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Leonard
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Icon 6 posted October 02, 2020 01:22 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I hope some of you have seen the various Progressive Insurance ads on TV?

The one that I don't GET, is the several featuring a half black man and the lower half is a motorcycle. WTF? I guess it's a Mantour, like a Greek Mythology figure that is half man and the lower half is a Bull.

What the hell is the point of this ad, besides the black dude demonstrating a very arrogant attitude about something?

What is the message of this commercial? All of them? I'm awake at night worried about it! ko ko must know something? What am I supposed to deduce from a half black/motorcycle? A very tame motorcycle, BTW.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2020 02:07 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Being a descendent of the Norse Ullr, Greek Mythology isn't my strong suit, but;
The Minotaur had the head & tail of a bull and the body of a man.
The Centaur had a man upper and a lower horse.
If you are actually seeing either of these beings, it's a sign that you didn't let the wine ferment long enough before drinking.
The ads that you are seeing on TV are a sign from the Gods to shut the TV off and go DO SOMETHING !!!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2020 03:34 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
OMG! you said it, and I just did it! That's amazing. But, come on! what's the point of that stupid commercial? Nothing about it makes sense to me? You gotta give me more than that! See my rebuttal to your recommendations re: firearms? Buckets of 38Special "reloads"? I'm guessing you do not handload, correct? Not important. Do you do some of the cooking, or depend on Miss Cynthia?

I used to work with a Russian, very competent engineer and a middle aged bachelor, and this was when I was a lot younger than middle aged. He lived in Whittier and did not have a stove in his kitchen. I believe he took his meals at restaurants, 100%. Also a chess master, could play 3 games in a 30 minute lunch break at work. He won at least 2 of the three. Speed chess is kinda different; him always yelling: "MOVE" "MOVE"!

Where was I going with that? I'm forced to cook for myself. But had a Stouffer's frozen entree last night. One of my specialities is innovative, sorta. Instead of the common Grilled Ham & Cheese, I make a grilled bacon (crisp) and cheese sandwich. The bacon and cheese is so much better than ham, there is no argument. On Russian Rye is the preferred bread, BTW. Speaking of sandwiches, and that's not all I do, let me tell you how to spruce up a tunafish sandwich. Put a layer of Lay's potato chips over the tuna before you cover it. If you try it, like black....you won't go back! (just kidding) I wouldn't know, anyway?

Next week we will talk about PAN FRYING a prime ribeye. Don't miss it!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2020 04:08 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I've done a bit of crude reloading, the Lee kit where you use a plastic hammer a lot and a powder scoop. Slow but works well for .38 Special semi-wadcutters. Easier to just buy the reloads at a gun show by the pound.
I build & rebuild my own arrows though. Haven't shot a store bought arrow in over 50 years.
And yeah, I can cook.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2020 05:20 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That is actually where I started, as well. The first credit account I ever had was Sears Roebuck, and the wife and I had an agreement, She got the sewing machine and the sofa and I got the 270 Winchester. This was 1966 and whatever a box of 130 grain spitzers cost, I only had a couple boxes and bought a Lee Loader at the Whitefront store and reloaded those 40 cases for quite a while. At the time, 4831 was less than two bucks a pound and primers were something like 50 cents per 100. When I sold the gun, the Lee Loader went with it because I had not used it since purchasing a press. Kinda wish I still had both of them, but I've never owned a 270 since then.

Ha! but I had dies and loaned them to the guy that bought the rifle. Boy was that a mistake! When I got the dies back, they were all boogered up with pipe wrench marks and unusable, and I still have them as a memento. DO NOT LOAN RELOADING STUFF! PERIOD!

Good hunting. El Bee

PS actually, reloading something like 38 special is a very good use for a Lee Loader and something like 270 Win. is not, because of the case stretching and I didn't own a neck trimmer at the time. The cartridge is too high pressure, maybe your 30-30 would be okay? But using a scoop with that much powder is not conducive to accuracy!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2020 06:14 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
From what I gather talking to a couple of the vendors, they bought a high tech, wiz-bang, progressive, do all reloading set-up. They then buy components in bulk at a discount and spend a couple of afternoons cranking out rounds like the .38 Special semi-wadcutter 'by the bucket full'.
They then bag them up, take them to the gun show and spend the week-end chatting with like minded folks and selling enough to cover their own expenses at decent prices. Everybody wins.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2020 07:05 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, since you bring it up, I must squash this fallacy for the two dozenth time, or so.

You will almost never save any money handloading. This is my preferred word because "reloading" conveys a slipshod action and to be truthful, sometimes, that's just what it is. But, precision handloading is another thing entirely. There is nothing second rate about it, but it is NOT economical. By the time you buy all the gear needed to craft precision ammo, you have so much invested in "plant" that you will most likely never break even....especially since precision handloading is not a high volume activity, excepting live colony squirrels and prairie dogs, and then it's more like target shooting.

Whatever a Square Deal Dillon costs, you had better be shooting a lot to start it paying for itself. Even now, take a competitive shooter like Victor with TWO Dillons, (which is impressive) I'm betting at least one of them is gathering dust, these days. So, maybe those rigs have already paid for themselves, but this is a one in 100 situation.

For the rest of us, handloading is the seeking of accuracy rather than economy. It's a matter of having fireformed your brass in your chamber, (among other considerations) which requires a detailed explanation, but maybe take my word for it would suffice? It's just really hard to save money by "reloading".

I have a 4 die set of 40S&W that cost around $80. I'm almost certain I won't ever break even. (considering the volume I shoot)

I could go on but I've already beat it to death.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2020 07:44 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
True and true again that there is a huge difference between fine tuning a custom handload for a specific rifle & purpose or cranking out plinking rounds for .38 or 9mm.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2020 12:16 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Then again, take it a step further and do your casual plinking with a proper tool, a 22 rimfire.

But, you know what? Call this a confession, if you like, but I have never been a fan of this so called "Plinking" no matter with what. Shooting targets is about as casual I get with a firearm. Shooting "cans" as the politically incorrect joke goes; Africans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans is against the law in most states.

But there are people that get a thrill up their leg just pulling the trigger, rocks, beer cans, road signs etc. I shot a can with a 500S&W one time, actually hit it too! Then, I quit while I was ahead. Different strokes for different folks works for me.

One time, I hit a cantaloupe size rock with my Combat Commander at a range very close to 100 yards. THEN, I was smart enough to quit, rather than demonstrate how lucky the first shot was by missing that rock by 5 feet or so with the next round. Hell, I did something similar with my little Browning while kicking out jackrabbits with a couple of old High school chums. I made an incredible shot on a big jack that was in high gear and it flipped him in a cartwheel, end over end and I acted like it was routine. This lead to a discussion, all good natured, but as a sort of challenge that I could never do that again, if my life depended on it, and I was pretty sure I couldn't, but one thing lead to another and a can was set up on a pretty tall rock and it could have been a hundred yards or so, and beyond my abilities, offhand. So, (gulp) I knew there was a dollar riding on this and what could I do? So, I cheated! I deliberately shot under the can at the sloped face of the rock and it was so far away that nobody could tell that it was a ricochet that sent the can flying, and I earned that buck! Never give a sucker an even break!

Good hunting. El Bee

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