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Leonard
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Icon 2 posted January 17, 2026 08:56 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7FrBwhcoe8

I said before that I couldn’t really determine what exactly happened when Rene Good was killed. I never heard of Liz Wheeler befoew, but she shows parts that make it clear that the agent was hit by her car. If you are pressed for time I think if you watch between 10 and 20 minutes, she shows a clear picture of what all the networks have deliberately made the event look very doubtful by selectively editing. You be the judge.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted January 17, 2026 11:25 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah that pretty common vid. we been seeing but the last vid. out is from body cam. of the agent who fired shots. Just seen it tonight. Agent clearly says in a very excited manner whoa" whoa" whoa" and then he fired off a few shots. You can hear and feel the gravity in his voice. Agents said four times get out of car and her husband tells her to just go baby go.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted January 18, 2026 06:42 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
"...... her husband tells her to go baby go"

Seems to my own simple self that the 'husband' should be charged with something more serious than just giving bad advice.

Somewhere, the Founding Fathers gotta be asking themselves; "We risked everything for THIS shit ???"

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TA17Rem
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Icon 1 posted January 18, 2026 08:50 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, not sure what's going to happen with "it" Maybe off to court at later date when smoke clears.

Ice took another major player off the streets; this guy had like 17 convictions over his head.

The head ICE agent gave a speech and said he wanted to make two things perfectly clear. They after illegals and criminals and won't stop till they gone' Too many lazy DA or loopholes in our system so many have been let go or just disappeared and jumped bail. Ice is on hunt for them.
Sounds like Chicago is next on the list.

Edit to add a American terrorist has been removed from the streets as well. I think in Florida.
The guy was manufacturing a explosive similar to C-4, had truckloads of the stuff in his factory.
Most of his sales was overseas to some of the terr. countries. Sales was kind of a 2- or 3-party deal to help hide what he was selling. The explosive stuff was used for IUD roadside bombs.

[ January 18, 2026, 09:01 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted January 18, 2026 08:57 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Is it unreasonable to expect that when those nice folks at ICE are involved, the criminal charges should be bumped up to the FEDERAL level ????

That would bypass all of those liberal D.A.s & petty judges.

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Icon 1 posted January 18, 2026 09:02 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
I think many of charges are at federal level.

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Icon 1 posted January 18, 2026 08:33 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
https://www.facebook.com/reel/822875037307969

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted January 19, 2026 10:11 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Oops, that was a facebook link, Timmy. I never had a facebook account. Sorry!

Good hunting. El Bee

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TA17Rem
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Icon 1 posted January 19, 2026 10:34 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
yep, Koko can watch it and tell you all about it..

AS for Koko he not doing his job guarding border and he let some bad guys in. ICE has trucks and equipment being shipped to Phoenix AZ. sometime. Get your phone out Koko.

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Icon 1 posted January 19, 2026 12:15 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
What's a 'Facebook' ????
Is that like a 'little black book' of phone numbers only photos of the hookers, instead ????? [Confused]

Hopefully, just the rumor of ICE will cause some to self-deport. But hey, if they need a quiet place to camp I've got some room on my property.

Not sure what good getting my flip phone out would do. It's in the truck, shut off 'til I need it.

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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 08:57 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Ok ............ With massive physical gyrations and gnashing of tusks I was able to access the video.

Hard to argue with the points that he makes. Seems like a decent fellow to sit around the (real) campfire with and solve the world's problems.
However;
When you take the podium dressed like an Inspector Gadget prepper, you tend to lose a bit of creditability because your 'look' detracts from your words.
Just sayn'

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 09:11 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Good Morning, Peanut Gallery! Everything copacetic?

Regarding what ko ko just wrote; I’m about halfway immersed in smartphone, so I can very easily leave my phone in the center console of my vehicle and miss 6 or 8 robo calls. It’s an awkward device for me and yet it can do amazing stuff that I’m not competent in completing such as calling for an Uber. I’ve rode in one a few times but in every case, my daughter handled the details. One of these days I might need to download the AP, whatever that is?

