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Topic: And people wonder why I'm such a prick
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted July 06, 2015 11:53 AM
That title was not a softball for some of you to hit out of the park. Just establishing that there are a lot of local folks who wonder why I have such a red ass for law enforcement and the courts anymore. F-ing HYPOCRITES!
My son was recently arrested for three crimes that the local prosecutor is having a hard time getting any evidence against him. Possession of drugs, and possession of paraphernalia are the two biggies. Turns out he didn't have anything on his person and two piss tests they have administered have both come back cleaner than a goddamned whistle because he hasn't used anything, pot and alcohol included for over a year.
Oops.
Anyway, he had a "status hearing" today in District Court. Got there early - to get the best seats. Only people in the courtroom are my son and me, the County Attorney, his Assistant County Attorney (we use County Attorneys here in flyover country rather than fancy, shmancy District Attorneys), and a defense lawyer I didn't know. The female Assistant CA is telling everyone of the great time they had over the July 4 weekend where she and a bunch of friends went "badger hunting" by pouring 5-gallon buckets of water down badger holes in an alfalfa field and in a cornfield in an attempt to "flush them out" so they could "get a badger".
If I'd had my phone, I'd have recorded the whole thing and turned it over to the state of Kansas, but they don't allow phones in the courtroom.
I can guarantee you that this gal does not have a furharvesting license. Nor is she a licensed Nuisance Control Agent, licensed by the state. It was obvious that she was totally unaware that badgers are a furbearer in Kansas and that they are in season from mid-November to the end of February and that it is expressly illegal to alter, damage or destroy a den or den structure in any way, as well as expressly illegal to harass any wild animal while in its den or other den structure.
While I'm sitting there, this prosecutor happily and freely admits to violating at least three Kansas laws and the CA and other lawyer just laughed along.
If you or I were to get caught doing any of those things, and pleaded "not guilty" because we were unaware that such acts were illegal, we would be lectured about how "ignorance of the law is no excuse."
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booger
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posted July 06, 2015 12:08 PM
Lance,
I would still give the local game warden a heads up on that...that is just rediculous! No different than shooting a bobcat out of season.
What weasels!
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Lone Howl
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posted July 06, 2015 02:57 PM
Yep, screw em...gotta be a 'hotline" to call for game violations..anonymously? Drop a dime, just for the hell of it.
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Leonard
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posted July 07, 2015 06:52 AM
On the subject of faith and trust in your offspring:
Used to be a family that lived on the block name of Richardson. They went somewhere and asked my son to watch the house when they were gone.
My son said some drunk or space cadet came in the house and they had a hell of a time getting him out of there.
Bob Richardson, former Marine, who ran a tight ship, would not let the girls eat or drink anything upon going to bed.
One time, Nanc was over there visiting. Suddenly, Bonnie realized that Bob was due to arrive very shortly, so she panicked and stuffed all the laundry that needed ironing, into a closet. Nanc came home stupefied.
Since they all lived there for about 25 years, it seemed like ol' Bob had become kind of surly, if not completely unfriendly. Bob, Cindy and Bonnie, all dead, only Heidi, youngest daughter survives and lives up in Ashland.
Not very long ago, and since enough time has passed that it does not matter(?) my son mentioned something about that time when he was a teenager and was watching the Richardson's place, many years ago. Yuck yuck, and him and friends had a party and drinking in the house, kind of trashed it, threw up in one of the toilets, and being kids and irresponsible, didn't do a lot of cleanup.
So, my son knew why Bob was pissed, but we never did, believing exactly the weird story about some stranger. But, since kids will be kids, my kid thought it was kind of humorous, and only brought it up when we heard the news of Bob's passing, up in Oregon.
Me? Hard to describe my reaction, but I didn't say much, at the time. I'm sure the look on my face said I was gobsmacked, if anybody might have been so observant.
Like, for instance, we found out later, our son and daughter had a big party while we were on a cruise. Police even showed up, asking things be toned down. Kids, generally good kids, still do stuff they don't want parents to know about.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted July 07, 2015 06:42 PM
Believe me, Leonard. I know my son is no angel by any means. I told him once that the only thing he seemed to be good at was setting a bad example. Having said that, (and he laughed, too, by the way), he has been completely clean the past six months to a year. Three weeks in jail a year ago cured him of any delusions that the low road was the place to be. I've dragged my ass out of bed many, man, many nights over the past year to see how he's doing when he stops by. He lives with his girlfriend and her family here in town but still uses us for laundry and he'd rather shower and stuff here. So, I usually see him almost every day, and when I do, I get right in his face. Smelling, looking, assessing his mannerisms. There are ways to tell if a person is using and he has been clean as a whistle every single time. I've seen nothing to concern me. Nothing at all, and after all he's put us through, I'd be more likely to assume he's toasted than sober most days. It will be a damned long time before I trust him again.
