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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 18, 2014, 10:37 AM:
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Watch the video, and tell me how vicious you think that "pitbull" was, LOL
Discuss... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 18, 2014, 10:44 AM:
"Hey man... Nice shot."
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2014, 11:15 AM:
I agree 100%, Fred. Serves that cop right, should have clipped his left nut while he was at it. He should be fired for incompetence! Another Glock mishap?
Good hunting. El BeBe
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 18, 2014, 11:26 AM:
Who are you agreeing with, Leonard?
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on April 18, 2014, 02:14 PM:
"He was attacked!" Nice try, Barney. Andy better take your bullet again.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2014, 02:47 PM:
YOU, FRED! I'm agreeing with Fred C. Dobbs, in New Yawk.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on April 18, 2014, 03:31 PM:
I wonder if numbnuts (cop)had died, who would have been charged with the murder of a cop?
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 18, 2014, 04:22 PM:
Ok, cool!
I didn't really state my case yet, was all!
After seeing that video, I couldn't help but think how many " pit bulls " and similarly labeled dogs have met a fate they didn't deserve, just for being categorized by LEO, as such.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for destroying psycho dogs on a rampage. But that dog in the video, sure looked to have a sweet disposition.
Glad that turd shot his fool self! Of course, he'll maintain that his life was in imminent jeopardy. Perhaps from being licked to death!!!
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 18, 2014, 04:46 PM:
Wanna get sick to your stomach?
Watch this shit...
http://youtu.be/9gPZ3TNkKTo
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 18, 2014, 05:13 PM:
That is sickening...
I don't understand the ex-cop's role in the video.
Devil's advocate? It's always the pet owners fault because cops don't want to shoot dogs?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2014, 05:39 PM:
Don't get me wrong, JIM AND FRED. I absolutely love dogs. They are man's best friend, always will be.
My whole attitude is about the damned minority driven pit bull shit.
Those dogs are bred for mayhem, I have seen a little myself. They want a vicious dog to intimidate people. They don't deserve a dog, chained up and mistreated. Therefore, with 200 dog breeds to choose from, the least needed breed and the most dangerous, statistically.
In shelters, they can't give them away, nobody wants them. They should be licensed just to own one, with a large fee. They should be neutered and spayed. It's obvious we have way more of them than we need. Okay, I know some are gentle, never hurt a flea, until somebody leaves the baby alone and a pit bull kills the baby. And, some people say, it's not the dogs fault. Maybe not, but I can't defend those dogs, they are "potentially" dangerous!
Sorry, but that's how I feel. The world would be better off without pit bulls. If you have one and love your dog, that's great, but it's obvious that people get rid of them to a shelter. Eight out of ten dogs at local shelters here are pit bulls. And, it's a death sentence, people don't trust them, right or wrong? That's my proof, simple.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 18, 2014, 06:04 PM:
Except for the fact that most of them aren't even pit bulls...
I'm sorry Leonard, but you've been brain washed and indoctrinated by the liberal media.
Pit bull USED to be a breed, now, thanks to the media,...it's a type that encompasses several breeds.
Soooo, should we just register the ones that are scary and intimidating looking?
Or, we could just neuter them all...
Kind of like a Californian AR...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2014, 06:28 PM:
Doesn't matter, pit bull, assault rifle what it is, is as it's perceived. We don't need to see the AKC pedigree, the general shape and type etc. If I'm wrong, so is everybody else except duck dog.
And, look, Amigo. Try to be civil. I don't consider myself to be fucking "brainwashed" and highly resent you accusing me of it! It's a goddamned OPINION, and everybody, every member of this board, including you is entitled to an opinion. Except when you insult the owner of this house. That puts your opinion in a different category.
Do we understand each other?
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: do yourself a favor and read my sig. line
[ April 18, 2014, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 18, 2014, 07:55 PM:
I thought I was being civil.
And, that IS my opinion. The people of this country, are being brainwashed. Call it what you will, but...
Why are AR's referred to as assault weapons now? Because its been drilled into people's heads over and over and over.
It's the same damned thing with "pit bulls".
Have you ever heard the news report about a viscous "American staffordshire terrier" that killed some kid?
No, it's always pitbull pitbull pitbull.
