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Topic: A little dink & his opinion + Victor shares a lion!
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Leonard
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posted July 08, 2023 03:15 PM
Who cares what he thinks? Answer: Liberals!
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[ July 10, 2023, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Kokopelli
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posted July 08, 2023 05:44 PM
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Kokopelli
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posted July 09, 2023 12:06 AM
Well ........... I'll agree with him that I need more target practice but other than that; the guy's an idiot.
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Leonard
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posted July 09, 2023 02:35 PM
Everybody needs "more" target practice....in theory.
Except Victor. He's the most qualified pistolero on these boards, but modest to a fault.
Anyway, as far as target practice, you know, shooting groups and such. You must understand that on a certain level, you must be anal in acquiring your equipment and in processing your premium ammunition, if we are talking centerfire rifle accuracy. Rimfire requires that you purchase super premium ammunition like Eley and Lapua. Then you can work on your technique.
Handgun accuracy is probably better described as an art. Some got it and some don't. Still need practice. These guys burn a lot of powder and lead.
Whereas, with an accuracy rifle, you can buy 200 brass and an 8 pound jug and along with maybe a thousand bullets, that's enough to last the life of the barrel.
I moved up to hand dies a long time ago. I only size the necks just like a real match bench-rester. I have used the Wilson hand dies for at least 25 years and they will last another 50 years, if I don't drop them. Actually, I guess Redding makes dies and bushings just as good, and the bushings are interchangeable with Wilson. You can also turn the bushings upside down and change your neck tension by a cunt hair.
It's all about 5 shot groups. for live targets, I feel that 1/4" groups is as good as practical. Unless you are using the 220 Russian cases and a moderate load, as far as velocity goes, they can dial it in a little better but I'm operating in a faster neighborhood, 3800-4000fps with 65 grain bullets. I never messed with long bullets in .224" but I do use a hybred 105-108 in .224.
In my opinion, a coyote does not know the difference between a 22-250Ackley and a 243Winchester at reasonable distances. For me, that's a limit of about 400 yards, unless maybe the second animal has stopped for a look a little further. Besides that, you had better have the animal well marked, before you start banging away in flat cover and your angle could be slightly off and I feel that wandering around out there for an hour and maybe longer is better spent on another stand. Also, it helps a lot, if you actually heard the hit.
I remember shagging all over the place one night, yeah, I heard the hit and that's why I persevered, but the animal had just started to turn to the side as I touched it off. This was one event I never saw before. The coyote had about 15 feet of intestine snagged on a bush and I happened to see the damned bush wiggle and it was quite a ways off line so I never ventured over there. Really, had to feel sorry for the poor critter. Do not try this at home, Amigo!
Anyway, if you keep your shots within reasonable distances; you save a bunch of walking and bullets and the time for another stand down the road.
That's been kind of a quest for me, for many years. Run out of ammo; freaks me out, never done it.
Almost the same thing. One Saturday night, after a great morning and terrific early evening, me and Pat just quit. We figured we had the hunt in the bag so we just got some sleep until morning and time to make check in. I think we had something like 18 animals and we felt like victors! Those were the days!
Good hunting. El Bee
[ July 09, 2023, 02:39 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Az-Hunter
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posted July 09, 2023 10:52 PM
Here's a short on ammo story for you Leonard. Hauled ass after work one evening, and took a different route home over thru the old ghost town of Gleason. Went south, out of the hill country into the desert flats.
When I was getting out of my truck, I fished thru the pockets of the Navajo seat covers that were so popular then. Knew I always had lose ammo there. I fished thru half a dozen empty cases and found exactly one, 17 Ackley hornet round that was loaded, figured fuck it, one case one coyote.
Set up in small grassy opening, maybe 30 yards deep and 60 yards long. After a short three minutes, caught a flash of red fur running hell bent for the call,running thru the cat claw brush. Shifted my little TC carbine to aim right for the caller, with my head up waiting for the coyote to come into the picture. When the red fur running thru the cat claw broke into the opening, it turned into a mountain lion. Kept charging to the caller, I lip squeaked, it slid to a stop at the caller 18 yards from me,popped the shot tight behind the shoulder. It jumped what seemed like 6 feet in the air, hauled ass,made it maybe 6 long strides, and went end over end,grave yard dead.
I've called several lions since, one just last winter, all by happen stance down in low desert country calling for coyotes. Never had the urge to kill another one.
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Leonard
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posted July 10, 2023 08:52 AM
Good story! Thanks!
I've called a few lions, myself. They are always a surprise.
You never think;
"Wow, this looks (and feels) like mountain lion country!"
Your point is; Hey, we are hunkered down, here in the greasewood; pure coyote country if I ever saw it.
It's not that I've ever called more than 6 or maybe 8, at the most, but two of them were in scrub desert flats. And two, as I recall, were in actual mule deer country where you would expect a lion, now and then. No, that's not right, I never "expect" to see a lion. Especially when using coyote vocals. Forget it....but you never know?
I have called lions just about equally, Nevada and Arizona, except for one in Utah. OH, and just remembered: one in CA, calling right at the edge of a Marine Corps bombing range.
Anyway, I get your point. A lion. Standing broadside. At fifty feet. 17 caliber is adequate. In cool hands.
Good hunting. El Bee
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DanS
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posted July 14, 2023 02:42 PM
David Hogg, yeah that little cheese dick is world famous for his knowledge and expertise of firearms. (sarcasm)
He should just sip his Bud Light and wave his pride flag in his room in his moms basement waiting for her to bring him another hot pocket.
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