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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 30, 2011 06:30 PM
How much scope-X do you guys that night hunt use???
Was out last nite doing a little shooting and checking out my new lite and had my var. set on 4.5X and it seemed to be a bit much for shooting over snow...
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Leonard
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posted December 30, 2011 06:51 PM
There are a couple things I go by. One is that 12X is absolute maximum at night, and for the most part, 5 or 6 power is adequate on anything inside of 200 yards. That's where I keep my power ring set at, generally between 5 and 6, change it if you need to, but that's good for most night hunting situations.
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted December 30, 2011 07:00 PM
Ok . Thanks Leonard.
The scope I used last night had a 1" tube, going to try one of my 30mm tubes and see if its a little better or maybe I have to reposition the lite on the scope..
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R.Shaw
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posted December 30, 2011 09:26 PM
10 power day or night
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Leonard
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posted December 30, 2011 09:35 PM
Whatever floats your boat; but for me, to follow them as they are coming in, 10X would seem a bit too much, you can always jack it when you need it, but I like a little less while tracking the animal.
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted December 30, 2011 10:27 PM
I tested a few scopes I had on hand in the basement with the lites off. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
My 30 mm Loopy with var. reticle and good glass seemed to be much clearer and easey to look through with the lite on and the lower power also helped.. So I think I will use the loopy and the super sniper I have in 10X with 30 mm tube and see how they work outside...
With the new lite things just seem a little fuzzy at 125 yds. with filter or 200 with the burner on at the outer limits of the lite, not sure how the coyote will appear farther out through the scope.. I think if I can get them well inside the max range of the lite I maybe ok..
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JD
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posted December 30, 2011 10:53 PM
50mm variable set on about 7 works well for me at night when the burn light is on.
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Chris S
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posted December 30, 2011 11:11 PM
A red dot scope with zero magnification will work if you do your part, TA.
I've mentioned this before but maybe not here. Adding a laser to a night hunting setup, if you're going to use a scoped rifle, just makes sense. If you're gonna have coyotes possibly come in to 25-50 yards a laser would make aquiring your target much easier. Both eyes open, full field of view. What would be the down side?
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JD
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posted December 30, 2011 11:42 PM
Nevermind.....misread what you said.
[ December 30, 2011, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: JD ]
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Leonard
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posted December 31, 2011 12:27 PM
Well, the only downside to laser sights, at night is that the coyotes see it and react. Not always, but it happens. I would advise against it.
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted December 31, 2011 01:18 PM
The lazer sounds like a good idea for some but stuff like that canbe too much.. I like to keep my equipement simple and to a minimum on day or nite stands..
With the little bit of nite calling I've done the coyotes are pretty easey to spot over snow when they are at 150 yds or less so picking them up is'nt much of a problem for me.. Even in a black dirt field without snow they can be picked out at or around 100 yds..
I have some coyotes that come in vocal, no problem with them as I know were they are and how far..
The problem is with the quiet ones that walk in and not knowing where they are till the last minute and also the ones that stop or hang up just beyond my range of seeing them.. For these I don't think a lazer would be much good..
Right now we are dealing with global warming, NO SNOW!!!!!! It has'nt been this bad since the 80's.. The good side to it is it makes it easier to get to a stand and out farther from the road without makeing any noise and I can also sit much longer without getting cold..
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Leonard
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posted December 31, 2011 03:26 PM
With the laser, if you could turn it on, pointing directly at the animal, maybe that would work?
But, as so often happens, you turn it on and zip it around a little bit before bringing it up on the animal, and this is what he sees and this is why he jumps. Maybe if he was running away, but I just think it's an unwise solution.
Good hunting. LB
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posted December 31, 2011 03:40 PM
Eyes, pressure switch on laser, boom.
Any light is much more intense than a small red laser.
I'm not suggesting it be your ONLY aiming device, just one for those coyotes that are too close for your 9,000 power scope to acquire.
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Leonard
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posted December 31, 2011 03:42 PM
Yeah, well let us know how it works out for you?
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted December 31, 2011 03:51 PM
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But, as so often happens, you turn it on and zip it around a little bit before bringing it up on the animal, and this is what he sees and this is why he jumps.
Thats what happens when I try to use a lite over snow with or without the filter..
I don't know, maybe if I set up inside the CRP the coyotes would react differently than they do in the open..
I thought about the green lite thats out, you can see out to 600 yds with it but from what I was told it will also spook the coyotes on open ground...
The new lite I have has a pressure switch but you need to know were the coyote is before you turn it on or game is up and they bolt...
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Leonard
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posted December 31, 2011 04:31 PM
Tim, that's the way it has always been. You have to know how to work a light. Never swing that light in front of the animal. Always keep it over his head with his eyes just in the halo. And, slow movements! You cannot swing a light around without spooking a coyote. Way better to use a red filter. Yes, you can't pick them up in the scope until they get closer, but they will get closer under a slow moving red light. It can be done with a white light, but it takes a little experience to know exactly how to use it properly.
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted December 31, 2011 05:21 PM
Thanks for the tips Leonard...
Thats one of the problems here, not enough coyotes around to get much experience from to find out what or what dose'nt work as far as useing the lites goes..
But hey I got the full moon thing worked out..
Edit to add. Oh it just clicked here and now I remember...
What you said about useing the edge of the lite to pick up the eyes.. When I hunted coon and had them treed I had to do the same with the lite or they put there head down or ducked behind a branch...
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Leonard
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posted December 31, 2011 05:41 PM
Minneesota, slow learners, but lovable. Seems like every one of 'em has a beard, too? Must be to protect from the north wind?
Good hunting. LB
HAPPY NEW YEAR
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TA17Rem
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posted December 31, 2011 06:11 PM
Not a slow learner, just forgetfull.. Been getting a little older myself...
I got tired of being carded everytime I bought smokes out of town without haveing a beard..
Happy New year back at you....
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