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Leonard
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Icon 2 posted February 08, 2010 10:51 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What do you want to know about predators and hunting them?

Ask here and we will attempt to solve all of it, including any misinformation you have read on PMS.

If you are a member, you are probably already an expert in some aspect of this sport, so don't be afraid to get your lunch handed to you. Happens to everybody.

I'm wondering what's the best sound? Super chicken, maybe? Anybody have an opinion? I usually have terrible luck starting an entertaining thread. [Frown] Is it because I know too much or not enough?

Good hunting. LB

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 10:53 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Someone writes:

I'm wondering if I can make a set while standing up?
Barry

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 10:57 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
reply: Barry, that's easy! I think you have answered your own question. Is "set" in your lexicon, like set down? (sic)

Can we have a serious question, please!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 11:00 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
another bright eyed newbee asks; pauses or continuous sound?

Answer? Come on, this is serious!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 11:06 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have been known to play continuous sound while driving and while hunting or even relieving myself. Continuous as in all the time, especially if it's windy. After a while, you can hear it in your head while sleeping. Continuous sound works for me.

Next question.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 11:08 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hello? anybody out there? You can't know everything? How can we help you?

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 11:36 AM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard....whats the best camo? Also, will my camo choice effect the 'fur friendliness' of my bullet?

Maintain

P.S. You must have some retainer left with your attorney....targeting PM like this

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Lonny
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 11:42 AM      Profile for Lonny           Edit/Delete Post 
Dear panel of experts,

I was just wondering where the best place to hunt yotes in Utah is?

You don't have to give me your honey-holes, just a some places where a guy can bust a few dawgs and have a good day without getting too far off the pavement. If anybody is heading out this weekend, I'll tag along. My truck is down right now and I'm a little short on cash, so you'll have to drive. I can call'em pretty good though and I like to talk, so it should be a good time. Who knows, maybe you can learn something along the way?

PM me your offers and directions. Just make sure they are good directions. I don't wanna get lost.

This panel thing is great idea.
[Smile] [Smile]

(In all seriousness, I've seen post's akin to this from people searching for hunting spots in Utah dozens of times. Probably more than all the other states combined.)

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:10 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
You NAILED that sucker Lonny!

I've seen THAT post. Almost word for word. TOO MANY TIMES!

...UTAH...don't want your honey hole...UTAH...just a good area to go...UTAH...without going too far...UTAH...would love to tag along with you...UTAH...could you show me on a map...UTAH...

The one that KILLS me though, and I used to get this in email a lot, is how they play the "somewhere to take my SON" card. I automatically brand you an ass hat douche bag for life if you email me out of the clear blue sky asking for a good place to go hunt coyotes, and then throw in the "just need a good place to TAKE MY SON" card for sympathy. I've gotten that one so many times I've developed a flinch for it...

- DAA

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:14 PM      Profile for R.Shaw           Edit/Delete Post 
I have seen several pictures of black coyotes. If it doesn't have a collar, it is a coyote...right?

Also,urgent help needed for this one. I own 5 acres behind my house and have a mountain lion living there. I have already located the den [confirmed by huffing] and was wondering should I just sit and wait for it to come out or build a bait pile?

Randy

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:17 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That's why they all drive to Nevada, Lonny. Utah has a scorched earth hunting policy. That country should hold a lot more coyotes than it does. Go figure.

Best bet extreme northwest or extreme southwest. No promises, good luck. Write when you can, and stay away from the polygamists, and don't borrow a cup of sugar from them, either.

Good hunting. LB

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:20 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
AR, Those black dogs have been proved to have wolf DNA.

edit: by the way, if you do your part, a 22 rimfire is all you need to kill any coyote that ever lived, black or otherwise.

Good hunting. LB

[ February 08, 2010, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:23 PM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
Excellent question Randy but, the question that needs to be answered is if the said lion is one of the notorious black ones? This could change things drastically.

