predators club site and you saying that.

I lived in China when I started high school but came back to the states in time to graduate from West Covina High. I went to Mt San Antonio College for a while then went to USF.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2014, 08:22 AM:

Well, (umm) to my everlasting embarrassment, one time Danny mentioned, (in a group of club members) that he was actually afraid of me, in high school. He said I had the reputation of a "bad ass"?

Ok, maybe I was a bit rowdy? I did box golden gloves, but, you know, everybody does stupid shit in high school. For sure, Danny was on the shy side and I was a year older. He might have felt compelled to hug the wall in the hallways, or risk getting stuffed in a locker, like Napoleon Dynamite?

Other than that, I'd like to stuff that twerp, Dan, (the man) in a friggin' wall locker! lol That'd be fun!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on October 22, 2014, 08:57 AM:

I'm a pretty big guy but the only thing I've ever boxed was groceries.

This trip we're on is way too short to be living our lives as bitter people. I hunt and fish for enjoyment not for the approval of anyone else. I always thought these sites were places people of like mind could come to have a pleasant discussion of topics of interest to all of us. Guys needle and joke because that's what we do but a few just get mean and that's uncalled for.

Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on October 22, 2014, 04:28 PM:

Fer Chrissakes, time for another pic....

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 22, 2014, 05:10 PM:

Skinning off a swing set ? Sweet !!

Post more pic's if you guys got 'em.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2014, 06:30 PM:

That's Kabloomer's first bobcat. That's the guest of honor, the one everybody came to see, looking at the camera. Kokopelli, or Richard Roop, as some call him.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Fur_n_Dirt (Member # 4467) on October 22, 2014, 06:56 PM:

More pics, please. :-)

[ October 22, 2014, 07:01 PM: Message edited by: Fur_n_Dirt ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2014, 07:35 PM:

Come on! Aren't you one of the guys that had better things to do? I'm getting excoriated concerning the low turnout by the assholes at PP, and you guys want pictures. That's all we took, sorry!

....Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'll get over it, but you better not let me down NEXT YEAR ! And, the rest, you know who you are. This is total bullshit!

Next campout will have a one year advance, and a thousand dollar deposit, refunded 100% when you show up. You in?

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 22, 2014, 09:00 PM:

Treebark? Neat:)

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2014, 07:03 AM:

Koko had all the gear emblazoned on his body. Started off with a Weems hat, and a kokopelli tee shirt when first arrived then a smooth transition to various camouflage.....although, come to think of it, I never saw him actually leave camp? Oh well, he did manage with the bunny since there was nobody home when he arrived. Think of "it" as similar to the black blow up lamb that Higgins used to bring to campouts. I even asked if I could keep it but; No way!

So, we had an informal meeting and kinda decided to announce the next ronde WELL in advance. Paul is okay with his property as headquarters and let me tell you, it is BY FAR the best location in over ten years and four (or possibly five) different locations.

So far, every campout has been in October but we are strongly considering January, and "Melching Acres" is above 5,000 ft. elevation, so bring your long johns.

I'm telling you, rather than the wishful thinking of the PP assholes, this will be an event you won't want to miss. Those that missed this one, did miss out. You know, fuck the hunting, it's about the meet and greet and these are some quality people worth getting to know, in person.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 23, 2014, 08:19 AM:

Yeah, TreeBark or TigerStripe. Two of my favorite patterns. Camo is a whole package concept.....not just the latest fashion pattern.

As I remember.........the wabbit was at Stately Bosinski Manor the whole time and those weren't rabbit distress sounds that we were hearing all night long. [Eek!]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2014, 10:28 AM:

Yes, t'was a tender moment, for which I shall always be in your debt.

I have never owned tiger stripe? Great for the jungle but in the Colorado desert, not so much.

One time I was with two other guys on a club hunt and we were near Amboy and Bagdad. Our strategy was to split up and make three stands at the same time, so this one time, I had a coyote round the base of the hill I was sitting on and immediately swap ends, unfortunately, on my bad side and he disappeared around the bend...but what the hell does that have to do with the subject at hand?

