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Semp
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posted December 14, 2010 11:20 AM
Looks like I need to put my .17HMR back in the closet.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 14, 2010 11:46 AM
A 104 pound coyote. IF that's true & IF it's not a one of a kind circus freak type thing, that could have some interesting game management implications. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Lonny
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posted December 14, 2010 12:25 PM
I think some biologist got his "coyote" tissue and hair samples mixed up with something else. Maybe I'm wrong , but seriously a 3-year-old 100 plus lb coyote???
Could be that you guys who doubted ol'kirb about seeing(never killing)coyotes that are 3 wires high were wrong!
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Leonard
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posted December 14, 2010 12:45 PM
I'm not buying it, either. This DNA matching shit drives me absolutely nuts! I think it's all fake, and subject to much "interpretation", meaning that it is a matter of opinion. Yeah, the science of DNA is fabulous, but it don't work so good for determining oddball critters and where they belong toxononomically speaking.
Hmm? My spellchecker just told me I have invented another word, guaranteed to drive Dan, (the man) completely bonkers.
If you just look at it as a headline, who in the hell ever heard of a 104 pound coyote? Nobody, ever. What's that, three times normal? How about a 750 pound whitetail deer? Just shrug and say it's a big one, or are you going to consider some sort of hybred animal? Oh wait! Check the DNA. Science is always right. This is total BS.
Good hunting. LB
edit: Joe, you not only need a bigger caliber, it's not safe to let small children play outdoors with gigantic hungry coyotes in the neighborhood.
[ December 14, 2010, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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JoeF
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posted December 14, 2010 01:22 PM
LB, you've got one too many "no's" in that "knew" word!
Yeah, what a crock. If it truly is a coyote it is such an unusual aberration that it'll never be seen again in our lifetime. Kind of like the guy they buried in the piano case back in 18XX.
Times Beach or Love Canal type animal, maybe?
Upper 30's is a big Mo. coyote, to the best of my knowledge.
One shred of my innocence of youth that I'm hanging on to is that I have never weighed a coyote, never had even the slightest desire to weigh a coyote, and the only thing I ever even remember thinking about the weight of a coyote (before the internet tried to tell me otherwise) is that some of em are too damned heavy to carry very far.
'Course, if I killed one that looked like it weighed 100 lbs that could all change.
Wonder if there is any money in it?
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GC
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posted December 14, 2010 06:25 PM
I'm struggling with it too. It was independently tested by both the MDC and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service and both reached the same conclusion - wild coyote. But I just have to believe that is some sort of mix breed crossed up mutant coydog of some sort. I never weighed coyotes either until a couple years ago and I began taking a Berkly electronic fish scale with me. Most weighed in the mid-30's, a couple the low 40 lb. range. In all my time I called exactly ONE coyote that I thought might have gone near 50 pounds. I had it at 25 yards and was so caught up at looking it over the damned thing smelled where I walked out to place the e-caller/decoy and bugged out so fast and at such an angle I couldn't even get a shot off. But it was absolutely huge, I called it King Kong Coyote. It was in a class of its own - and maybe it would have gone 50-ish. But 100+ pounds? I'm having a hard time accepting that as pure coyote.
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Leonard
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posted December 14, 2010 08:03 PM
It looks like a Huskey around the face. How much do they weigh?
Good hunting. LB
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Briguy
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posted December 14, 2010 08:28 PM
Yea, that has some funky looking fur around the face and the ears look off. Does look a little like a Husky, but even they don't get that big. Usually 70 or so lbs...
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Krustyklimber
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posted December 14, 2010 08:29 PM
Leonard,
For Dan; Taxonomically, and husky. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 14, 2010 08:47 PM
Someone call Kirby the hole huffer and tell him his pet has been found..
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Leonard
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posted December 14, 2010 08:57 PM
Dan's not going to be happy, you horning in on his turf, k.
The question is, why didn't my spellchecker figure out that I accidentally typed an extra "o" and an extra "n"? And, me too lazy to dispute it. Fuck it attitude.
Good hunting. LB
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knockemdown
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posted December 15, 2010 07:48 AM
Maybe that poor coyote suffered from a rare form of canine Acromegaly?
Ya know, the metabolic disorder that the wrestler "Andre the Giant" suffered from?
For the record:
As far as DNA testing has supposedly progressed, I ain't puttin' much stock in that assessment...
Remember, WOLF is a 4 letter word!
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JoeF
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posted December 15, 2010 09:23 AM
Unlike a lot of conservation departments, and even more people, I have quite a bit of faith in the Mo. Department of Conservation.
They are a class act - and I'm sure that will draw some fire from some.
I'll say it again, I think that is one mutant mess of a coyote. I have never seen or heard of any disease in the animal kingdom that would cause a tripling of typical weight, but maybe they are out there. Perhaps the act of natural selection drops them out quickly, like at the teat.
I've seen this topic posted on a couple of other boards (slummin) and have seen people firing on the ears quite a bit. I have shot several old male coyotes with round puffy looking faces that make the ears look anything BUT like what we picture as typical coyote. Especially desert coyotes.
I wonder if animals are like humans in that their ears never stop growing?
I have pictures of two of the biggest I ever killed - and no, I did not even think of putting (question for Dan - how do you turn the word "putt" in to an action verb or whatever the refined would call it?) the things on a scale.
One is almost a mirror image of that one, markings, round looking ears, all except the color. And I'm sure it weighed significantly less than 1/2 of the one linked above.
The other one looks more like a coyote in the face and ear department, but kind of makes you think of a German Sheppard. And weighs less than 1/2 of the one above.
I took pic's of those two not because of their weight but because each represented other events
that I wanted to memorialize.
LB - I'm not sold on these spell checker things completely. I've run in to a few cases where they don't accept some correctly spelled words and I find myself backing out to Word - maybe. And I'm just a product of the Missouri public school system. And DIT.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 15, 2010 10:45 AM
As for the odd size, maybe the coyote was sterile. Same results you get when you casterate a bull calf...
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Bofire
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posted December 15, 2010 11:04 AM
My sons female Husky weighs an easy 100 lbs. that pic does not look like a coyote to me and I am not buying the story.
Carl
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Patterson
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posted December 15, 2010 11:29 AM
I wonder if its spirit came out of its chest and ran back over the hill...
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