Maintain

P.S. Don't forget your scent lock while putting out the bait pile.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:32 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
If it's five acres or less, a tethered lamb works the best. The cougar will show up before midnight, in most cases. Point your truck's headlights at the lamb, get close but don't leave the engine running the whole time, just enough to keep the cab warm. Shoot off the door sill, if legal.

Good luck, LB

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 12:35 PM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Whats the best caliber for a calling rifle? I like to call em close, but also be able to hit em runnin at 600 yards if one of my buds runs one out to me.

Also, I dont wanna tear up the hide. Thanks in advance.

PS. Do know a good place I can take my son calling in Utah?

[ February 08, 2010, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: Andy L ]

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What is the best sound?

Well now, it is without a doubt the scream Barry makes when his wife bitch slaps him for looking at the butt of another guy.

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Lonny
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Icon 10 posted February 08, 2010 12:58 PM      Profile for Lonny           Edit/Delete Post 
So far not a single offer or really good directions to some yote spots... [Confused]

I'm gettin' the feeling you guy's don't want to help a new guy out! We as hunter's need to stick together and help each other. The anti's want to divide us so they can outlaw hunting.

We must stick together!

Anybody have a fur-friendly .300 Mag load for fox and bobcat?

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 01:14 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Lonny;
This is secret information, not to be shared with ANYONE.

The best place to hunt fur in Utah is Wells Nev. at a ranch called The Hacienda. There is an access fee, but it must be worth it; lots of Utah plates on the vehicles every week-end.

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...............Good place to take the son, too!!!!! He could score on his first......'fur'.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 01:25 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Where's the guys back east that really need the answers? TA, Cdog?

The best machine for the money is the tried and true Johnny Stewart 512. The digital fad is just that, over rated, way too expensive and a good hand call works just as well, if you do your part.

It's good to know that all those Utah hunters that contact me, that they take my advice and write to DAA for hot spots close to town, where they can take their son.

Good hunting. LB

koko, is that the place with the ten foot purple privacy fence at the end of the culdesac?

[ February 08, 2010, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 01:58 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"It's good to know that all those Utah hunters that contact me, that they take my advice and write to DAA for hot spots close to town, where they can take their son."
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They can always call Vic, or maybe John-Henry. There are two or three coyotes behind every cactus down there.

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 02:22 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
What about the ole' pet load thread ?

"Hey guys I just started reloading" My gun is a Stevens 200 chambered in 223..Hopin' to smack a few "Yotes" with it.

I'm looking for a "fur friendly" accurate load,any thoughts..
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Then comes along a standard reply.

Hey welcome aboard ! Mine likes 26.2 of Varget with a CCI 400 along with a 50gr V-Max.
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Then yet another,mine like's a 50gr Blitz-King along with a dose of 26.8 of W-748 and a Winchester Small Rifle Primer.
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Then one more,hey with mine,I load 24.2 of Benchmark and a 55gr B-tip along with a Federal 205..
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Response..
What a great site ! keep the barrel warm dudes !

[ February 08, 2010, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

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Icon 14 posted February 08, 2010 02:23 PM      Profile for Crow Woman   Email Crow Woman         Edit/Delete Post 
wow... an advice column!!! ok

First question, if you will please: What is the best brand of lipstick to purchase that doesn't come off on my calls?

Second question: Does Pink Camo really blend in the desert?

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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 03:44 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"First question, if you will please: What is the best brand of lipstick to purchase that doesn't come off on my calls?"
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I will ask one of my old girl friends, and get right back to ya.

"Second question: Does Pink Camo really blend in the desert?"
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Heck yes Crow Woman, you can just wear your standard underwear when you call critters. Saves money too.

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Lonny
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Icon 1 posted February 08, 2010 03:55 PM      Profile for Lonny           Edit/Delete Post 
Finally some solid information... Thanks Koko. The rest of these guy's are pretty tight-lipped when it comes to helping a brother out.

United we stand, divided we fall!

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