Anyway, I walked down to the road for my pickup and just stood there, wearing the three color desert pattern. The first pass, I sorta thought they were either fooling around, or had decided to drive up the road for some unknown reason? Of course, on a contest hunt, this is counterproductive, so I just waited for them to return.

Which they did in less than five minutes, and they kept on driving! Too late, I was waving and walking much closer to the road and when they came back the third time, I had to scream at them before they slammed on the brakes!

Honest to god, they never saw me, three times I was standing there in the open, and THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ME !

That's how good the three color day desert pattern performs in our southern Kalifornia desert.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2014, 10:47 AM:

I don't know what these things are, but I wear them every day, out in the yard? My bird likes to take a bite out of them every chance he gets, when I'm not looking.

edit: meet Pinky, my Moluccan

[ October 23, 2014, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 23, 2014, 12:07 PM:

Didn't the old `chocolate chip` pattern get phased out in favor of the newer desert pattern ???
Definitely an old classic.

[Cool]

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on October 23, 2014, 12:46 PM:

I have wanted to come to one of these since the first one that required the 300 coyote aunty.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2014, 02:32 PM:

Bryan, that was a rude suggestion by somebody, that never went anywhere.

Koko, yes, they did a different version, I think they called it chocolate chip, but I like the older. There's always something "new and improved" coming out; with the same motivation as selling attractive fishing lures to the fishermen. $$

But, getting back to the Bryan comment, you better believe that everybody shared with Kabloomer and his first bobcat, for instance. I actually believe that when you get the old timers together, there ain't much to talk about?

So, as with my grandson showing up at the campout, he might have been the only one that hasn't killed a whole bunch of coyotes, having spent the past eight years in the military. But I don't think anybody felt like he didn't belong?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on October 23, 2014, 03:32 PM:

Aaron was the MAN. Russ had him by 6 inches and 40 pounds, but he was the only one to down 2 burgers.

ETA: The camp potlickers were totally cool with that.

[ October 23, 2014, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: jimanaz ]

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on October 23, 2014, 04:00 PM:

Please do not take my comment as derogatory. As I recall at the time and in context it was kind of funny.

I have known that I would have been welcomed at each one. Coyote hunting has just taken a back seat to the kids and the farm. I will make it one of these years.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2014, 04:36 PM:

I hope you do!

It's too bad that living takes precedence, but that's the way it works. Say hi to Heather for me.

Good hunting El Bee

Posted by Fur_n_Dirt (Member # 4467) on October 23, 2014, 06:20 PM:

Well, I ask for pics and you give me pinky.. Fair enough..

Wanted to see if I missed out, probably did!

My kid took first place in the flathead kids derby that weekend. It's no coyote, but good times well!

Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on October 23, 2014, 06:44 PM:

That's a good lookin' fish!
Congrats to your son!!

Leonard, those "shoes" are called crocs, and the little holes in them are where your dignity leaks out... [Wink]

LOL!

Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on October 23, 2014, 07:18 PM:

That was just a joke by the way...
Saw it on one of those "demotivational posters".

Posted by KaBloomR (Member # 4252) on October 24, 2014, 03:45 AM:

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 24, 2014, 08:00 AM:

Duckdog - I found that out by turning them over, it's printed on the bottom=Crocks. (a lady friend bought them for me) I used to hate them but am now well into habitual to the point I am considering another pair.

That looks like a good eating size catfish? I only ate catfish once, at a campout a few years back. Ragn Cagn brought and cooked for everybody. I'm not much of a fish eater, but it was surprisingly good.

KaBloomer, that is a funny pictorial thing if you forget about the logic? See, you have penguins at the South Pole, (which is called Antarctica) and you have Polar Bears up at the Arctic-The North Pole, where Santa's Workshop is? And, it's unlikely the two would ever meet.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on October 24, 2014, 08:09 AM:

That polar bear poster made me LOL
Still love this one!!!

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