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Topic: THE ANCHOR BABY SCAM
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Frank
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posted August 20, 2015 07:03 PM
I think if lay Catholics knew what their leaders were doing to America they would rebel and demand they stop.
The anchor baby scam was invented 30 years ago by a liberal zealot, Justice William Brennan (Catholic), who slipped a footnote into a 1982 Supreme Court opinion announcing that the kids born to illegals on U.S. soil are citizens. The intent of the 14th Amendment had nothing to do with illegals having children in America. Brennan’s crayon scratchings on the Constitution are not part of our precious national inheritance.
In fact, Brennan is only one link in a long line of Catholic justices and politicians who have purposefully corrupted "original intent" of the
constitution as written by Protestants.
Like so many recent decisions (by what is now a Supreme court made up mostly of Catholics), these "invented" new meanings have worked to send America down the road to destruction.
Judge Richard Posner of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals is America’s most-cited federal judge – and, by the way, no friend to conservatives. In 2003, he wrote a concurrence simply to demand that Congress pass a law to stop automatically “awarding citizenship to everyone born in the United States.”
The purpose of the 14th Amendment, he said, was “to grant citizenship to the recently freed slaves,” adding that “Congress would not be flouting the Constitution” if it passed a law “to put an end to the nonsense.”
In case we forget, the immigration nightmare America now faces was brought to life by another set of Catholic politicians: The Kennedy family who worked tirelessly to pass the Immigration and nationality Act of 1965
WIKIPEDIA - Immigration and nationality Act of 1965
Just another “law” in a long line of Catholic leadership who have worked to fundamentally transform America into a third world country…….just like what is happening in Europe (but not in Catholic dominated South America or mexico).
Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:16
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Leonard
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posted August 21, 2015 06:47 AM
I think your supposition is a crock of shit, Frank.
I agree about the anchor baby bullshit but reject it as any concerted effort by Catholics to stack the citizenship deck with illegals.
I am Roman Catholic and this is the first I heard of this, so what is it, a big secret, a conspiracy? Doubtful.
Good hunting. El Bee
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DanS
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posted August 21, 2015 07:09 AM
I dunno either. I know some who claim to be Catholic and have had an abortion, some Baptist that drink alcohol, and others that don't always follow their churches doctrine.
Too many nowadays are too stupid, or should I say ignorant. Too many have been indoctrinated with liberal ideas.
The Roman Catholics and Gephart were a big factor in getting the huge population of Bosnians here in St. Louis, and other parts of MO.
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Leonard
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posted August 21, 2015 07:23 AM
Yes, and I know a member here, raised Morman, drinks hard liquor and smokes cigars, and so what? I'm not on board with the Church on birth control and neither is about half the female population. LB
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DanS
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posted August 21, 2015 12:23 PM
I have nothing against the Catholics LB, Hell My father was a Catholic and he even graduated from a Catholic University. He is the man I respect the most in my life.
Got nothing against the Mormons either. I worked on one of there places of worship in Nauvoo Il. Not the main temple, and read a little bit about Joseph Smith to boot. So what, who cares, right? BTW, I wasn't disagreeing with ya.
I'm just a regular Christian, and probably not a very good one, but I do try to be better.
But back to anchor babies, I believe they should all be sent back with their illegal alien parents or guardians to the guardians home land.
If a man robs a bank and buys a big house and has a lot of money then is caught, the family doesn't get to keep the money from the bank robbery. I think the same philosophy should apply.
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Leonard
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posted August 22, 2015 06:55 AM
It's perfectly okay to disagree with me.
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Aznative
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posted August 22, 2015 07:53 AM
I thought you were talking about me Leonard until you said smokes cigars.
I'm of the opinion that an anchor baby's right to citizenship is a liberal thing. It doesn't matter if the libretard is Catholic Jewish, Baptist or...., it is a liberal idea to change the USA into a socialist society. You will find both conservatives and liberals in every religion.