The problem the county has is that they jailed him for three days without bond. When he finally got in front of the judge, he went through his last year of working, paying his fines and staying out of trouble and he himself said that something seemed to be amiss. Reduced his bond and released him OR. Assigned him to a parole officer who has tested him twice for drugs. Clean as a whistle both times. They're scratching their heads. One of the local LEO's told me he was arrested because he was there when they executed the search warrant. I told him that wrong place/ wrong time is not a crime in Kansas or anywhere else. He said he was also arrested because he was a frequent visitor there and the owner was a known drug dealer. I told him it might be bad judgment on my son's part but they have no evidence he was using drugs and that it isn't a crime to know a guy who sells drugs. The guy says he had paraphernalia. I asked where. He said it was on the sofa next to him and on the coffee table in front of him. I asked him if they saw him with it on him and he said no. I told him that it isn't a crime to visit the domicile of a drug dealer unless you're buying or using drugs and they have no evidence that he had ever done either.
I have laid the law down to my son. He knows that if he ever gets caught with drugs or convicted of a drug offense, all deals for his future with me are off. No support. No help. No inheritance. No mention of him in our wills. He knows I'm serious as hell about this. And he knows not to fuck with me or call my bluff on it.
The other night, he called me as I was getting into bed. One of the guys who had been buying his stuff from that dealer saw my son sitting outside of a local club where he was waiting for a friend of his to come out so he could give her a ride home. The guy went to him, shoved him into his car trying to provoke him into a fight, and then told him to leave and that he would find him and kick his ass. He wanted to know what he should do to keep this bastard away from him. I told him to sit tight. I called the PD and told the dispatch that we needed an officer at such and such address for a report of criminal threat, battery and intimidation of a witness. The dispatcher was being difficult with me wanting to know why he wasn't calling. (He had to give his GF back her phone and his is locked up in an evidence cabinet and thus had no way to call). She told me she didn't have an officer available but she would send one over when they "had a chance". I told her fine, under the law I have the right to defend my loved ones so I'm gonna grab one of my guns and head down there to stand by with him in case the guy comes over there to cause problems, until they have a chance to get an officer there. Needless to say, the officer beat me to the scene. Hmmph. You probably wouldn't try that in California, but this is Kansas. We don't know any better. BTW, I left the gun in the truck and the officer was very nice to me.
Bottom line: They arrested my boy for probable cause which turned out to be no pc at all. They jailed him for three days without bond sequel to a questionable arrest and now they're trying to figure out a way to weasel out of the tight spot they got themselves into knowing I'm the kind of guy that will have his back. This County Attorney has had a hard on for my boy since he was a little reprobate at 16 - 8 years ago - and this stuff from yesterday was like a gift from God falling into my lap. Now the question is what to do with it. Yeah, I could turn the lady in, and piss the guy off and he'll take it out on my son. The local game warden still has to work with this prosecutor, so right now, I plan to sit on this and see how things flesh out. If the CA goes all ape shit on my boy, I'll just make contact with the Regional Supervisor for the law enforcement division for KDWPT in Topeka and ask an out of county Conservation Officer be assigned the investigation so as to prevent our local guy from having to do the follow up himself, then consider filing a complaint and request for investigation with the Kansas Office of the Disciplanary Administrator, the state's watchdog agency for attorneys, to make sure no one is obstructing the investigation. It's all just a game to them. I can play, too.
[ July 07, 2015, 06:47 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
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Leonard
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posted July 08, 2015 06:35 AM
Sounds like "KEEPING UP WITH THE HOMANS"?
But seriously. It wouldn't even solve problems to move, those arrest records never expire, unless a man keeps his nose ultra clean. Still, that town is never going to give in and the boy needs a life changing decision to escape the drama. You are known by your friends, in spite of your comments. He needs to stay the fuck away from druggies, that's pretty basic.
Good hunting. El Bee
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knockemdown
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posted July 08, 2015 07:12 AM
Another way to illustrate what Leonard mentioned about friends...
"if ya roll with pigs, you're gonna get muddy"
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted July 09, 2015 06:03 PM
Oh, I've preached to him the old, "Show me your friends, I'll show you your future", and "you will come to be known by those with whom you associate". He seems to prefer to plow right through the stumps in life, but he's learning. Very,....... very,........ very slowly. LOL
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