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Topic: What would you give up?
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nd coyote killer
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posted January 04, 2011 10:51 PM
I'm going to be gone for a couple of weeks so i will let you guys hash this one out.
Recreational caller: If you had to give up ONE tool up to be banned what would it be and WHY, DAYTIME calling only. Your tools are as follows
Hand call
E-Caller
Rifle
Shotgun
Shooting Aid (shooting sticks or bi-pod)
Range Finder
This should be a wide range amongst guys that hunt different terrain.
The ADC guys your tools are as follow: ( you can answer both)
Traps
Snares
M-44's
Rifle
Airplane
Dogs
Scott touched on a topic awhile ago about picking the one tool you could use but what would be the one that you could lose and STILL KEEP YOUR JOB.
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Krustyklimber
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posted January 05, 2011 12:11 AM
Range finder; it's the one thing on the list I don't own now.
I'd hate to see them out and out banned though.
I don't really qualify as an ADC man, and I'm assuming you mean foothold traps, so I didn't have any of those tools at my disposal in my nuisance control work.
The one tool I that I really would've loved to have, isn't on your list, it's the Collarum.
Krusty 
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SD Howler
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posted January 05, 2011 04:46 AM
In terms of a recreational caller, I could still use my voice for calling with howls and lip squeaks, but banning the use of a rifle for my open country calling would surely have reduced the number of coyotes that I shot.
As a former ADC trapper, the M-44 (sodium cyanide device) would been one tool that would have been hard to lose.
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Paul Melching
Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate"
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posted January 05, 2011 05:26 AM
This is easy for me , the range finder would be the first to go .
I do own one for archery hunting though I have not used it much for that, as I wont take a shot over 45 yards any way and am Confident within that range and under.Now that you brougjt it up anybody want to buy a rangefinder.
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DAA
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posted January 05, 2011 09:01 AM
Never even considered using a range finder on a coyote stand. So that's the easy choice. But fully half the things on that list, I never use and wouldn't know the difference if they were gone.
- DAA
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UTcaller
NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER
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posted January 05, 2011 09:24 AM
Shotgun would be the first to go for me,most of my shots are 60-150 yards.
Good Hunting Chad
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Az-Hunter
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posted January 05, 2011 09:33 AM
All Ive ever used is a rifle,a call and a stool; and I suppose they will serve me well until I quit calling coyotes. I did forget to add a drag, which for me is a four foot piece of "muletape", made hauling them back to the truck, even with multiples much eaiser on my grip.
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Brad Norman
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posted January 05, 2011 09:47 AM
Definitely the range finder. While I do use one bowhunting, I have never even thought of taking one on a coyote hunt.
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TOM64
Knows what it's all about
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posted January 05, 2011 10:27 AM
A handcall and rifle are all I had for years.
I could easily give up the shotgun, the rangefinder, not so much.
For years I proudly stated that most of my shots averaged about 50 yards. After a bit more thinking on that, I came to realize I've been leaving a few coyotes to be educated cause I wouldn't shoot at them over 200 yards except on a few rare occasions.
I've discovered turrets and special reticles that need the range finder to make me more efficient. I'm still not TA of course and have increased my range to only 400 yards, which at the moment is the longest range I can make solid hits off sticks.
Maybe one day a 17 pred would increase my range but for now the 223 will have to do.
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csmithers
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posted January 05, 2011 10:44 AM
Give me the shotgun and the hand calls and good to go. All the other junk is just extra weight ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted January 05, 2011 10:58 AM
I could give up the range-finder and shotgun.. I don't use either one that much...
Tom I took one the other day at 425 yds. no range finder till after it was over.. Got a double today, one at 75 yds and the other at 300 yds.. Piece of cake..LOL
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Leonard
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posted January 05, 2011 11:04 AM
Well, he said ONE item, right? Since I hardly ever tote a rangefinder or binoculars, that would be an easy choice except that I don't use a shotgun much, and when I do, it's deliberate and I hunker down in a spot designed for "ground sluicing" as Vic likes to call it.
Something ND left out and something I have grown increasingly dependent on, is a stool of some sort and after a half dozen or so, I find that I am really fussy about stool specifics. In any case, I have so much trouble with my back that I can't sit on the ground very long and after a few stands, I'm either standing or kneeling. I'm not prone either, because I have a lot of trouble from a whiplash many years ago and cannot sustain my head in that position for very long.
