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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on February 02, 2009, 07:54 AM:
Been working on the Jeep quite a bit lately, new suspension, ring and pinions and stuff, building it up to handle some bigger tires. Finally got the new shoes on it. 35x12.50x17 BFG KM2's. I think they are going to work pretty good on it.
Nothing but a smoking black hole where my wallet once was... This thing is "done" for the foreseeable future. It sure is a fun hunting rig though! Got me into a couple real good spots this season that my truck couldn't have.
- DAA
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on February 02, 2009, 08:32 AM:
Looks good.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on February 02, 2009, 05:28 PM:
No it dont Tim. Thats awful. Dave, you better just let me take her off your hands. LMAO
Just kiddin buddy. That is sharp. Way too sharp for a hunting rig.
Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 15, 2009, 11:56 PM:
Dammm! poor farmer...
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on February 17, 2009, 09:55 AM:
Dave, a week ago I would've thought this was a silly question, but, did you price those tires at Sams Club?
I shopped around a while and found that Sams was considerably cheaper on BFG's and Goodyears. I was torn on what to get... the 265*70*R17's didn't offer much in the way of all-terrain.
I looked at this BFG tread- similar to yours. $228 a tire.
Ended up buying the Goodyear Tripletred ($190) since I'm putting a lot of highway miles on and in/out of water.
Seems to be a great street tire so far and cleans out well in mud. Had em' in some tight spots last night with soupy cornfields. Mud and snow are about all I have to worry about- very few rocks/cactus/shale or gravel bars in Indiana. Anything self-cleaning with a little sidewall grip generally keeps my truck moving.
[ February 17, 2009, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Jrbhunter ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 17, 2009, 10:49 AM:
I run 285 70R 17s, factory tire BFG all terrain, second set now. Work well enough, I'm over the huge tires, they aren't very good in snow, I need to dig in. My Dodge has 33X15X16.5s, on a 12" wide wheel; (same five lug pattern as Jeep) not real good in deep snow without eighty pounds worth of chains, wire and snubbers.
Good hunting. LB
[ February 17, 2009, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on February 17, 2009, 12:01 PM:
Jason, I didn't price them at Sam's, but I did price them at Costco (we've got both here, Costco usually beats Sam's on tires). Also priced them online at tirerack.com and such. Then I took the best price I found (Costco) and went where I always go to buy tires, Discount Tire. They'll price match anyone, even the online outfits (they factor in shipping though). But they have a better road hazzard than most places, full replacement instead of just pro-rated, and they have replaced many tires for me that got shredded offroad, which a lot of places will tell you to pound sand on a deal like that. Guess you could say that I am a loyal and satisfied Discount Tire customer, LOL!
Don't think I've ever seen those Goodyear's you went with, they ought to be good though, it sounds like. That BFG AT/KO you showed, I've run those for years, worn out many sets of them. That's what is on the Wife's car now, in fact, same size you mentioned too, 265/70/17's.
- DAA
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on February 17, 2009, 01:56 PM:
When you guys compare tire prices are you also includeing the ply rateing in the tire??
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 17, 2009, 02:50 PM:
In cactus country, it's the sidewall two ply rating that causes trouble.
Dave, that's exactly what I did, priced them at Costco and bought them from Discount Tire where they matched Costco's price; $250 each. Road hazzard is $25 each, I think? But, I had a major rip last year and there weren't any stores where I was in Nevada? So, I drove home without a spare, which is a little scary.
Tim, these tires have a C rating, not the best, but they are quiet and give decent gas milage.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on February 17, 2009, 02:54 PM:
When i pick out my tires i go with the ones with the highest ply rateing for my F-150. A little rougher ride but less sidewall blow-outs...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 17, 2009, 02:56 PM:
Yeah right. Very astute about the ply rating of your tires, and then you mount them on a Ford? WTF?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on February 17, 2009, 07:53 PM:
Leonard when you were out to Scotts what brand of pick-ups did you see mostly.. Fords & Dodges. Not many places around where you can get the Jap. stuff fixed and those chevys just don't hold up like in the commercials.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on February 17, 2009, 09:05 PM:
Ford???