My very liberal sister married a German Air Force Pilot and spent most of her adult life in Switzerland. After her husband spent his five years in the German Luftwaffe he got a job with Swiss Air. I have two very liberal nieces that were born in Europe. One was born in Germany and raised in Switzerland. The other was born and raised in Switzerland. Neither one of them is eligible for a Swiss passport.
My point is if liberal Switzerland doesn't give citizenship to anchor babies why are we, and we should use this argument with liberals on this issue.
I saw on CNN where they were talking about how most of the Republican candidates where defending the use of the "racist" term Anchor Babies. What a crock of coyote dung. The liberals claim any word we use to describe any group they want to defend as racists to stop all discussion.
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posted August 22, 2015 10:01 AM
Ive been looking into the 14th Amendment issue for the last week or so, lots of information, easy to find. I have to scratch my head when so many talking heads and politicians, ,as well as judges, obviously have failed to look at the same easy to find information I have? It takes no particular "interpretation" or hand wringing to see EXACTLY what the Citizenship Clause means....this from Sen. Jacob Howard,the man who is the architect of the damned clause, as he addressed the senate in 1866, to explain it:
"The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons"
Reading that paragraph, from the man who penned the clause, addressing the body politics that's passed it, how in the hell is there any doubt that it has absolutely nothing to do with illegal aliens giving birth to children on our soil, and them gaining citizenship in the US?
It obviously doesn't require an amendment; it simply requires following the law, and it's intent.
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DanS
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posted August 22, 2015 12:26 PM
Reminds me of all the liberal socialist and GOP members like Ole John McCain that insist that the immigration system is broken and we need comprehensive immigration reform. All that is broken is law enforcement, so they want a brand new set of laws they won't enforce for the illegals. Oh yea, and of course amnesty for the illegals.
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Frank
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posted September 07, 2015 02:39 PM
My best friend in the whole world (still alive) is a Catholic (Robert Dowling). I even went to church with him one time in Pasadena when we heard Cardinal Roger Mahoney proclaim we should do all we can to help the illegals in this country.
I got nothing against lay Catholics like my best friend but I do hold a grudge with Catholic leadership who do not recognize the borders of any country.
It's not too hard to change the makeup of the American population by bringing in millions of Mexicans and South Americans (most of whom are Catholic) into the United States. That, in and of itself, would not be so bad except these people do not hold dear the founding principles of the United States.
In a recent poll, South Americans and Mexicans were asked how they feel about firearms in the hands of private individuals. The majority of them said that they would ban the possession of firearms. This is an example of an influx of people not familiar with the US who would do damage to our constitutional rights.
A country is a reflection of its people so that leads to the question of why Mexico is the way it is.... or why is the middle east is the way it is.
Well, it's simple really. Mexico is the way it is because it is full of Catholic Mexicans and the middle east is the way it is because it is full of muslims. If immigration to the US continues as it is we will one day be asked why is America the way it is. The answer will be because it is full of Mexicans, South Americans, and muslims. Cant be good for our freedoms.
The bottom line is if you want to preserve your freedoms and rights we have to be selective of who we let into this country. And that may mean calling Catholic leadership in this country to account.
Like I said, I got nothing against lay catholics....it's their leadership I have issues with. If I could talk with everyday Catholics I would say they need to stop giving money to the leadership who only work to remove you from your rights.
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Leonard
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posted September 07, 2015 05:20 PM
No problem with the above. Both.
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posted September 14, 2015 09:37 AM
Interesting stuff...I am a convert, having been a Lutheran for the first 21 years of my life. When I married my wife 32 years ago, I just switched because I rationalized that Martin Luther was just a pissed off Catholic... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
With all of that said, my wife is from a large, Catholic family. Her godson went to the seminary and was ordained a priest in '08. He was an excellent clergy, and I saw him bury both of his grandparents, (my wife's parents), and do the marriage ceremony for one of his cousins.
After he buried his grandfather, (wife's dad), in July, he made the decision to step away from the priesthood with all of the crap that is going on with the new pope and the diocese he was in. Time will tell if he returns.
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