But let me opine of Timmy browbeating ko ko for not being as diligent guarding the border as HE would like! First of all, he must be 60-70 miles north of the border, in a quaint, but dinky little berg just big enough to have a Walmart, and the Mormon Mafia runs everything except ko ko’s ranch on the outskirts, on a dead end road, to boot.

So, he’s getting up there, like the rest of us-cut him a little slack, please! And another thing, this berg we speak of, Saffard, (without the “t”) just happens to be the only town in Arizona that I have not stepped foot in! For some unknown reason, I just never got up there, and it is out of the way, since all Interstate traffic flows 36 miles south along I-10 in the direction of El Paso, another God Forsaken poop hole if there ever was one! His closest neighbor is Vic, who is back where he started, within walking distance of the southern border. Someday, I’d like to know just how that transpired?

That’s all I got right now. Sorry for rambling.
Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 09:41 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I have had zero illegals cross my property ..... ever !!!

I do see a Hispanic gentleman out in the wash behind me now & then working his horse. This guy is a pleasure to watch as he puts the horse thru it's paces. It's like horse & rider are one.
Down here, the phrase "He rides like a Mexican" is not a slur but rather, high praise.

We are not anti-Hispanic.
We are not anti-migrant.
We ARE anti-ILLEGAL migrant.

............ and I like my little wide spot in the road of a town.

Tim seems like a decent enough guy. We agree on a lot of things. ......... He's just wrong about wolves. Other than that one mental malfunction, he's ok. [Razz]

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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 03:34 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Well thanks Koko I'll agree to that..

It's just not about wolves with me, it's about all wildlife, always been that way and kind of how I was brought up. They have a right to exist and I don't have any problems about hunting them, but when numbers run short it's time to do something about it, they have a right to exist. I lived through some of those bad years when we didn't have this critter or that one and then people got together and did something about it.
Watching a bald eagle swoop down on the ice and grabbing a mallard duck or goose or watch them in flight during mating to me was cool. 20 years ago you never see that here. Never seen sand hill cranes till few years back, kind of a awesome and neat bird.

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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 03:49 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well….everybody has a right to an opinion. Regarding wolves, there are several points of view. You have the Dreamers, all God’s creatures belong and have their place. Wolves aren’t bad, they are just misunderstood. A NOBLE CREATURE! Part of Nature’s plan, essential for the Cosmic Universe to function, all parts of the engine providing and supporting the others in perfect harmony….It’s the real thing, Coke is!

Where was I? Okay, that’s the Fucking Dreamers. Then you have practical, normal, intelligent people that understand the concept.Nothing against Flies, but they belong outdoors. Wolves do fine in Canada and Alaska, where there is not much civilization. Understand? This is basic. No more Wolves and Buffalo in the Wild and Wooly West!

So, the Wolf does extremely well up in the Tundra. As much as Dreamers would like it, wolves do not get along with our “Managed” remote parts of the lower 48. They were systematically eradicated from developed country, cities, ranch land, farms etc. They were eliminated because intelligent, practical people understood that wolves do not fit in with farms, cattle ranches and sheep and the main thing is, they weren’t in Yellowstone, in the first place! The bunny huggers are pissing on your leg and telling you it’s raining!

Sensible people eliminated wolves from places where they were a problem. Period. Now we have our Dreamers that have watched too much Disney, and think there is no good reason why man and the wolf cannot CO-EXIST. They were here first! That kind of ignorant philosophy. All it takes is intelligent game management; say the Dreamers. We have it all figured out, and besides, they have just as much right as we do. They alway forget that animals do not have rights. Humans have rights. Citizens have rights. Animals, including wolves, do not have any rights. So let the Bunnyhuggers chew on that little nugget for a while….and stay out of things that you don’t understand. Go advocate for Polar Bears, whales and Harp Seals. When you get that sorted out, then you can raise hell about the WOLF.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ January 20, 2026, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted January 20, 2026 08:35 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Coyotes in western S.D. are feared by some ranchers because they don't understand them and then in fear, they might lose a calf. Some ranchers see one coyote as a danger. Wildlife service at times portray them as being bad for one reason, to keep their trappers working even if it's just a coyote just being there.
Money comes to mind. I think Scott mentioned something like this long ago and what he was against, basically forcing a rancher to keep their company on the pay books when they were not needed.



