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Prune Picker
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Icon 1 posted October 21, 2013 07:12 PM      Profile for Prune Picker   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
from: Salt Lake Tribune, 10/15/13 by Brett Prettyman

Results of 1st yr (7-1-12 to 6-30-13) from Utah's Division of Wildlife, were 7,160 Coyotes turned in @ 50.00$ ea. and 380,950.00$ was pd. out. Also reported an additional 45,000.00$ was pd. to 3 Contractors.

75% of all Coyotes were submitted in Feb.

67% of all Coyotes were shot.

Also reported that "only" 846 Coyotes were killed on summer deer ranges.

The article was in the Salt Lake Tribune Oct 15th edition.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 21, 2013 07:28 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Uh...................??????
7160 coyotes @ $50 per each, according to my Jethro Bodine math skills comes to $358,000.
If $380,950 was paid out, that means Lucy's got some 'splainin to do about the $22,950 difference.

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Prune Picker
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Icon 1 posted October 21, 2013 07:40 PM      Profile for Prune Picker   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Koko, I was reading from an iPhone and typing from memory. I don't cut and paste, (a family agreement). Please correct me when you see the need. I was wondering about the 45k number paid to contractors and total amount posted in the article. Thanks for the scolding, I will try harder in the future.

www.sltrib.com

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Randy Roede
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Icon 1 posted October 21, 2013 09:20 PM      Profile for Randy Roede   Email Randy Roede         Edit/Delete Post 
I had one of my producers tell me he had some Utah hunters here early this year that scalped some of the coyotes I had on a deadpile at his place and take back with them to Utah.

Not sure how that works?

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Icon 1 posted October 21, 2013 09:22 PM      Profile for 3 Toes           Edit/Delete Post 
Randy, sounds like it works just like every other bounty system ever tried!

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted October 22, 2013 12:33 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Mike;
No scolding. I just have a bad habit of checking the math when an Agency (usually Government) pulls numbers out of it's ass and presents them as The Truth.

Randy;
About 15 years ago Ore. tried a bounty on coyote scalps for one year. One year only, when the fur market was down.
But............for years afterwards, every roadkilled coyote you saw was missing it's ears. There must have been thousands of scalps in freezers waiting for the bounty program to start back up.

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Randy Roede
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Icon 1 posted October 22, 2013 08:58 PM      Profile for Randy Roede   Email Randy Roede         Edit/Delete Post 
It's like every few years people forget and try something again that failed before.

I guess it just sounded better this time.

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Icon 1 posted October 23, 2013 06:12 AM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
It's like every few years people forget and try something again that failed before.
LOL....these are symptoms of a neurological disease that is caused by spending other peoples money!!!!!!

Maintain

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Icon 1 posted October 23, 2013 10:50 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
You know....back in the day. Fur prices were on an uptick. Figure there were quite a few zealots here in Kalifornia and the nearest place where they had a bounty was Sweetwater County, Colorado. We used to make a few pilgrimages in that direction because they had a $7 bounty and they had raw fur buyers up there. So, by the time we got there we had CA, NV, UT, and CO coyotes and got bounties supposedly on Colorado coyotes paid for by the local woolgrowers association. What a plan. Very early 70's.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: working for a living and supporting a family, I had to take vacation time off to get to Rock Springs in less than two weeks. It was like work!

edit: when all said and done, hardly paid more than expenses....

[ October 23, 2013, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted October 23, 2013 12:49 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
A friend of a friend - literally, don't know his name, never actually spoke to him, let alone met him. Through our mutual aquaintence, has offered me $25 each for heads with the skin on them.

Now... Technically, I see nothing illegal here? I haven't talked to the guy. Don't even know who he is. Just know he's willing to give me $25 each for every lopped off coyote head I can send to him through our mutual aquaintence? I'll literally never talk to him, meet him, if I don't want to, never even know his first or last name. By no means has there been any discussion, at all, on any level about what he wants them for? Could be native American arts and crafts, for all I know?

By the same token, there hasn't been any discussion, at all, on any level, about where they might come from, or how I might aquire them?

Might I assume, the buyer simply isn't interested in that info?

- DAA

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Icon 1 posted October 23, 2013 01:28 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Your first guess sounds most likely, if still a bit strange? I sold mule deer antlers to a guy I worked with, for $50. He was from Shanghai. I also saved a deer penis for another chinese guy from Taiwan. All requested in advance, just casual coworkers. I'd have to speculate what he did with it but would probably not be far wrong? I hope he battered and deep fried it? lol

Good hunting. El Bee

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Bryan J
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Icon 1 posted October 29, 2013 11:35 AM      Profile for Bryan J   Email Bryan J         Edit/Delete Post 
It gets better. http://wildlife.utah.gov/component/content/article/161-hunting/1269-targeted-predator-application.html
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Icon 1 posted October 29, 2013 12:05 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know if that is better or not? $10,000 is a tempting amount of money and I don't see the controls in place to screen against fraud?

Furthermore, I fail to see where the program is justified, unless the goal is eliminating the coyote population of western Nevada. Am I being too cynical?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Bryan J
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Icon 1 posted October 29, 2013 12:55 PM      Profile for Bryan J   Email Bryan J         Edit/Delete Post 
We are pretty much on the same page Leonard.
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Icon 1 posted October 29, 2013 02:04 PM      Profile for ursus21           Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
It's like every few years people forget and try something again that failed before.

I guess it just sounded better this time.

That would explain how Obummer got re-elected.
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Icon 1 posted October 29, 2013 02:09 PM      Profile for ursus21           Edit/Delete Post 
Wow just read that contractor link. For the first time in my life I wish Montana was as stupid as Utah. That would be the easiest $10,000 I'd ever earn in my lifetime. Last year I killed around 40 coyotes and considered it a less than average year. It would be nice to get paid 10K for what I'm going to do anydangway.
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