That's my point...they've said it enough, everyone believes it to the point it's a derogative label.
High capacity magazine...
Sniper rifles...
Cop killer bullets...
Explosive bullets...
I don't buy the "What it is, is as it's perceived" either.
Just because some liberal news anchor calls my coyote rifle a "sniper rifle", doesn't make it so. And, I'll correct anyone who refers to it as that too.
I'm sorry if you think this insults you, and I don't mean to single you out...
but dammit...it's the truth!!
When the media changes the way people think about something...what would you call it? If "brainwashing" is offensive, I'm open to suggestions. But, it IS/HAS happened.
And, just to be clear,...a Pit is one breed that I've never owned and I've had a bunch of dogs. I just hate the bullshit fake labels.
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on April 18, 2014, 09:08 PM:
Leonard, exactly who is "they'?
I think you'll find a bunch of Chihuahua types in every shelter these days too. Same thing?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 19, 2014, 09:27 AM:
Jimanez, honestly, I don't understand the question, but rephrasing
won't help.
I will say this; this "dog" shit really brings the lunies out of the woodwork.
And a comment for Mr duck dog. Last warning: however you want to dress it up, I am not going to take another disrespectful comment. I am not brainwashed, and even if I were, I'm telling you; keep your ignorant opinion to yourself. Best thing you can do is shut the fuck up.
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 19, 2014, 09:45 AM:
Nevermind...I bow out
[ April 19, 2014, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: Duckdog ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 19, 2014, 10:40 AM:
Smart decision.
As I say from time to time, this gig has it's rewards and some tribulations. I have not been running this site for fifteen years so that I can prove that I am right about all things. I feel that it is what I do for payback because predator hunting has been good for me and if I can share my experiences and provide a platform for others to share their knowledge, that's what it is all about. This is done as a public service, I am not interested in glory but do appreciate a small measure of respect, now and then.
Over the years, now that I think about it, there has been a not insignificant expense. I always refuse contributions and advertisements and decline help in the way of moderators. This is a one man show. I ask for no praise but don't come in here and call me names and expect I will always laugh it off. Some of it I find offensive. Sometimes I object. At that point, a man is well advised to drop the matter, not reiterate it. So, that's just me. Not really the King Hell Dictator, I like to consider myself just one of the members and you guys are truly my friends.
I can't say why being accused of being brainwashed seems to bother the shit out of me but, humor me; it does.
quote:
I don't buy the "What it is, is as it's perceived" either.
This also could be considered a sassy remark. You don't have to believe or accept a damned thing I say, but just think about it for a minute. You can't walk into a man's house and shit on the floor. It's all context. That is not a particularly radical statement and the better part of valor would be to keep your own council. Especially after telling me I am brainwashed.
I'm getting old and cranky, humor me a little.
Thank you.
(edited for spelling)
[ April 19, 2014, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on April 19, 2014, 11:13 AM:
quote:
"He was attacked!" Nice try, Barney. Andy better take your bullet again.
Doesn't this seem typical now days, lie to the public, justify your fuckup, bad judgement call, whatever it is called.
Sounds like a typical lying POS politician.
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on April 19, 2014, 12:11 PM:
this is one of those topics that once someone has their mind made up, you just cant change it or even get most to try to see the other persons side. I know pits get a lot of light about biting and such, but they aint the only dogs that bite, and I can promise you I can take a pit puppy and a lab puppy and in a year have the meanest dog in the county and it wont be the pit, you know why, because a person can make any dog mean as a snake, same as kids, its the people raising them that's the problem
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 19, 2014, 12:15 PM:
Or, Harry Reid comes to mind with his "domestic terrorist" shit. Those Boston boys on welfare are domestic terrorists, not some cowboy refusing to pay grazing fees. Harry also said: "assault weapons, automatic weapons" when he is familiar with firearms and knows he is lying through his teeth. But this guy has diarrhea of the mouth, like when he charged that Romney had not paid income tax in ten years. If that were true, Eric Holder would have sent his SWAT teams to investigate. I mean, seriously, the guy raves about the Koch brothers and seems to forget that he has a couple of billionaires in his pocket, George Soros and this CA guy I can't think of his name right now. But all we hear about is Koch brothers this and Koch brothers that. He seems to think he speaks with DIVINE GUIDANCE? What Harry says is unassailable truth. He is abusing his position as majority leader of the Senate.