When you get right down to it, everything I tote is important and I would be greatly handicapped if I had to leave any of them behind. Well, a drag rope is non essential, I can do four coyotes, unassisted, if I have to.
Good hunting. LB
edit: okay, three, for sure
[ January 05, 2011, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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4949shooter
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posted January 05, 2011 11:41 AM
As a recreational caller, I don't use shooting sticks or a bipod. At least right now, as it is all shotgunning for me.
That could change if I ever make it out west.
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Lone Howl
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posted January 05, 2011 11:45 AM
Rangefinder.
I know a lot of guys like to play sniper calling coyotes, but..sorry.
Mark
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted January 05, 2011 11:53 AM
Leonard. Have you tried laying on youre side with a little cushion for youre butt. I find this to be more comfortable than trying to sit up or laying prone. May not work when calling in the heavy stuff...
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knockemdown
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posted January 05, 2011 01:05 PM
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Leonard. Have you tried laying on youre side with a little cushion for youre butt. I find this to be more comfortable than trying to sit up or laying prone. May not work when calling in the heavy stuff...
Stand by, I'm getting a visual here...
OK, got it.
Warm Nevada stand: lite weight camo banana hammock
Close quarters: maybe a pistola then?
Laying on your side with cushion: CHECK!
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JoeF
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posted January 05, 2011 01:06 PM
Rangefinder.
I can sit with the best of them. It's the getting up and down that are an issue.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted January 05, 2011 01:17 PM
knockemdown; Looks like you need to loose a little weight, and a hair-cut would'nt hurt.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Lungbuster
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posted January 05, 2011 01:27 PM
I could do without the rangefinder.
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UTcaller
NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER
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posted January 05, 2011 02:10 PM
The reason I like to carry my range finder isn't to range a specific Coyote at long range,it's to range the landscape on the stand before I start to call.Some of the areas I call with large canyons or larger sage brush flats the terrain can play tricks on your distance judging.Even short range.So I'll take a second and range a few places to get a ballpark for distances.I was quite surprised at how far off I was sometimes at judging the distances.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted January 05, 2011 02:53 PM
Well, yes. As a matter of fact, that's what I had to do up north. I dug out the snow as best I could and tried several prone positions. I tried sideways leaning on the snowbank and a few times I positioned myself with a fencepost on my back. I can say this unequivocally, Canadians use better fenceposts than we do! No steel, no dead crooked branches. They use turned and treated ? Damn, he told me what it was and I forget?
Anyway, I was able to manage well enough just kneeling. Well, I stuck up a bit higher than the other guy, but I do not believe I was spotted by any critter?
Laying in sort of a "C" shape, I found it quite comfortable and leaning my shoulder against the snowbank, the visibility was very adequate.
I would never think of laying down prone, in desert country. Too many cactus spines laying around; they shed and seem to last forever. And then, there are those creepy crawlies, scorpions, snakes, Gila Monsters(rare), lots of ants that bite, centipedes the size of a cigar, Tarantulas and whatnot. Nope, I like to get off the ground a little bit.
Good hunting. LB
edit: I will say this. Bald guys with long hair, wearing only black thong underwear. Tthis may be real chick magnet stuff in New Yawk. Out here, they would call the POLICE, immediately. I know I would!
edit: your Nevada visual is in error. I have never seen a potential stand location where a pistol or a shotgun would come in handy. If Nevada is anything, it is long range. Whereas many people talk about their average shot being less than 100 yards; in Nevada it could be more like 250 yards. No shit.
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the bearhunter
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posted January 05, 2011 02:58 PM
range fider for because to have one thats reliable enough for coyotes cost to damn much.
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Okanagan
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posted January 05, 2011 03:27 PM
I'd give up the internet. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Next would be to give up the shooting sticks if I could do as I do now, which is pick up a stick when one may be needed.
I don't have a range finder but would like to have one, though wouldn't use it much for coyotes!
Ditto to Leonard on the stool. It is one of my most used items, and I have tried a dozen or more: some homemade, some modified, a few used and discarded as they were. Currently using a tri-legged stool modified to extend different length legs to fit uneven ground.
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Lonny
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posted January 05, 2011 03:52 PM
I would give up a shotgun. A rangefinder would normally be next, but it does come in handy every so often for the ones that hang up at long range.
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UTcaller
NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER
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posted January 05, 2011 03:55 PM
One thing I have been using alot the past few years that I KNOW has helped put more fur on the stretcher is a good pair or Binoculars.Especially in the Open Sage brush country I call in Northern Nevada.....
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