That explains alot of things...
I went with a full mud tire, Firestone destinations and have been very happy with them so far. I only got 35000 or so on my original tires and didn't see anything A/T that I liked plus these were only $185 each. 17" tires suck.
I just replaced 2 Firestone destinations on my shop truck because we didn't rotate them and they cupped out, had 54000 miles with lots of tread left.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on March 04, 2009, 12:25 PM:
I'm way late on this thread but I have to also comment on the customer service you get at Discount. I have never ever gotten quality service as excellent as Discount anywhere. And I just don't mean tires stores either. Very few companies have what it takes to KEEP repeat customers. I'm with Dave, I always buy from discount - free rotations, free tire fixes, I even got my Suburban tires fixed there that had come on the vehicle. I insisted on paying but the manager flat out refused because I was in the system. It happened another time at a completely different store I had never even been to before!
P.S. Dave, great looking shoes, I love the feel of new good tires, makes you feel like you can take a tight curve going 75 mph. LOL, but you know what I mean!
[ March 04, 2009, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Locohead ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 04, 2009, 02:14 PM:
Not only a tight curve at speed, but also mud...
Snow...
Rock...
Sand...
Hell... I even think new tires attract more two pointers, LOL!
What's not to love about new skins!
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 04, 2009, 02:39 PM:
Mud, snow, rock, rocks, sand and two pointers, all in less than a mile of driving? What's not to like, I'm heading to the Books!
Good huting. LB
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 05, 2009, 06:38 AM:
Books is pretty close Leonard. And all in one mile is not much of an exaggeration, either. Also in that same mile, that same day:
It's a nice mile, for sure.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 05, 2009, 11:43 AM:
Just a wild ass guess, Dave. I can't read your screen, no matter how hard I try?
Gotta ask you, (or anybody) have you ever camped at a place called Honeycomb Mountain ? Extreme west side, north of 50? Damn! It's almost like camping in a Cathedral, a little spooky, remote, beautiful, etc. Good spot, always wanted to go back.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 05, 2009, 12:09 PM:
Leonard, I believe I have been there. General location, description, sounds like a spot I'm thinking of between the Confusion range and the Fish Springs range out there. Really strange rhyolite formations, if it's where I'm thinking. I happen to remember the day of the year I was last there, because it was a Super Bowl Sunday, don't recall which year though ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
...
Actually, even if the spot I'm thinking of isn't the same one, I can pretty safely say that yes I've been there anyway. There really isn't anywhere north of 50 and south of I-80, between I-15 and the border that I haven't been. Literally, have been on every single semi-major dirt road in that whole area, most of them many, many times. And an awful lot of the not major ones too...
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 05, 2009, 01:07 PM:
Yeah, very close to Fish Springs, as I recall? Also close to a good size polygamist settlement; hey, they're everywhere though? Unusually high population of various raptors, too. Some of the shale roads to the north (correction, I meant WEST, towards NV) are murder on tires. I had two flats within an hour!
Good hunting. LB
[ March 05, 2009, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 05, 2009, 03:20 PM:
Yup, we're both thinking of the same spot!
- DAA
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on March 06, 2009, 06:01 AM:
Hey Dave,wondering what GPS system that is on the dash? Are you happy with it and what's a guy have to pay for it?
Gary
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on March 06, 2009, 06:11 AM:
Leonard, what tire pressure are you running when you are foraging off road in rock strewn terrain?
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 06, 2009, 07:20 AM:
Gary, that's a Garmin 276C. I really, really like it. But... I think it's probably discontinued by now. And for what I paid, you can probably get one that does a whole lot more these days. I think I spent about $500 on it.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2009, 09:01 AM:
Oh, I probably don't bother to alter my tire pressure, unless I'm in a pickle. But if I recognize the same type of rocks, (and I have) I'd just decide I don't need to go there. Normally a full 36psi.