A rancher worried about losing one or two cows we call them border line ranchers, they can't afford to lose two then best get out of ranching while they can as they not going to make it if things are that tight.

I remembered DAA bitching about mules and wild horses. Tracking up the land and eating everything. depends what mule is use to but they also eat vegetation a cow wouldn't touch, keeps the weeds down. But what really bothered him about them was areas was closed down to off road travel because it also damaged the land. Don't believe me then google maps for his area and look at areal views of the land, fucken two tracks everywhere

I hunted ranches for almost 20 years in S.D. and would talk to ranchers about their coyotes and get it all firsthand from their mouth.
Some didn't want to risk the chance and went into panic mode thus being nervous and not feeling right about one being around even though it caused no problems. Next group of ranchers talked to say the coyotes around there ranch not being a problem but go kill them anyway it didn't matter to them.
A few ranchers worried more about the coyotes killing the deer and not so much worried about their cattle.
Few ranchers just said leave them be they not a problem around their ranch.
In 15 years of ranching old Johny lost one calf that could have been still born or not, but coyote ate it anyway, so he has a lifelong vengeance against them and shoots anytime he see's one.

I can't find it at moment but have a few mag. with articles of too many Elk destroying ranches by eating all the hay they put up or corn piles and this took place back when wolves were first introduced in Montana and Wyoming and yellow stone.

Ok the big question you tell me. We remove all the wolves from all western states, scorched earth if you will. Then what? When elk heards grow to a size that the land can no longer support them and not enough hunters can't fill their tags but yet the elk numbers are too high and same with deer populations what's the next step? Just shoot them and leave lay? Good way to increase the coyote numbers by doing so.
Back in the day when Elk numbers was too high and eating ranchers crops that's what the ranchers did, they just shoot dam elk and leave lay or call DNR and tell them to take care of their precious elk. Makes no sense.
DNR knows roughly how many elk the state has and roughly what they have for wolves. Yes, some areas need to be thinned down a little but going out running down with snowmobiles or pickup trucks is not the answer. Maybe good idea is get wolf tag go out kill one and then keep mouth shut, less people get irritated that way.

I think the world is overpopulated with turtles and cockatoos should we remove all of them as well and what they good for?? Just saying
Hummingbirds what they good for, they destroy all the pretty flowers should remove them as well.

I remembered DAA bitching about mules and wild horses. Tracking up the land and eating everything. depends what mule is used to but they also eat vegetation a cow wouldn't touch, keeps the weeds down. But what really bothered him about them was areas was closed down to off road travel because it also damaged the land. Don't believe me then google maps for his area and look at areal views of the land, fucken two tracks everywhere.
Catalena Island filled with goats doing same thing, keeping the weeds down. What we need them for, and they are no good here so let's just wipe them out as well. LOL
We were given rights long ago in someplace on this earth and animals have been given rights just as well, all was created by GOD.
Jack killed Barbie, he has no rights, barbie was a whore and liar, she has no rights far as I'm concerned.

Hitler was a human being do we kill him because we didn't agree with what he was doing? He had rights as well. Just saying........

Years ago we did highway project between two lakes that have some rare turtles. We had to put out bio logs to stop turtles from crossing the road and then every few hours someone had to take shovel and scoop one up and take it to other side of the road. Did that make sense, just run them over and let them die out, what good are they? No! They have a right to exist it just no one bothered to write it up in the constitution which is what gives us our rights. But if you look at many games laws and such wildlife does have a right and this was decided way before Peta or any other group existed. This right was given to them by true sportsman and hunters. Peta just stepped in to help it along as many forgot and say this or that is enough. Problem is they went way overboard or went to far.