Good hunting. El Bee
PS duck dog, I'm kinda busy right now. No time for a chat.
If you have something to say, email works for me.
I'm heading out of town just as soon as I get out of the shower.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 19, 2014, 12:28 PM:
trapper, you are absolutely right. That's exactly what I was trying to say about the black kids and Mexicans that raise them aggressively. That's what I was referring to, and they are not necessarily, (mostly NOT) purebred, and who cares anyway?
Take the ballplayer, Vick. What's he doing these days? Not long ago he was fighting and culling aggressive dogs and they seems to think he had PIT BULLS, but nobody asked him for papers.
So, I am well aware that there are gentle loving companions that appear sorta like pit bulls. And, I am happily excluding those well bred and responsibly raised dogs.
Another thing, Jimbo. Actually, our local (no kill) shelter really does have way too many pits to the point that they turn them away, refer them to the Humane Society where they will happily euthanize any pit bull they get their hands on. Excuse me for belaboring to point, but really, dogs (this site, anyway) Worse than arguing about calibers; seem to be just about the ultimate emotional issue?
Okay, I'm outta here. LB
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 19, 2014, 12:33 PM:
I've got a lot going on right now.
I might be letting my emotions get the better of me.
[ April 19, 2014, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Duckdog ]
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on April 19, 2014, 03:09 PM:
quote:
"He was attacked!" Nice try, Barney. Andy better take your bullet again.
Doesn't this seem typical now days, lie to the public, justify your fuckup, bad judgement call, whatever it is called.
Sounds like a typical lying POS politician.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 19, 2014, 06:16 PM:
How's your daughter feeling these days Kevin ?
Haven't been to NPHA in a spell. Not sure why ? I hope all is good.
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 19, 2014, 06:53 PM:
Not good...
Shoot me your email and I'll fill you in.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on April 19, 2014, 07:55 PM:
Sorry to hear that.
My email is shugy01@cableone.net
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 20, 2014, 07:32 AM:
Very sorry to hear that Kevin. Thinking my best thoughts...
- DAA
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on April 20, 2014, 07:03 PM:
trapper's got an itch to scratch. Probly close to his anus. The reality is certain dogs have been bred for certain roles.
You can't get a Chihuahua to herd cattle, and you can't get a pit bull to be a reliable family guardian.
Those are the facts. I suggest that trapper should live his life in close proximity to pit bulls. He should dedicate his family to those pit bulls. He should put his son and his daughter in trust with all pit bulls. Let his children be licked in the face by pit bulls because breeding ain't got nothing to do with it. They are a gentile breed. After all, pit bulls are a product of breeding, right? And they only seek to lick children's faces with love.....right?
Geezus Crist, trapper, pit bulls are bread to be killers. Are you a fucking idiot like the Mexicans or what?
[ April 20, 2014, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 21, 2014, 03:40 AM:
Frank, that ain't fair, man...
You're about as open minded as a stopped up shower drain.
There are LOTs of breeds that were "bread" to be killers.
Coon hounds are some killin' SOBs!
Terriers, too. Bred for centuries to be 'ratters'. They fuckin' love to kill shit!
Coursing dogs (greyhounds, salukis, Borzoi etc.) bred to run down & kill game.
Your argument is legless.
And trapper is about a cool a dude as you'd ever wanna know. And seeing how his line of work revolves around working dogs, I certainly value his input on the subject. Kinda like asking Dave about wildcats, or Mr. Vic, Tom, or Mike about handguns, Ryan knows dogs. Just sayin'...
Leonard, I agree. Dog debates will get the emotions runnin' high. Makes it easy to go on TILT
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on April 21, 2014, 05:44 AM:
quote:
Are you a fucking idiot like the Mexicans or what?
Frank, given some of the mindless bullshit drivel I have seen you post in the past, the same question could be asked of you. I always chalked it up to geriatric dementia, but my bet is you have always been a moron....err I mean a 'fucking' moron.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 21, 2014, 07:08 AM:
Without "defending" Frank, I think the argument is a bit disingenuous that greyhounds and terriers and also "killers". I guess any dog, being a carnivore, could be guilty of killing something even if it is a rat.