Funny, I just bought a Garmin. It's a 260W and it was $169, 4.3" screen, also portable. I don't think you can beat Garmin?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on March 06, 2009, 06:45 PM:
Tires inflated at 36 psi, it's no wonder you flatted twice within an hours time.... Letting those babies down between 15-20 psi would allow the tires to flex and give way to those unforgiving rocks, not to mention the excellent traction an under inflated tire provides. I like to take 'em down to a least 25 psi when I running those "dirt high ways" Nevada has, just for smoothing out those damned wash boards. Yea, and I know it's a pain in the ass to let the air out and more so to take it easy on the pavement till you find a station with a compressor to pump them back up. Of course, I've got an answer for that too, and that's an on board air compressor. I've got one bolted on the wheel well under the hood of my truck.It takes me 10 minutes to inflate them. But I'll bet, you knew all that, ehh LB... That spew is just for the folks that wanted to know something.....
http://www.viaircorp.com/ This outfit also has portable units.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2009, 09:38 PM:
Yeah, knew that, just too lazy to deflate and reinflate because I do a fair amount of pavement driving on a hunt. I always carry a portable battery for jump starting and it has an air compressor. Other things I always have is a shovel and axe and tire cables and assorted tools, a few blankets, water, couple quarts of oil and a gallon of antifreeze. I suppose most people carry that stuff?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 07, 2009, 06:55 AM:
I normally air down the tires too. Anywhere from 10 psi to 23 psi, depending on the variables of terrain, speed, need for traction, how heavily loaded etc. The more heavily loaded and the faster I'll be going, the higher the pressure I run. For slow going in really tough stuff, I let almost all the air out of them. But even just bringing them down to 23 psi, does WONDERS for smoothing out the washboard, like Gary said. It's worth doing just for the relief on my spine - seriously.
The on board air system in my Jeep (you knew I'd have pictures, LOL!):
Two compressors, manifold, pressure switch, the works. All on a solenoid so all I have to do his flip a switch in the dash. Never even have to raise the hood. Air chucks built-in all around too, but the ones I usually use are the ones next to the door straps on both sides.
- DAA
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on March 07, 2009, 09:04 AM:
Very nice Dave! You definitely don't F**K around..
My set up is mere child's play in comparison! Reminds me of a Jeep club I used to run with. Those guys had everything from "air lockers" to hard piped welding machines installed on their rides.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on March 07, 2009, 04:35 PM:
How many sheep points do you have in that unit Dave? HOLY SMOKES that is a monster ram!!! He carries his mass all the way out to the ends. Super Wide, 3/4 - 7/8 curl (maybe?), wide open curls - a very old ram with heavy horns - I'd love to see that critter up close. I'd trade a few coyotes for the opportunity get those nice photos - great job!
[ March 07, 2009, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: Locohead ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 09, 2009, 03:48 PM:
No sheep points Danny. Partly because Utah's draw system is so totally screwed up and partly because I just suck...
Honestly though, I have pretty much abandoned any hope of ever drawing any tag. Ever. I've been putting in for premium deer or elk tags for as long as the draw/point system has existed in Utah. As far as that goes, I put in for all kinds of tags for a lot of years BEFORE the point system came into effect. Never drew anything. Ever.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 09, 2009, 04:11 PM:
Don't feel lonesome. The preference point system is a total fraud in almost every state. Must have been designed by Democrats? Hey, at least Utah leads the Nation in online porn access!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 09, 2009, 04:51 PM:
Must be the same social forces at work that made those Mormon girls so much fun when I was a teenager . Which would be the same social forces that cause Utah to have the highest teenage pregnancy rate as well .
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 09, 2009, 05:34 PM:
Umm? I'm guessing the most "fun" would have involved removing the magic underwear for about ten minutes, tops?
Good hunting. LB
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