You buy a hunting license its a privilege not a right and no promise you can hunt till you fill a tag.

[ January 20, 2026, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

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Icon 1 posted January 21, 2026 07:28 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Uh ................ No.

Kill all of the wolves. No. Good idea, but no.
When the wolf introduction was first proposed the tree huggers stated a capacity number, after which management would be turned over to the respective State Game & Fish Depts.
Those capacity numbers were reached and exceeded, but in every instance when a season was proposed the tree huggers tied it up in court and in most cases prevented the season.

So ........... let's say we kill all of the wolves. Elk numbers increase. Hunters take more elk. Let's further posit that the elk numbers increase even more.
Some of the ranchers that use their strip of deeded land to post and deny access to public land might reconsider.
States might lower out of state license fees and compete for non-resident dollars.
Draw Units might go to Over-The-Counter.
Season lengths might be extended.

[Eek!] I'm not seeing a downside, here. [Eek!]

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Icon 1 posted January 21, 2026 09:15 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
How many elk can you put in a freezer to eat??

As for putting a season on them or thinning the herd you can blame that not happening because one guy took it to himself to run one down with snowmobile, that's what changed that idea, not my fault or yours.

The Non-res. lic. will never go down it's their money that helps the other states wildlife because they can't do it on their own cause there over counter tags are too cheap for Residents. Non-res. has always footed the bill. Just look at tag sales from some of those states.
S.D makes a killing on having non-res. come hunt their state for pheasants. fill your cooler up and get hell out.

Also like I said if I could find those mag. I'd send them to you, that's how it was back in those days too many elk and not enough removed and ranchers crying about that as well.
I don't know maybe do google on Elk numbers back in the day which be what late 70's or early 80's. The proof is all there you can't stockpile wildlife it don't work like that.
Some ranchers set in their ways as well some let others hunt and some won't. then add the outfitters that tie up some of the good ranches either you pay to play or you don't and many will choose not to so then what they going to do with all those elk.??

here in my state the resident's foot most of the bill weather its hunters or fishermen or trappers, we pay to have our wildlife and don't depend on revenue from Non-residents. Our Coyote lic. are even free to non-res.. we even pay for the non-wildlife as well. you know song birds, swans, eagles and so on.

Im just saying, no one has to agree with me on anything. just practicing little of free speech..

[ January 21, 2026, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

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Icon 6 posted January 21, 2026 07:47 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
….good to know!

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Icon 1 posted January 22, 2026 04:00 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
News for today Idaho game and fish is scheduled to remove 109 elk from a agg area due to crop damage on local farms in one area. Ranchers/farmers claim they not getting enough money for damages, so they want the elk removed. This is a non-wolf area by the way..

I knew shit like this would happen.. LOL

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2026 10:03 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
what are you saying? Ranchers ultimately get what they want, no matter what, all the time? They have bogus claims? So Fish and Game will shoot a hundred elk; and leave them lay because the ranchers aren’t being paid enough for damages?

Something doesn’t ring true in that little news item, Timmy. My always fall back position is that ranchers/farmers always get things their way if they whine enough, or long enough, no matter the validity of their complaints. Keep those land owners happy!

No matter the issue, no matter the truth, with enough complaining, even wrong solutions will be satisfied.

ExcEpt non resident hunters. They can be counted on to pay whatever the state needs to fund their projects, and have zero input as to conditions and seasons that affect them, as they are the last to be consulted and satisfied. <sigh>

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted January 23, 2026 03:08 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
They just said they will be removed. Didn't say if DNR going to do it or hunters or whoever.
They could be captured and moved or just shot and meat donated to food shelf, anyway not sure.
Looks like a repeat of what happen in late 70's early 80"s. From what I read they have plenty of elk in this area but surplus needs to be removed. It didn't happen over hunting season.

If cow elk they may have been bred and carrying 1-2 calves which would double or triple number being removed you could say. But anyway, this is just small model of what can happen if hunters don't do their part.

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