I conveniently put pitbulls in a different much narrower category; they are "big game" killers, dogs, children and old ladies. Sorry.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on April 21, 2014, 10:45 AM:
I have seen Trappers catch dog Ol barry the pit and his young son does get around him all the time. If he wasnt safe, I am sure Ryan would have fed him to the worms long ago.
Frank can't argue with you about pits, I have never owned one or seen the need for one. But I will tell you your full of shit about Ryan.
Kelly
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on April 21, 2014, 03:15 PM:
Two of my meatheads, from back in the day
Both were rock solid people loving dogs. One staff, one pit, have tons of pics of both of em lovin' up kids...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 21, 2014, 05:14 PM:
<sigh> Apparently, Frank has stepped in shit. Again.
I've never known him to have a drinking problem, BUT he can permanently turn off the electricity in your house in less than 3, maybe 4 keystrokes, max! Apparently, all that power has gone to his head?
Good hunting. El Bee
PS Taught Edward Snowden everything he knows.
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on April 23, 2014, 04:56 PM:
well I see frank is back at it, frank I figure you are just like the democrats, if you don't like it or are scared of it you want everyone else to be the same instead of trying to learn something about it.
I do live in close proximity to bulldogs, first pen in my kennel has one in it, will be there till he dies cause he's one of the top two catch dogs I have ever owned. the dog laying here in the floor is part bulldog, so yes I do live with them, no I don't dedicate my family to them, I dedicate my life and family to my Lord Jesus Chirt. and no I will not trust my son with all pits, or all of any breed of dogs, but I do trust every dog on this place with him because I raised them and hunt them everyday, I know these dogs, I trust them more them most of the people I know. they will also mind better them most of the kids I see, but I take better care of them then most people do their kids, the reason they mind is cause I make them, same reason they don't fight other dogs or people.
and yes each breed of dog is bred for something, if I wanted a lap dog I aint going to get a 60 pd dog, if I want a catch dog I don't want a 10 pd dog, but if you will spend the time with a dog you can get most to do about anything, they might not have the best build for the job but most can.
the meanest dog I have ever been around was a blue heeler, bar none the meanest, would bite people fight other dogs and kill them, just the way the guy trained him, he wasn't bred to be a killer but sure was the best one I ever seen.
my guess is you have never been around a bulldog much and the ones you have scare you so like a democrat you base your whole story on a tid bit of info and then act like you have a p.h.d in the subject, from reading your posts you must be a sour old boy to be around
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on April 23, 2014, 05:13 PM:
Nice reply, Ryan!
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on April 23, 2014, 06:07 PM:
I could post a bunch of pics of a Pit loving on kids and the kids loving on it. And a Rottweiler. And a Boxer.
But... Losing each hurt. Really hurt.
I'm not going to post pictures of animals that were part of the family to let the haters pick the fuck apart.
They were all good family dogs. My kids will start to cry talking about any of them.
Some people can't/won't understand. That's life. I'm not out to change anyone's mind about anything.
I have my own opinions and am content with that.
I do, of course, obviously, disagree with some of you in the strongest possible terms.
So be it...
- DAA
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on April 23, 2014, 06:27 PM:
We had several Boxers over the years, until we started getting Weimaraners. Both were very family loving and protective.
The other terrier I had was an Airedale. Another loving dog with a great temperament.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 23, 2014, 07:58 PM:
I agree. Nice reply Ryan.
Now, my grandson's bulldog, Stella seemed like a very good natured dog when she was staying here with me, last year.
I heard recently that she (apparently) killed two Chihuahuas that belonged to my son and was banished to Iowa. Maybe there is a message there, somewhere? Training, right?
But most people don't have the time or inclination to train these breeds. All they want and expect is a pet.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: PS if I ever get another dog, it will be an All American hound. Black and Tan, Blue Tick or another Red Bone. I think they are well behaved and especially good looking animals.
edit: they are good socially, and friendly with humans, at least any I have been around.
[ April 23, 2014, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Duckdog (Member # 3842) on April 23, 2014, 08:59 PM:
Here we go again...
Protect and serve...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/23/texas-robbery-victim-forced-kill-his-dog-with-his-bare-hands-after-cop-shoots-it-for-barking/
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